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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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System Metternich posted:

which is significant for some reason?
I'd have thought they'd have gone for the more famous event that happened on November 11th, the end of WWI and the armistice that led Hitler to buy into the whole stab in the back myth.

Then again maybe I'm expecting too much from theories about 4/20 Pope Weed every day.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Have they come up with any reason why the elites have to have tunnels of children being tortured in 'farms' to get their adrenochrome rather than just doing the fairly simple synthesis from epinephrine?

I haven't done a direct financial comparison but I'm fairly sure which one would be an order of magnitude cheaper and easier.

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RagnarokAngel posted:

Thats just how depraved these people are! They dont care about cost its the thrill and spectacle!

In truth its likely that its more interesting and turns more heads if the whole thing is a bit more fantastical.
Yeah, it just pushes it way past the point of belief.

Like elite pedophile clubs? Yeah, that's a definite possibility.

Traumatized kids produce adrenaline? Yes, they do.

Adrenaline is oxidized into adrenochrome, which was thought to have some role in mental health? Yes it is and was.

The elites then bleed the kids? Maybe, abusers do all kinds of hosed up poo poo.

And send the blood to a lab to extract the adrenochrome? That sounds very expensive.

Which they use as a mild clotting agent psychedelic drug during their Satan orgies? Someone's taken Fear and Loathing way too seriously.

That version seems like it's about adding wild details to things that really happen, like powerful groups covering up child sexual abuse, in the same manner that the Satanic Panic of the 80s did, everyone one ups one another until there's kids being flushed down school toilets to secret satan abuse chambers.

The version where there's thousands of kids kept in farms to be farmed for adrenochrome is just bizarre.

Morningwoodpecker posted:

I think its the plot of an X-files episode.
X-Files, Fear and Loathing, Clockwork Orange, it's one of those strange things that keeps coming up. Same with the pineal gland in general, with fluoridation plans to calcify it etc.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I would also ask any q adherent why the elite don't simply use the ready supply of immigrant children they already have inside of concentration camps that are currently dying of neglect and unnecessary surgery. I know the reason is that the q people embraced the q fantasy to distract them from that specific reality and that they don't want to admit out loud that they'd be perfectly happy to see those children tortured to death rather than let free to live with their parents in a city the q person will likely never even visit, but I'd love to know what they'd say in response.
I guess that's not too different to how they had to invent an entirely separate child sex abuse conspiracy (but these ones worship Satan and ship kids in cabinets from a public website) to get mad at to distract from the very real ones.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Are you saying that Hillary Clinton is a pedophile?

And if Obama’s judicial appointments are involved, is Mitch McConnell part of the resistance against the pedophiles, or was his obstruction of Obama merely a happy accident?

And is the idea that every prosecutor in the country part of Hillary Clinton’s blackmail network? Could Trump turn her over to the Hague or get another country’s law system involved? Scotland Yard? London police?
They're very good at protecting wealthy pedophiles if that's what you want, but not so good at the investigating bit.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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InfiniteZero posted:

I recall a short story by I think Ursula K. LeGuin where a society is kept in harmony so long as they have a single child kept hidden and in constant misery, so it's not like it's a very new concept.

Looked it up - "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas", published in 1972. It ends up on the reading list for a lot intro Ethics courses. Everything I read about Q is harvested from mundane pop culture sources.
The ones who walked into Omelas and saw the child and said "I don't need to be disgusted by that because I bet there's a thousand secret children that the Other Guys have hidden."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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A to Z. That's AstraZeneca.

And the Sesame Street characters because we're all puppets.

And Elmo is holding ABC because it means Announce Betacoronavirus.

Genius, Dees, genius. Just needs some Stars of David in the bus lights.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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https://twitter.com/HistoryMuppet/status/1305965582978818049

Guavanaut
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twistedmentat posted:

There was a protest against not dying to Covid here in Toronto and looks like Qanons were part of it

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/09/26/protest-being-held-to-end-the-lockdown-in-downtown-toronto
The main Canadian representative against not dying of Covid literally considered himself the Leader of God's army on earth and was profiting from a bunch of lovely NGOs, although he seems to have recently deleted that from his Isnta after his Euro tours, but it still contains a bunch of bullshit about pizza decals on dolls being evidence of a global child trafficking conspiracy, and if you don't agree then you've bought into the ~mainstream narrative~.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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If that's the case, this guy is going to be so happy in about 5 years time.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Thousands of these hanging from the rear view mirror of Ford F-150s

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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That happening during a global pandemic would have probably just turned it into a million extremely local conspiracy theories and made things worse.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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As someone pointed out earlier, probably at least to the founding of some of the US colonies by people convinced that the Pope was Satan's representative on Earth.

Guavanaut
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Murgos posted:

Also, Biden won't be president this christmas no matter what happens and the Pope and Prince Phillip can't be deep state. They are just the state. You can't be part of a group undermining the state when you are the embodiment of the state, at that point it's just policy. Someone subverting them would be the deep state.
I heard that this Pope person is a Roman Catholic. Is Q aware of this? What are they doing about it?

