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Fiat is just an IOU, but this certificate is a promise to give me a certain amount of gold whenever I ask for it.
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Deathy McDeath posted:Q reference in a Ben Garrison cartoon Is the spy camera and microphone supposed to be scary because it's the government or good now because Trump is the government and he's just keeping us safe from Muslims and cultural Marxists
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May 15, 2018 04:57
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Wait how can the descendants of Cain still be around when only Noah's family survived the flood.
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Jun 6, 2018 13:10
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:I'm looking for a word, and it's related to "Pareidolia" but not the same thing. "schizophrenia"
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Jun 7, 2018 20:35
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VitalSigns posted:"schizophrenia" Correction, google is telling me the word is Apophenia, the tendency to perceive connections and meaning between unrelated things, of which paredolia is a subset.
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Jun 7, 2018 21:39
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Well they used pizza toppings as code, why is this any less believable!
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Jun 7, 2018 23:52
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Jun 8, 2018 00:11
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Toplowtech posted:Blackwater? What year is it? 2004? They renamed themselves Xe Services in 2009 than Academi in 2011 and mostly work under their owner brand Constellis those days. It's weird to remember how much everyone hated Blackwater back then, until a black president got elected and suddenly white mercenaries became the guardians of freedom.
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Jun 11, 2018 14:47
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Trump can't just tweet out all this information on the deep state cabal to avoid tipping them off before his secret plan comes to fruition. Okay here's the publicly available website where we document the meaning of all his secret symbols that lay bare his entire plan for all the world to see, including the deep state cabal that must not be tipped off in order for Trump's plan to work. No these secret symbols aren't a way to get help from the public to carry out his plan, he just puts it all out there so redditors can masturbate about it and do nothing.
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Jun 18, 2018 22:44
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TulliusCicero posted:Hillary Clinton and Obama used the Clinton Foundation to smuggle children out of Haiti to presumably eat and gently caress (because that is what you do).
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Jun 20, 2018 23:23
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Lurdiak posted:Fulchrum is a die-hard Hillary supporter and thinks the left's criticisms of her are purely based on misinformation and spite, and occasionally goes even further and claims that the left's entire perception of her is a right-wing psyop. Which is weird because there's not much daylight between the two on the single political issue he cares about : bombing lots and lots and lots of foreign children into slag.
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Jun 25, 2018 14:53
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13 is close enough to 14, of course the Illuminati don't put the exact numbers you'd expect in their signs or everyone would know.
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Jul 2, 2018 15:19
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Lurdiak posted:"Get a load of this insane conspiracy theorist!"
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Jul 2, 2018 16:14
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I wish TtFA hadn't felt the need to split hairs on "death camp" versus "camp where kids will die" and gotten a 30-day probe for it. This thread went from laughing at reddit's pareidolia to being those guys in like no time 
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Jul 2, 2018 16:17
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I'm talking about the numerology stuff looking for magic numbers like 1488 or numbers which are "close enough" to those magic numbers like 13 that they can be rationalized into a post hoc fit if you want to find those numbers bad enough.
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Jul 2, 2018 16:31
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OwlFancier posted:I don't think that's really numerology as much as "the fourteen words" is literally how they're described and they have a specific history as a way to communicate white nationalism without sounding like nazis. Flipping pictures around until the symbols look like some other symbol isn't much different from coming up with post hoc numerology strategies to turn some number into some other number with a special meaning. "This paper uses the number 14/88" hmm I agree a little dodgy. Compare: "This paper uses the number X/88, and if you come up with another number Y on your own then X+Y = 14 which just proves it's a secret code to disguise 14/88 for anyone except the elect with the secret knowledge"
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Jul 2, 2018 16:58
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:This paper doesn't use 14/88 it uses "fewer than 13 out of 88". Where you just have to secretly know that the 13 actually means 14 and is encoding a message for you. Yes that's exactly what I'm saying, because people are trying to argue like the number 1488 actually appeared and that it's ridiculous to be skeptical of such an obvious symbol, when in reality an 88 appeared in the denominator of a fraction with a 13 for a numerator and they're arguing that if you replace that 13 with a 14 then it's totally the magic symbol and of course the really clever Nazis would signal with random numbers because you're expected to know to replace them with the special numbers.
