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Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




RoboChrist 9000 posted:

It's something I've noticed you see a lot with the internet and right wing subcultures, but basically atheists and secularists keep reinventing apocalyptic Christianity just with less overt religious elements. The Apes and QAnon are just messianic doomsday cults, just as the Singularity was before it.

Apocalyptic thought is incredibly flexible. Here’s how it works:

1. poo poo is hosed.
2. hosed poo poo will end (always eventually true)

It’s not right wing especially. There’s an awful lot of left wing apocalyptic thought these days. They know something is wrong in their lives. All the different specific stories, all those constructed fictions… doesn’t change that that something is wrong for them.

So it doesn’t matter that each story never happens, or that the date keeps changing. They still know poo poo is hosed for them. They’re still at 1)

They’ll keep going round until they decide poo poo isn’t hosed. Or they push “eventually” from a specific time and place to the end of time and also immanence. (But that’s also deciding poo poo is not hosed.)

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Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic
Well folks, somehow, its about to get even stupider:

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
elon musk does a lot of harm to the world but sometimes that harm is funny, so it's impossible to tell whether he's good or bad

Caros
May 14, 2008

Blue Moonlight posted:

Well folks, somehow, its about to get even stupider:



I'm not antisemitic. I went to Israel and sucked bibi's dick for a few hours.

Now watch me argue with George soros's son, by propping up a right wing nutjob, then talk about how pizza gate is real.

If someone links him the protocols of the elders of Zion us political discourse is going to get wild.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Caros posted:

When someone links him the protocols of the elders of Zion us political discourse is going to get wild.

Caros
May 14, 2008

I do not like how right you are.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
He's just so uniquely bad at dogwhistling, it's kind of astonishing. Like you can tell he really likes projecting the image of the Cool Mysterious Centrist who just Tells It Like It Is but then tweets "Hmm. Interesting!" over a picture of The Turner Diaries. Like he's really blowing the cryptofascist exam and will have to retake the class next semester.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Caros posted:

I do not like how right you are.

Me neither :(

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

He's just so uniquely bad at dogwhistling, it's kind of astonishing. Like you can tell he really likes projecting the image of the Cool Mysterious Centrist who just Tells It Like It Is but then tweets "Hmm. Interesting!" over a picture of The Turner Diaries. Like he's really blowing the cryptofascist exam and will have to retake the class next semester.

He's desperately trying to play the "just asking questions" mask for bad-faith contrarians, not knowing/understanding that was well stale at least twenty years ago. It's like his brain is permanently locked into late 90's mode, and can't comprehend that the internet has (in places, sorta) grown and moved on.

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


what the hell is he talking about

I thought the proof that there wasn't a sex dungeon under that specific pizza shop was... that there isn't a sex dungeon underneath that pizza shop

why do we need expert testimony

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Moreover the "expert" was one guy who wrote one part of one book about how Pizzagate was a stupid conspiracy, and the guy arrested for possession of CSAM is a different guy with the same name.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Xand_Man posted:

what the hell is he talking about

I thought the proof that there wasn't a sex dungeon under that specific pizza shop was... that there isn't a sex dungeon underneath that pizza shop

why do we need expert testimony

Have you considered that (((they))) moved the basement in order to hide the evidence of their perfidious crimes?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Blue Moonlight posted:

Well folks, somehow, its about to get even stupider:



Uh shouldn't the characters be switched if we're supposed to agree with the one insisting pizza gate is real.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

Tesseraction posted:

Moreover the "expert" was one guy who wrote one part of one book about how Pizzagate was a stupid conspiracy, and the guy arrested for possession of CSAM is a different guy with the same name.

For real?

:psyduck:

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
meanwhile republicans are piling in to see "the sound of freedom" with the duggar clan.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




VitalSigns posted:

Uh shouldn't the characters be switched if we're supposed to agree with the one insisting pizza gate is real.

No that’s the scene where he’s telling her he banged her mum and she’s in denial

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Me neither :(

He's desperately trying to play the "just asking questions" mask for bad-faith contrarians, not knowing/understanding that was well stale at least twenty years ago. It's like his brain is permanently locked into late 90's mode, and can't comprehend that the internet has (in places, sorta) grown and moved on.

