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Fart City posted:I don't buy into the whole "James Bond is a code name" theory, but my god, how awesome would it be to have the villain of a Bond flick be an actual James Bond. And I'm not talking Alec Trevelyn; I'm talking full-on real-deal James Bond as a bad guy fighting a newer, younger James Bond. Like, imagine if it was Lazenby or Dalton; the dudes who got shafted by circumstance and timing. pierce brosnan should have played "raoul silva" in skyfall
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peekaboo gangster posted:I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum, having loved it as a kid (first Bond movie in theaters!) - it just seems like a tasteless victory lap by the "west" over the Soviet Union. The main villain has a former Soviet commander and an ultra-feminist who literally uses her sexuality to kill as his underlings. His mode of transport is an old Soviet missile train. The ultimate plan is to rob London of all its money, and redistribute it to his masses. Even his base of operations is located in Cuba, further linking him to the idea of "the radical left." James Bond, on the other hand, is dismissed outright by his new (female) superior as a "dinosaur" and a "relic," but that's exactly what's needed to stop this new Marxist threat. There's even an entire action setpiece based around destroying Soviet statuary with their own tanks while Bond jauntily adjusts his tie and winks knowingly at the audience. It's been a few years since I've watched GoldenEye, so I might have to go back and re-evaluate it, but I just remember it leaving a bad taste in my mouth (and ears, good God almighty the soundtrack is trash). reminder that 006's motivation is the "betrayal" of his nazi collaborator cossack parents by repatriation to the soviet union
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Unmature posted:Casino Royale is the best Bond movie and it's not even close it's the second best if you put it and quantum together as one mega-movie
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Mar 7, 2018 10:07
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Who is the best Bond villain. Answers must begin with "Rosa" and end with "Klebb."
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Mar 9, 2018 07:06
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Basebf555 posted:Right movie but wrong villain old man. red grant is a close second.
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Mar 10, 2018 02:12
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Wheat Loaf posted:You know, I was sold on Idris Elba as Bond for a long time, but I think I've gone off him a bit lately because although he would be good, I feel like he'd be too similar to Craig (and partly because I'm a bit worn out on how he seems to be the only black British actor the Internet has ever heard of and fantasy cast him for everything). If you're going to have a black actor as James Bond, I think my first choice now would be David Oyelowo or Colin Salmon (though he might be too old). colin salmon would rule because everyone would be like "oh hey robinson, congrats on the new code name"
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Mar 13, 2018 04:37
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Cacator posted:Alternate Bond title songs can be a fun rabbit hole to go down as a lot of the time they come off as completely inappropriate (Johnny Cash? Alice Cooper? Ace of Base!) with the notable exception of Spectre which is far superior to the one they ended up using. people insist the kd lang tomorrow never dies theme is superior but i like the sheryl crow song more
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Mar 14, 2018 15:06
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best brosnan song by a mile is, of course, the world is not enough
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Mar 14, 2018 15:15
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atomic blonde was a real bummer. just when you thought she was working for the good guys it turns out she was american all along
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Mar 15, 2018 08:55
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finally watched spectre after missing it in the theater and: lmao
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Mar 15, 2018 18:39
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all the dumbass lines previously pointed out itt didn't disappoint but shoehorning blofeld onto the plot of every other craig movie is loving insane
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Mar 15, 2018 18:41
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it also really didn't make sense to throw silva in with dominic greene and le chiffre, when silva was clearly operating on his own as a revenge mission against m throughout skyfall. at least in casino royale and quantum you could buy there being a larger plan, because the plot infrastructure for an organization was already there
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Mar 16, 2018 00:47
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to be honest the stepbrother stuff didn't bother me as much as the "it was all me, 007!" bit did, though (and i'm loath to say it) the brothers angle could have been helped with more elaboration throughout the movie or even a flashback the ending also ruined swann as a character, and i'd expected the big plan at the end to be that blofeld lied and she wasn't even in the building, forcing bond to give up looking and think he'd left her to die but no, standard villain poo poo. and then bond takes out a helicopter with a handgun
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Mar 16, 2018 00:51
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Baron Porkface posted:The problem is this has been the commentary of every bond film since at least Goldeneye. With no payoff. casino royale and quantum did their own thing and were the last really strong bond movies because of it
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Mar 22, 2018 10:35
