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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Steve2911 posted:

I want Craig's replacement to be the full on MRA, right wing oval office that he actually is.

Connery is too old to reprise the role.

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Mantis42 posted:

The actual worst Moore movie is For Your Eyes Only, because it tries to not to be a Moore film. Its way too serious! It would have been great for Dalton, however.

This for real.

Something with the Moore movies though always feels so dated to me. Not because I was born after most of them were made but because, like, Our Man Flint and In Like Flint cover so much campy Moore movie caliber territory and did it like six years before Moore even took the role. It's like if that new Halloween movie they're making was intentionally modeled after Scary Movie.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

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Schneider Heim posted:

What movie had the Toyota 2000GT? That bit has quite fascinated me as it seemed to have changed the minds of people around the world with regards to the Japanese automobile industry at the time.

You Only Live Twice.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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It's again still crazy to me that a solo Black Widow movie hasn't happened.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Once Craig is done they should cast Eva Green as Jane Bond.

CelticPredator posted:

Especially Sin City 2. My god how did that even get to theaters? How???

I caught this on Netflix a while ago and seriously could not believe how bad it was. Even in ways you wouldn't expect, like Sin City came out in 2005 but the sequel looks ten times worse. It looks so cheap and bland next to the original.

One of the new stories, the one with the gambler that turns out to be Rourke's long lost son, has this brief beautiful moment where he gets punched out, and it segues his body falling over into the spinning chrome of a hubcap as his voice over slowly fades in and it zooms out to show the car he's being driven away in. It's so good that I'm confidant Frank Miller was out sick that day.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Basebf555 posted:

I agree that the actual plot surrounding that final set piece is too convoluted. Especially because the movie up to that point had been pretty streamlined and simple, in a good way. I think maybe the whole Vesper betrayal thing and then her death would've worked better as the first third of Quantum of Solace.

I love Casino Royale but I do agree with the sentiment others have expressed that it ending on a high note and then Quantum of Solace opening with Vesper's betrayal and everything from that act on would have been better. I mean, at least better than the Quantum of Solace we got, it would be interesting to see how it would have been if it wasn't effected by the writer's strike/etc.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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CelticPredator posted:

I loathe Diamonds Are Forever. It’s so bad and obnoxious.

The part where Bond accidentally ruins a fake moon landing shoot (???) and the guys in the astronaut outfits try to chase after him briefly but keep in character and so in a slow floaty way like they're in space is awesome.

But yeah overall that movie sucks. I love how like Bond's mission is to help this diamond company stop its employees from smuggling out like two or three diamonds here or there and that's it and the entire satellite/Blofeld's alive/etc. stuff is just sort of stumbled into from that.

I used to watch it all the time because it would be on TBS like twice a week. James Bond movies were to TBS like The Beastmaster was to TNT and HBO (Hey, Beastmaster's On).

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Payndz posted:

The disturbing thing about DAF is that MI6 is basically sending Bond to act as a Pinkerton for De Beers. gently caress De Beers.

Apropos of astronauts, in a movie filled with craziness, possibly the most outrageous thing about Moonraker is that within about two minutes of the space station's radar jammer failing, the US launches a fully-prepped shuttle full of laser-toting Space Marines. That's a quick response!

Oh yeah that's what I mean, like MI6 is sending folks on secret missions to keep vestiges of The Empire alive and saving the world was just a side thing they ran into. Like if Blofeld wasn't still alive and masterminding it would they even give a poo poo?

Speaking of Moonraker, I've always been kind of impressed that like, In Like Flint came out in 1967 and apparently had enough of an impact that Moonraker is basically bigger budget but shittier remake of the second half of it and Octopussy is bigger budget but shittier remake of the first half. Like it's kind of impressive how behind the Moore era feels when they were basically taken the piss out of several years before Moore even became Bond.