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Jul 2, 2018 17:14
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WampaLord posted:Someone earlier asked "Why would they bother doing this?" and this is half of the answer, to cause dumb infighting on the left between "it's secret Nazi code" and "you're a dumb conspiracy theorist" And this is where we go one level deeper where even questioning a claim of an instance secret signaling is all a part of the encoders' plan. There are false flags everywhere, the enemy is infinitely diabolical and clever, but also so clumsy and obvious that anyone can figure out the master plan. Moose-Alini posted:Yeah oocc, you are the only one equating the 13 to 14. Literally no one has made that leap but you. It was in the article that was originally linked bad day posted:Similar to Q-Tips, my Democrat friends have started seeing Nazis everywhere. One of them was flipping out about this nonsense the other day. That article posted:https://twitter.com/seldo/status/1012421614548365313 Goon Danton posted:The 14 word title that invokes the actual 14 Words is absolutely the main concern, yes. But it's indefensible so people who want to defend it focus on the weaker claim. I can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. I can say "hm that title is concerning" and also say "just because you replaced a 13 with a 14 in your mind doesn't mean it's a deliberate symbol"
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Jul 2, 2018 17:46
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Moose-Alini posted:But no one is doing that though. Not in the original article either. The fourteen words is one thing, and the 88 is another. The 13 doesn’t mean anything and no one is saying it does. Someone was quoted saying that in the original article that started this conversation https://twitter.com/seldo/status/1012421614548365313 Goon Danton posted:Hmm yes this swastika spraypainted on this synagogue is "concerning," but we shouldn't dismiss the idea that it is actually the work of an overly enthusiastic Jain who's trying to proselytize. Your theory about Nazis using symbols to communicate with one another seems a bit too far fetched to me, frankly. Pretty different situation from people saying 13 means 14 because it needs to mean 14 in order to be the magic number.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:13
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Goon Danton posted:You are the only one saying this. As we have said over and over and over and over and over, the "14 Words" reference is the actual loving 14 word title that references the 14 Words. I've quoted it twice from the original article that prompted this discussion but okay sure the person saying it in the article isn't saying what they're saying, sounds good mate
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Jul 2, 2018 20:02
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OwlFancier posted:That one person may argue for something poorly is not a point against better arguments for the same thing. I didn't say it was. The pope protected child molesters, but if someone says "hey just because you look at a backwards photo of the pope and kinda squint at a backwards pattern until it reminds you of something else doesn't mean he's clandestinely signalling to child molesting satanists that way" it's absurd to go "wait are you saying there's no child molesters in the church!" I can believe there's racists and white supremacists in DHS, and also believe that it's paranoid to count the number of bullet points and then imagine there's one more which would make it a special symbol, but there's this weird echo chamber effect where I say the latter and you hear me denying the former because it's interpreted as an attack on the team. To the point that I'm quoting the article and people itt (not you) are just straight up refusing to read it or believe what it said rather than be like "ok someone who agrees with me said a dumb thing"
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Jul 2, 2018 20:19
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OwlFancier posted:But the initial complaint was that the idea that the DHS might make allusions to neonazi coding in their press releases about the evils of immigration, was laughable, which the majority of the thread responded to by saying "no that's actually kind of a legitimate concern" No I don't think that the idea that a 14-word phrase starting with "We will secure" could be a Nazi referring to the 14 words is laughable and said as much in like my second reply to you (and in pretty much every reply to everyone where I said "okay but that's not the same as changing numbers to other numbers that you want them to be"). Maybe it is a Nazi, at the very least I don't think it's automatically crazy to think it's a legitimate concern (in fact it would be a legitimate concern even if it were somehow proven to be a coincidence because even accidental Nazi symbolism should be edited once noticed!) My criticism was confined to the post hoc theory-fitting stuff where 13 is "close enough" to 14, and instead of just going "yeah that 13 probably isn't a code number you're supposed know to increment by 1 to get the code" it's turned into this big thing, but I'm not sure we really disagree.