I heard the same about John F. Kennedy Jr.

Wheels within wheels.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Murgos posted:

Millions of mole children used as sex slaves and harvested for their adrenochome (A thing only referenced in passing in a few fiction books which got it from some sketchy 1950s research papers that were long ago discarded as being non-sense) living in underground caves right under everyone's noses is a pretty good one. I mean, where does the supply of children come from? Also, people would probably notice the thousands of trucks and trains needed to bring food in and remove garbage daily. Are they living in pitch darkness in there or tapping the power grid? Candles? What about materials for support or equipment to pump out water? Not to mention that this whole thing is managed in perfect secrecy.
All to manufacture a chemical with a well known synthetic pathway from catechol in the same way that they used to manufacture meth in the 60s.

But no, you can't ask a lab in China to manufacture it, nor can you use the existing terrible practices in factory pig farming to get mammalian adrenochrome, nor can you even use Chinese prisoners or the actually existing child concentration camps on the border. It has to be thousands of American children trafficked in nightstands by Wayfair. Nothing less will do for the Clintons.

And they don't even tie the very real EpiPen shortage into the conspiracy.

Guavanaut
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And presumably if you use the adrenochrome from the actual children in pain in the camps, you start speaking Mexican and grow a sombrero so everyone knows what you're doing?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7FWr2Nvf9I

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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That's been true for a while.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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RagnarokAngel posted:

I do think most Qanon people believe the virus is real, they just think its a chinese manufactured virus (or natural and released here by china) and also not any worse than the flu
Reminds me of this Countering Extremism report on Covid-19 and conspiracy theories, where

quote:

Another analysis found that those who believed that COVID-19 was created in a lab were over twice as likely to have met up with friends during lockdown, and to believe ‘too much fuss is being made about coronavirus’.

Like, surely if you believed that the virus was a lab designed bioweapon you'd be more scared of it than if you believed that it was a naturally occurring thing 'like the flu', but I guess they're under no obligation to be even internally consistent.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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But like what if it's not? :ohdear: What if the virus is the microchip, and it lets China remotely control you?

But yes, the only way you can square the two is if the real conspiracy is "I don't like change in my routine :(" because in the swamp of pop culture that Q draws from, lab designed bioweapons are generally not a reason to not worry about something or write it off as 'just the flu'.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Right down to some religious leaders calling for a Christmas truce in the war on the virus, as if it's going to agree to something.

In nearly any lovely Q-tier movie or book featuring a bioweapon, the people claiming it's 'just the flu' generally don't get very good endings though.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I heard if you keep saying things like that, they come into your house at night and strangle you with a cord.

DynamicSloth posted:

Holy poo poo, the Jesuit assassin trope? Isn't that from like the 17th century?

QAnon really is the conspiracy theory to unite all conspiracy theories.
Yup. Believing all the conspiracy theories so that the Jesuits, Masons, Mossad, Illuminati, Trilateral Commission, greys, bigfoot, lizard people, British Monarchy, and adrenochrome addled cabinet makers all come for me at the same time and end up attacking one another.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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OwlFancier posted:

I don't necessarily disagree but it's probably one of the most respected publications in the UK lol.
I think the day that I knew for sure that any form of objective analysis of news was dead was when the FT published a statistical overview of migration and economics and people in the comments were calling the newspaper of the Financial Times Stock Exchange 100 Index a 'Marxist source'.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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You forgot the star on the Christmas tree, because it always eventually at some level boils down to this with European/Euro-American/Christian conspiracy theories (and quite a lot of Muslim ones too, but that's not what Q is).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Strong Q energy from this:
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1329489610473402369

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Well, at least Venezuela is in the safe hands of Al Gore.

Guavanaut
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PhallicPhalanges posted:

This is the first time I’ve seen the “atom bombs are fake” conspiracy
I have unfortunately heard it before. It's quite an old conspiracy theory, so of course it's now part of Q.

:tinfoil: ahead:

quote:

Have you heard about Trofim Lyssenko? He was the inventor of pseudoscience or really bad, fake science around 1930! Stalin loved him. Ever heard about Stalin? He was in charge of the Socialist/Communist Paradise (sic) in the Sovietunion 1924 - 1953. A very competent mass murderer that together with Hitler, an incompetent madman, started WW2 by attacking east Poland and Finland 1939 and the Baltic states 1940 and who US president Roosevelt liked a lot. Stalin could keep east Poland, a part of Finland and the Baltic states after WW2. Ever heard about US president Roosevelt, FDR? He was quite competent and created the fake atomic bomb under great, military secrecy 1942/5! With a plenty help from friends. FDR had 1942 asked his secretary of war and destruction, Henry Lewis Stimson, to secretly build nuclear weapons. FDR died April 1945 and was replaced by Harry Truman. And in July Stimson could inform Truman that two a-bombs were ready to be dropped on Japan August 1945, where the war was still on. USA had just lost plenty soldiers - >100 000 killed and injured - invading small islands like Iwo Jima February and Okinawa little later.

