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Zoeb
Oct 8, 2023

pseudanonymous posted:

Not sure if people are aware of the "Apes" phenomenon that has arisen on reddit as an outgrowth of the Wallstreetbets memestocks:

There's an SA thread here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4042825&userid=0&perpage=40&highlight=ape&pagenumber=1


Pretty solid video on it from folding ideas (line goes up guy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pYeoZaoWrA

He directly contrasts with Qanon at one point and says he doesn't see much overlap, but I see a lot of the same behaviors - interpreting vague signals from public figures and decoding them, and endless wait for a day that prophecy that is never fulfilled, an insular community with built in reinforcement mechanisms in the culture, myriad shibboleths and in-group jargon, a syncretic belief structure that is constantly morphing and re-interpreting past events.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the video. This is Qanon for the stock market.

I just can't wrap my head around it. This or Qanon. It's like seeing three lines of different length on the board and seeing every one else in the room say the 2nd longest line is the longest. I've seen explanation after explanation of the phenomenon. Why are these people not seeing the absurdity of their own beliefs?

I feel like the apes are addicted to copium. I feel like Qanon are addicted to copium too. They wanted Trump because he promised them what they want, an end to everything they hate: liberals, Washington corruption, my kids who won't talk to me. As Trump demonstrated himself to be a child in a man's body with little interest in governing and no talent to accomplish anything, they became arsonists. They clung to Q in the hopes that their delusions could become reality. The apes are clinging to meme stocks for the same reason and I feel bad for family member's who have lost wealth from Apes stealing to buy more worthless stocks.

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Zoeb
Oct 8, 2023

Leon Sumbitches posted:

They all seem to be seeing the * as holding special meaning... Any ideas what it represents in their worldview?

Like everything else with Q it is a wildcard that shifts in meaning at the drop of a hat, always coming back to "I was always right and my doubters and nay sayers are silent." The goalpost is on wheels. It's like a how random noises that come out of Donald Trump's brain hole are genius 9 dimensional chess predictions about the future. Like how he idly speculated that one day all currencies would equal the dollar, which led to q people falling for the Iraqi Dinar grift or how Trump speculated that if bleach kills COVID, what if we put bleach in the body which was a boon for that cult that sells bleach for people to drink.

Zoeb
Oct 8, 2023
This person they got for child porn, who I have never even heard of, wouldn't have even needed to debunk pizzagate. Pizzagate was debunked by reality. Pizzagate was absurd on its face. The restaurant didn't even have a basement. The claim's source was insane troll logic pulled from thin air.

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