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Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-02/sally-zou-tweets-image-of-cheque-to-sa-liberals/9504732

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Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


CrazyTolradi posted:

But how else can community sports clubs continue to thrive off the suffering and devastation imposed on families?

Whenever anyone claims that clubs will go broke without them the obvious retort is that addicts will go broke with them.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


The Adelaide fringe is making Adelaide feel really pumped right now and I am not at all looking forward to the Libs winning state government at the end of it. Gonna be the worst hangover ever.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


MysticalMachineGun posted:

Maybe I live in an echo chamber but I can't see Marshall getting voted for by anyone, ever. He's the political equivalent of a wet blanket.

100% agree but the fact I'm seeing such strong Labor support makes me convinced I'm definitely in the echo chamber.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


They should push those stories just as hard as the coalition did the insulation scheme deaths.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Chadzok posted:

done. minus marks for pointless repetition of 'generation you belong to' + 'year of birth'

There's probably interesting information to be mined there on how people self identify generation wise compared to what their by the books birth year generation would be.

Edit: oh, the generation question actually gets you to pick one based on year date. Yeah, minus marks and send her to the salt mines when the LNP inevitably mandate slavery for the dole.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


JBP posted:

I don't think that's idiotic. I don't share lived perspective or experience with women.

The best way I've heard it put and the approach I now have is that I won't presume to speak on behalf of feminists but I would hope the women I know would describe me as one.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006



Based on the trends there is a real chance that the 30 Newspolls milestone will also be met with Turnbull losing the preferred PM poll.

:getin:

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006



All I want from life is for there to be a leadership spill for the Libs shortly before the election and Abbott is the only one crazy enough to put his hand up, winning by default and leading to a election drubbing of hilarious scale.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


In theory if he wanted to go full scorched Earth and could gather a couple of supporters he could threaten to support a vote of no confidence in the government couldn't he?

That's fantasy world thinking though since he'd be immediately booted from the Nationals.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


JBP posted:

I'm loving all of the sad losers getting angry about the MFB deal. Unions are useless! They don't do anything! Unions are too powerful! Unions are controlling the government and get perks from Labor! I won't join my union I get the "benefits" anyway!

If you have that many people as part of one organisation it will have way too much power and immediately lead to them abusing their power!

*Quietly ignores the 210,000+ people employed by the Coles/Woolies duopoly*

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Birdstrike posted:

it’s not illegal you’re just not supposed to use work capital for personal enrichment, like most workplaces

There is the point that crypto-mining burns through as much power as possible so in many ways they weren't generating money so much as stealing it from the department through a convoluted power bill laundry scheme.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Solemn Sloth posted:

There are some legitimate parts of the right to farm argument, but some of it boils down to “I should be able to blight other people’s land without compensation or recourse”

Can see both sides of it.

On the one hand a major change in how a piece of farmland is being used should need planning permission and have its impact taken into account.

On the other hand use of farmland changing over time is a fact of farming, so it's silly to move next to a farm and then complain that it acts like a farm does.

Similar to people who move next door to airports because the land is cheap and then complain about the noise of planes when some extra flights start coming in.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


No but you can't stop just literally giving them money for nothing because it's unfair to change the rules on them.

*Overwhelmingly votes for conservative governments that want to after the fact increase the amount people are paying for their study debts*

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006



James took out a mortgage on a second house that now isn't available for an owner-occupier and is sad that the government won't subsidise that lifestyle choice.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


JBP posted:

Policy that stops people making do nothing "investments" that leverage the public's money to draw an income or reduce their own responsibility to contribute owns and there should be more of it.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


You Am I posted:

Dear South Australians,

Don't gently caress up today's state election like the Tasmanians did.

Thanks

Odds aren't looking good tbh but hoping to be proven wrong!

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


I'm expecting Liberals to have more seats than Labor and Marshall to go back on his statements about never dealing with them, and to form government with SA Best support.

This will happen a week from now after a prolonged "negotiation" much like that which led to the Gillard government.

Then again SA Labor managed to get the former Lib leader supporting their government last time, so who the gently caress knows (us, in a few hours, death is certain).

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


I was loving enjoying SA having some leadership on renewable stuff :(

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Mr Chips posted:

general question, did Marshall have any actual policies beyond "right turn from king william st onto north tce"

Increase penalties for marijuana possession and let Coles open later.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


trunkh posted:

Labour polices that were slightly worse basically and the typical bullshit 1 liners with no substance. 2 sides of the same as always.

Nah Labor had a ton of specific policies describing how they wanted to build the state.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


You Am I posted:

RIP Magic Mountain at Glenelg :smith:

Still too soon. Those loving apartment owners complaining about their views.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Konomex posted:

Just had a thought, is there anyone in the new SA Liberal government that has ever actually been in government before? Or is SA about to experience what happens when you're lead by total novices?

All new.

The one bright point is going to be watch Marshall try to negotiate stuff through the legislative council. On the issue of shopping hours deregulation he has already been talking about having a mandate so I expect a bit of a tantrum when the upper house doesn't support it.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Coq au Nandos posted:

Hopefully he gets a shot at a federal seat at some point.

Jay has also spoken out against offshore detention so Jay For PM imho.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Jonah Galtberg posted:

it's okay to acknowledge that israel is a racist ethnostate and that its ideology percolates quite strongly through the diaspora

like there's nothing inherent to that position about jews being like racially inclined towards racism or whatever it is you're saying

One of the many reasons to hate nazis (and that said there are many MANY bigger reasons) is that they've made it easier for Israel to get away with poo poo.