Atomic bombs were and are however just propaganda lies and bad science. There is no evidence that they worked in war 1945 or in peace later. The atomic bombs were invented by an American Robert O Lyssenko - a cousin of Trofim - but assisted by A. Einstein and encouraged by Roosevelt and Stalin!

No atomic bombs ever exploded over Hiroshima and Nagasaki August 1945. News about 100.000's of Japanese being vaporized in nanoseconds FLASHes and disappearing in thin air or slowly being killed by nuclear radiation during several months afterwards autumn 1945 at various Japanese hospitals were just Fake News and propaganda!

No scientific reports until July 1945 exists that atomic bombs were ever developed anywhere.

No legal and medical records in Japan can confirm that 100 000's of Japanese either disappeared 6-9 August 1945 due to atomic bomb attacks or the following months due to radioactive radiation. Only stupid atomic bomb museums full of lies suggest it. And of course annual memorial ceremonies in Japan.

Remember, the bigger the LIE, the least evidence is required for it. And all Japanese will just smile and agree. To avoid trouble, of course.

USA is 2020 the greatest military force on Earth with shiny uniforms, medals, graveyards, salutes, 100.000's KIAs, MIAs, etc. And it has lost most wars since 1945 because it doesn't use atomic bombs in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc. Do you know why?

No atomic bombs have ever exploded on planet Earth! Nuclear weapons are just bullshit to keep the world afraid! And big business. And bad science.

Two guys had the same name and the US hasn't nuked anyone since WW2 so it's all fake I guess.

e: Wait no they didn't even have the same names, Robert O Lyssenko is Robert Oppenheimer. Two people had different names so nukes fake. It's the dumbest poo poo.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Nov 24, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Rob Rockley posted:

“Nuclear physics is fake” is a very real and niche conspiracy theory. They postulate that nuclear ships and submarines actually travel over undersea cables like some sort of electrified rail and that power plants are secretly just coal burning or whatever. I loving love it because every conspiracy theory has a reason it exists, like how flat earth proves the Bible, but I haven’t figured out what people get out of thinking the bomb is a hoax.
In the case of some of them, they believe that nuclear reactors, which use slow moderated neutrons (because fast-neutron reactors don't exist I guess) are fine, but an unmoderated exponential nuclear explosion wouldn't work, that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebombed like Tokyo, and that the existence of nuclear bombs was made up to funnel huge amounts of money from the taxpayer to the Military-Industrial Complex.

A large part of it just seems to be wishing away complexity and things that aren't nice like the ever present threat of nuclear war.

Sometimes there's a religious angle, like "God wouldn't allow something so powerful that it could unmake his greatest creation, man." or a weird Nazi anti-relativity angle, because there's always those variants of any conspiracy theory.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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betaraywil posted:

(the story of which is loving great by the way).
I'm sure I've read that before a few years ago but either way I'm glad I read it again, what a wild ride.

Soviet Commubot posted:

It's at whatever tier is between the various directional Michigan universities and a community college.

that article posted:

University of Eastern Pee-Pee Land

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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You can get a few old ones with a tax stamp that was designed to make them completely unaffordable to all but the mega rich in the 30s ($200).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Yeah, you can also get "80% complete sten gun please buy the template jig in a separate transaction and also please do not use the template jig to finish the gun unless you have the appropriate paperwork" fall autos too, and I'd guess most that own them did so illegally.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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It's more a thing of super-Protestants like Quakers/Society of Friends, and their idea of Inner Light.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I remember when Obama was definitely going to do that and it was terrible.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

The difference in trump and obama is trump definitely listens to lunatics that say "suspend the Constitution"
Well yeah, but the conspiracy theory was that Obama would suspend the Constitution and enact martial law and was believed by the exact same smooth brained people that believe that Trump should suspend the Constitution and enact martial law.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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So why is it again that you have to redeem Hitler and believe the earth is flat to find God?

It seems that a lot of people managed without that.

Guavanaut
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

An invisible....war
Noisy Weapons for Invisible Wars.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Were there conspiracy explanations for the 19th century anarchists who actually did public acts of violence out of an understanding of propaganda of the deed?

Like "they're only throwing bombs and getting hanged for throwing bombs because the syndicalist John D. Rockefeller is paying them" type stuff.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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They think they've got away with the big steal, but just wait until 2024, when Biden will be forced by the Constitution to run for reelection, that's when the megakracken will be released.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Dapper_Swindler posted:



plus some great thomas nast art of her.
Is that Colombia defending the noble Chinese from simian Irishmen?

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Guavanaut
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I thought I recognized his, uh, unique manner of depicting Irishness (as literal monkey people).

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