What it really comes down to is a profound absence of positive feedback from anywhere else. No one thinks he's Iron Man anymore but any time he posts nazi poo poo he gets lovebombed by people just as desperate for someone famous to agree with them

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
Maybe we shouldn't have made fun of his cybertruck so much you guys

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Maybe we shouldn't have made fun of his cybertruck so much you guys

Both objectively and subjectively wrong in every way.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary
Nah we really shoulda let him kill those trapped teenagers with his submarine. That's when pop-culture really started to sour on him

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Maybe we should have made fun of his cybertruck even more you guys

Zoeb
Oct 8, 2023
This person they got for child porn, who I have never even heard of, wouldn't have even needed to debunk pizzagate. Pizzagate was debunked by reality. Pizzagate was absurd on its face. The restaurant didn't even have a basement. The claim's source was insane troll logic pulled from thin air.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



dom lucre, banned from Twitter for posting child pornography with his own damned water mark imposed on it, before being unbanned, personally, by elon musk, is still there. as is richard hanania, the guy followed by elon musk on twitter who argues for the morality of the rich the be able to buy children for sex, so maybe musks just mad he hasn't gotten an invite

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Xakura posted:

For real?

:psyduck:

Yep, the other James Meek is a London Review of Books op-ed writer and novelist who also did a debunk of conspiracy theories https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/james-meek

Notably not in jail.

031124_2
Mar 12, 2024

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.




Ten dollars well spent.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Xiahou Dun posted:

Ten dollars well spent.

Still better than anyone who spent any money on qanon

031724_3
Mar 17, 2024
Generation Q

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
I wonder if Qanons feel stupid now. The wave’s gone and nothing happened.

TremorX
Jan 19, 2001

All Hail Big Hairy Mike

Vahakyla posted:

I wonder if Qanons feel stupid now. The wave’s gone and nothing happened.

They've dissolved into the greater mainstream monoconspiracy.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

TremorX posted:

They've dissolved into the greater mainstream monoconspiracy.

aka “the Jews did it”?
That seems to be the conspiracy-theory equivalent of carcinization.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Vahakyla posted:

I wonder if Qanons feel stupid now. The wave’s gone and nothing happened.

Doomsday cults generally take more than one failed prophecy before most of them hit the bricks. Usually it takes several, and even then a core of hard believers often remains.

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

Tesseraction posted:

Moreover the "expert" was one guy who wrote one part of one book about how Pizzagate was a stupid conspiracy, and the guy arrested for possession of CSAM is a different guy with the same name.

I smell another thai cave diver lawsuit.

Edit - weird that the first place Elon’s mind always goes is “my enemies are paedophiles”. Oh well I’m sure it’s nothing.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Doomsday cults generally take more than one failed prophecy before most of them hit the bricks. Usually it takes several, and even then a core of hard believers often remains.
And the remainder becomes more hardcore. Compaction cycles!

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

The Lone Badger posted:

aka “the Jews did it”?
That seems to be the conspiracy-theory equivalent of carcinization.

The general idea of Trump as a messianic figure for Republicans, combined with trans panic bullshit.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

The Artificial Kid posted:

I smell another thai cave diver lawsuit.

Edit - weird that the first place Elon’s mind always goes is “my enemies are paedophiles”. Oh well I’m sure it’s nothing.

Strangely enough, searching around doesn't show anything about Mr Meek filing a lawsuit. Hope it's just in the works, or maybe Musk being a loving idiot and pointing to the wrong guy didn't drive any negative attention to the correct James Meek and so there's no need.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

FFT posted:

And the remainder becomes more hardcore. Compaction cycles!

Prester I barely knew 'er.

Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
MORE INDISPUTABLE PROOF I AM BAD AT POSTING
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SpeakSlow posted:

Prester I barely knew 'er.

A true Cassandra.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Oldschool Conspiracy Theorists: The moon landing was faked
Newschool attempted trolls: Pfft, you believe in the moon?
Q: No

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010
Uh, what? The picture of the aircraft that is his proof pretty clearly shows the same washed out halo effect as the real eclipse.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah but the bits not in front of the Sun are black, which is what you'd also see if the moon was real and inside the atmosphere a few thousand feet away. Therefore fake moon :pseudo:

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