I will agree with what's been posted on this or a previous Bond thread a lot though, there's a point in Moonraker that is almost kinda chilling around when you learn all the details about Drax's plan and stuff progresses to the point where like, oh yeah, that actually would work and destroy everyone on earth compared to satellite lasers and stuff.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Cacator posted:

Hugo Drax had some good ideas

I don't mean that he was right, just that his plan's stakes were a lot higher and ended up coming the closest to actually happening compared to a lot of other Bond flicks. So many of the villains across the movies are basically doomed the minute Bond/his pals knows where their base is.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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I mean yeah I'm sure the money was good, but did they really want him back by the time From A View to a Kill had happened? Talk about a last gasp movie.

AFoolAndHisMoney posted:

I've come to really hate FYEO if only because it could have been a fantastic movie with a darker and more morose tone but it has Roger Moore instead of Tim Dalton.

That movie is clearly meant for a darker Bond like Dalton. The opening scene should have been brutal and angry, Bond finally getting vengeance for his wife but instead with Moore it's comical and he's cracking jokes at the guy who ruined his last chance at real happiness and making jokes about him being bald.

:same:

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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DarkSol posted:

Wasn't Dalton in the running to play Bond back when Moore was first cast? I seem to recall hearing that Dalton thought he was too young for the role and took himself out of contention.

Brosnan was up to play him when Dalton took over too.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Basebf555 posted:

Yea I'd love to see them cast an age appropriate actor for the role and actually do a run of "early Bond" stories. Get somebody in the 25-30 range who can actually grow into the role instead of being too old after the first sequel.

Cillian Murphy was up for it at one point which would have probably owned, I like Craig though.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Wheat Loaf posted:

I just can't help but feel like Elba as Bond would be too similar to Craig. If I was going to fantasy-cast the first black British actor to play Bond, I would have said David Oyelowo, but I feel like he might be too old now.

Colin Salmon was up but he ended up just being a recurring character instead of moving up to be Bond when Brosnan was done. Holy poo poo that would have ruled.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Gatts posted:

Give it Time Travel, space, multiverse, elaborate sets, James Bond goes to deep space at request of the Queen to find an elixir of eternal youth and life so she can rule forever to gently caress with Charles...that aliens have but it’s a tesseract that has Bond go backwards and forwards in time to alternate Bond universes so we see him in the background of Dr. No killing shapeshifting Nazi aliens and preventing Sean Connery from dying. Bond finally bangs his way through alien women.

Universal as they put up way more money to win the bidding war: "WELCOME TO THE DARK BOND UNIVERSE!!!"

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Darko posted:

I like Living Daylights more than License to Kill, mainly because the John Barry score (his best, possibly) is better than the Michael Kamen score for License, and makes scenes feel more epic and impactful.

In fact, that's one reason why I can stand to watch Octopussy and A View to a Kill, where I wouldn't otherwise. I still can't watch Moonraker and Diamonds are Forever, though - those two actively annoy me.

Living Daylights and License to Kill both have some crazy stunts involving a plane too.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Basebf555 posted:

Except Adam West and everyone involved with the show knew what they were doing. Moore Bond tries to take itself seriously way too often and it hardly ever works.

I have to be frank, I still can't believe A View to a Kill was released. Total failure to work in every way on every level.

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Aces High posted:

I remember I read some of the later books and it seemed from the late 80s to now that the Bond authors wrote him as being close to "too old for this poo poo". Though thinking back on it that makes Raymond Benson a creepy fucker since Bond would always end up with a girl half his age or younger :gonk:

Even Specter was bordering with the take being wow look at this poster for a movie starring Daniel Craig about Take Your Daughter To Work Day.

But For Your Eyes Only was the most hilarious for that.

They should only cast an older guy again if they plan to go for like, two movies an actor or something. Make it like Dr. Who where the point is huh who will be Bond this time speculation happens more often and they can go more out there with their picks that way too. Gillian Anderson isn't getting any younger.

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