Israel does a lot of bad stuff, but also does many things better than it's neighbours. The people who are loudest against them make it hard to publically oppose Israel because anti-semitism is totally a thing.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Marshall has put out info on his governments first actions. These ones stand out:

quote:

Initiate full conditions assessment of Housing SA properties to support strategic asset management plan

Sounds like politician speak for "figuring out how much we can sell off".

quote:

Prepare and introduce legislation to implement the war on drugs program

Oh good, Nixon era policy for the SA of the 21st century.

quote:

Together we will make South Australia strong and respected again.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Dimebag posted:

Oh look forward to sniffer dogs everywhere just like here in NSW. That's seems to be the LNP war on drugs policy, spend a shitload for very little positive effect. Unless that effect is funneling money to their donors.

During the Fringe the police had sniffer dogs down near the Garden of Unearthly Delights which is as close to shooting fish in a barrel as you can get. Look forward to them being all around all the time.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/they-re-dead-to-me-peter-dutton-lashes-out-at-media-critics-over-white-farmers-20180322-p4z5m6.html

quote:

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has lashed out at his critics in the media, declaring the ABC and The Guardian are "dead to me" over their reporting of his views on South African refugees.
Mr Dutton stoked controversy by arguing for "special attention" in Australia's refugee program for white South African farmers, reportedly being persecuted and murdered at the rate of one a week.
He said they needed help from a "civilised country" like Australia, prompting outrage from the South African government, which demanded he retract and summoned Australia's High Commissioner for urgent talks.
There was apparent division within the Turnbull government too, as Foreign Minister Julie Bishop talked down the idea of a special program for white South African farmers.
But Mr Dutton on Thursday said there was no conflict between himself and Ms Bishop, arguing it was actually confected outrage by "crazy lefties" at media outlets who were peddling "fake news".
"The ABC and others report these things how they want to report them and how they want to interpret them," he told 2GB radio.
"There's lots of outrage. Some of the crazy lefties at the ABC and on The Guardian, Huffington Post, express concern and draw mean cartoons about me and all the rest of it."
"They don't realise how completely dead they are to me. So we just get on with making decisions that we need to."

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


starkebn posted:

If the LNP cuts the company tax rate by 5% won't that mean are battling pensioners get 5% less :siren: franking credits :siren:

If the tax rate is going from 30% to 25% doesn't that mean a 16.7% drop in the rate and therefore a 16.7% drop in the franking credits?

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006



Can't wait to see the response from Cory. Wonder if the Australian Conservatives as a brand will even last out his entire senate term.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Haha, Bernardi having a mini-meltdown on Twitter this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978078964265529344
https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978098637308772352
https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978099323274649601
https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978099574412750848
https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978099949345767424
https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978100148197732352
https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978100342792404992
https://twitter.com/AuConservatives/status/978101214700191744

Not sorry for the wall of tweets, they're more delicious as a group.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


hooman posted:

Here we are folks, John Howard is better than the current LNP.

John. Howard.

To be fair, the LNP booted Abbott as leader.

That said, I expect this will be party policy within a month.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


hooman posted:

Does anyone else find it super depressing that everyone is issued with talking points in order to be on message.

Taking a step back from that being expected and the norm, it's totally loving bonkers right?

It is, but the instant someone gives an answer to a question which clashes with party policy it can get a lot of media attention.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


The ABC is apparently now serving up outright porn.

http://abc.net.au/news/2018-03-28/bernardi-feels-whiteanted-by-former-conservative-colleagues/9598048?pfmredir=sm

quote:

Australian Conservatives federal leader Cory Bernardi has lashed out at his former South Australian colleagues, accusing them of white-anting his start-up party from within by considering joining the Liberal Party.

The party's South Australian leader, Dennis Hood, announced on Monday he was quitting to join Premier Steven Marshall's newly-elected Liberal government.

It was later revealed that Mr Hood had been encouraged to consider the move by his Conservatives colleague Robert Brokenshire, who was up for re-election at this month's poll.

With the count of Legislative Council votes yet to be finalised, Mr Brokenshire, a former Liberal minister, appears unlikely to be returned.

On Monday, Mr Bernardi expressed disappointment at Mr Hood's departure but said he bore his former colleague no ill will.

However the Senator has now told Sky News that the defection has left him feeling dejected and that he suspects it had been under active consideration prior to the election.

"My wife said to me during the state election campaign, 'who are these people working for, the Australian Conservatives or the Liberal Party?'" he said.

Mr Hood has denied discussing any move with the Liberal Party until the week after the election.

But Senator Bernardi expressed doubts over his former colleague's claims.

"There's been reports that the state Liberal President told senior Liberals that it was likely the Australian Conservatives would be joining them after the election," he said.

"It feels like I've been white-anted from within."

Dennis Hood and Robert Brokenshire are both former members of Family First. Both joined Australian Conservatives last year, when the two conservative parties united in a merger.

Mr Bernardi did not name Mr Hood or Mr Brokenshire directly, but expressed disappointment at his state team.

"I invested a lot in the two people running the campaign and my team, the Australian Conservatives team, worked overtime. We put money into it and we did our very best," he said.

"But as I said, some things have come to light, including preference deals, including candidates.

"We agreed to have 10 candidates, then they asked for 20, I agreed to that and then they announced 33.

"And some of those candidates, apparently, I've since been told were given to us by the Liberal Party.

"And clearly I put too much faith and trust in others and that won't happen again."

Mr Brokenshire rejected those claims.

"It's unfortunate comment," he said.

"There were no discussions before the election. It was as simple as that."

Dennis Hood has also denied any suggestion that discussions were under way prior to the election.

"There is no truth whatsoever to the suggestion," he said.

"Utterly false and without basis."

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Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Dude McAwesome posted:

dear auspol, my dad died today in a car accident and I would like to hear your coping strategies because mine at this point is “drink a lot of beers and cry heaps”

gently caress, sorry. :(

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