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:that tank chase in Goldeneye is a strong contender for coolest thing ever brass loving balls to do that scene not two years after the white house was shelled, with tanks
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Mar 28, 2018 01:00
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james bond doesn't enjoy loving, at least not all iterations of the character. many of the actors played the seductions as perfunctory, just another part of the job
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Mar 29, 2018 07:28
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Why isn't Natalya telling Bond about Ouromov if she was willing to give him Boris? watched it again last night. she tells the defense minister like two minutes later, obviously she thinks she can't trust a british spy (correct)
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Mar 29, 2018 22:53
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i forgot they implied trevelyan was working with the cuban government also, lol. they had to make the Russian Bad Guys traitors so it'd fly post-cold war but the cubans? fair game
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Mar 30, 2018 04:15
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Huh? Doesn't it imply the opposite, with how Natalya checks a bunch of capitalist governments (including Britain) expecting it's just as likely for him to be there as Cuba? And how Wade offers all that support that could cause an international incident if Cuba and Trevelyan are working together? And how Trevelyan doesn't have any Cuban liaisons or Cuban-speaking mercenaries? the spike starts tracking geographically from st. petersburg moving west and it's an automatic process wade's operating out of guantanamo and has that "i am not here" bit to maintain plausible deniability the goons in the island dish facility are clearly coded caribbean, it isn't a huge stretch also they speak spanish in cuba
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Apr 1, 2018 10:28
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why are you liveposting a movie.
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Apr 4, 2018 05:12
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le chiffre's death is simultaneously one of the most matter-of-fact and satisfying bond villain demises mr. white deserved better than the one he got
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Apr 4, 2018 07:18
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Steve Yun posted:She's the best Bond girl, in the best Bond movie. wai lin and from russia with love, imo willing to hear arguments in favor of teresa di vincenzo and melina havelock though
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Apr 4, 2018 07:46
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quantum of solace is good, especially when you watch it right after casino royale i don't really consider them separate movies
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Apr 5, 2018 13:52
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it definitely does
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Apr 5, 2018 14:08
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dr no and from russia with love should be in everyone's top five imo. goldfinger is bad
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May 20, 2018 09:57
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Vagabundo posted:Importance and influence is not an indicator of quality, and there's no way you can argue Goldfinger didn't influence and shape the remainder of the Bond series. yes, but: i don't care
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May 22, 2018 02:03
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right, but i just don't care about whether or not a movie in a series "set the tone" or "influenced the franchise" if the tone-setting stuff doesn't make the movie good. goldfinger created a formula but did so in a very inert way. avengers 2012 "set the tone" for the rest of the mcu but it still sucks rear end. i'd come up with a better non-comic book example but most other series i can think of set the tone or formula with the first movie.
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May 22, 2018 03:29
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ok.
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Darko posted:Watch Catch Me if You Can. seen it twice. dunno how that's relevant to the post you quoted though
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May 23, 2018 07:27
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Darko posted:Because it's relevant to how that movie shaped culture at the time. It was ridiculous in actually creating a prime alpha male that every dude wanted to be that other movies just didn't do at the time. And most of that is due to the streamlined, perfected formula that resonated with a generation.That *should* be somewhat interesting on its own. i was talking specifically about films within a series. the question of genre or broader cultural influence is a different one entirely now that i think about it most horror series don't develop an established formula until a few movies in, so there would be other examples there and did you mean catch me if you can 2002, or a different one? because i don't think of frank abagnale as an "alpha male" (dubious term) at all
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May 23, 2018 07:39
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Vagabundo posted:Quick, name all the Bonds that could have been but never were, that have now been lost to the sands of time. cary grant, lord lucan and tom jones are my favorites
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May 23, 2018 09:28
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lelandjs posted:Oy govnnah oi think u've missed tha joke! cheadle's in ocean's 11 is worse imo
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May 24, 2018 12:18
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elba oyelowo and ejiofor are all too old now, sadly
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Fish of hemp posted:I'd like if Pierce Brosnan played a Bond villain. brosnan should have played the villain in skyfall.
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