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Jul 2, 2018 21:00
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TulliusCicero posted:It's the same reason why 911 truther made no loving sense; you just ask them why and they can't tell you. Isn't the usual explanation to create a casus belli for war in the Middle East. Like that's one of the few conspiracy theories where there's at least a clear and obvious benefit to the people in power.
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Jul 3, 2018 19:55
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BarbarianElephant posted:I wonder if it would be possible for a normal person to imitate a crazy paranoid conspiracy theorist. Sometimes you get paranoid COUNTER-conspiracy theories, like "Alex Jones is completely sane and faking it all for money." But I don't know of any of these guys who have been proven a fraud and dropped the act. I mean it's questionable how sane Alex Jones is, but one look at his website and it's obvious that it's all about bilking idiots out of money.
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Jul 8, 2018 23:08
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Helen Highwater posted:That's pretty much the opposite of how stealth tech works. Reflecting radio waves would make the plane more visible to radar, not less. The stealth coatings and planforms are there to absorb radio waves and mask heat sources. While radio absorbing coatings are of course used, there will always be EM reflections at any boundary between different materials, so the shape of stealth planes is designed to reflect the incident waves out into space rather right back at the transmitter (which is what most objects do)
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Jul 9, 2018 05:57
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Well obviously the President's true position wouldn't be given out to the public while he's in the air for his own safety, and he certainly can't correct the misinformation now or it will tip off the Deep State that he is on to them. Posting about it on 4chan is fine tho, the Deep State would never think to look there because why would they it's not like Q followers are holding very public conventions or anything telling everyone what the white hats are secretly up to.
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Aug 1, 2018 00:14
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The Phlegmatist posted:one of the most popular Q-talkers is a schizophrenic European. because the Jew-run pedophile cabal is global in scale duh
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Aug 19, 2018 00:34
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Fulchrum posted:My favorite bit is that he considers depriving them of a decades old RV or a collection of DVD's of of Dinesh D'Souza movies and porno tapes (I'm guessing, but its pretty safe) as the ultimate punishment. That's the part that makes me doubt it's real, seems a bit too self-aware to list out your worthless crap when gloating about writing your kids out of the will.
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Aug 21, 2018 10:10
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If Trump is inviting Anons to the White House for photo ops, surely the need for secrecy has passed and they can just start perp-walking Hillary, Obama, Huma, Tom Hanks, Comey, etc etc etc right?
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Aug 24, 2018 23:05
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Fulchrum posted:Thankfully, Trump has replaced the eeeevil Obama and is therefore doing less of those things. No Trump is doing those thing more
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Aug 25, 2018 23:07
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Oh I guess I didn't get why claiming Trump isn't mass murdering foreigners is supposed to be joke, he obviously is. I guess it was just a weird attempt at absurdist humor
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Aug 26, 2018 00:11
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Fulchrum posted:More specifically, its using sarcasm to highlight how stupid it is to claim that Obamas goals were to kill children and deport brown people now that we're seeing what Trump is doing. Nah we already knew that before the escalator was a glimmer in Trump's beady little raccoon eyes Fulchrum posted:Good thing that Trump replaced the status quo. No, actually it's bad.
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Aug 26, 2018 03:11
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Man dies of cancer just after discontinuing his cancer treatment, a little too convenient...
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Aug 26, 2018 04:01
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lmao hillbots still desperately wailing about her electability in 2018, can we keep the thread focused on Q's brand of insanity we really don't need more
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Sep 3, 2018 21:21
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TulliusCicero posted:My favorite thing about all of this cognitive dissonance is something I just realized: America was the last country free of the cabal, it only fell to into the clutches of the international conspiracy in 1965 at the exact moment Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act.
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Sep 5, 2018 22:04
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I like the idea that Q could have moved against the cabal at any time, but wanted to wait for exactly 17 years in order to impart secret numerological reassurance to idiots on the internet
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Helsing posted:There's a guy in my old neighborhood who would sells books for $2-$4 on the sidewalk (pretty good selection of em too) and he had plenty of opinions to share on conspiracy topics like this one. I remember his explanation for why the Illuminati is always enacting specific events on particular dates is because all their public actions are also magickal rituals being performed in plain sight and the numerology is part of that. A seemingly random event like a plane crash was actually a mass sacrificial ritual carried out in plain site according to occult dates and procedures. Ohhhh I see. Because the whitehats have Q clearance/call themselves Q/whatever then for numerological reasons a 17-year ritual was necessary to defeat the satanic cabal. These aren't coded messages to us, they're evidence of the spiritual battle being waged in plain sight if we know how to look for the signs. That's actually....more reasonable than the belief that the Illuminati drops hints everywhere just to flaunt their power? Like it's still batshit crazy but if you believe in magic spells and demonic rituals already, "Q had to wait 17 years for the ritual to work/the Federal Reserve had to hide pictures of the 9-11 attacks on all the money for a century for the sympathetic magic to work" is a much more plausible motivation than the most powerful people in the world revealing their secret plans by sending coded messages to random idiots on the street for no gain.
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Fulchrum posted:I thought the gain was to taunt them, that is, the conspiracy theorist, personally. Its like a movie villain who lectures the hero about their motie and plan instead of not doing that. Because all of this conspiracy bullshit is just the product of people who have never been able to accept they aren't the protagonist of a movie. That's what you often see and what I was making fun of, I was just remarking that Helsing's friend's explanation is possibly less insane because while it relies on superstitious beliefs, given that one accepts those superstitions it at least provides powerful actors a plausible motivation for leaving all these deliberate clues in plain sight. I guess you could go either way. On the one hand believing in magic is arguably crazier than believing powerful cabals of puppetmasters all have the ridiculous compulsion to reveal their top secret plan to morons in order to gloat because while stupid the latter is at least physically possible. On the other hand magical thinking is a common human foible whereas whereas failing the theory of mind so bad that you assume powerful people give enough a poo poo about you personally to fill the world with coded messages to you is abnormal.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Is there any evidence they are increasing? Olde timey people used to think all sorts of dumb crap. You used to be able to think dumb crap and have it be reasonably mainstream. Like a random guy could walk into town in 1900 and claim something absurd was a cure all and it'd get huge traction, even if the doctors of the day said "no it's not" (and even the 'legitimate' doctors of the day were pretty fishy) Most Americans believe equally stupid crap now, like they aren't related to any other form of life on the planet because a magic man made their male ancestor out of dirt and their female one out of that guy's bones five thousand years ago (just a week after he made the earth and solar system itself), and this same magical sculptor is going to take them personally to a big house in the sky filled with the latest GE appliances and also horribly torture everyone they don't like forever and ever, just wait and believe. And even more people believed stuff like that in the past.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Okay, keep us updated edgy 2003 teen atheist. To head off an atheism debate I'm just going to say that believing in an ineffable higher power for existential comfort or whatever is not remotely the same as believing that all of geology, biology, and anthropology are lies and that I personally know the mind of a superior being and he's especially keen on torturing everyone I don't like for jacking it or disagreeing with me on the superior being's favorite/least favorite foods. And it's not exactly a coincidence that all these QAnon conspiracy theories involve spiritual battles between people who look like white suburbanites and everyone else and a worldwide scientific conspiracy against the truth that only they know.
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