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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Auspol April - It's all fucking fucked

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

bell jar posted:

Guess I just have to suffer in this lovely job! Nothing else I can do! Gonna keep my employer making money by turning up reliably and withstanding horrible rules for no reason!

Your labour is an asset and depriving your employer of it when its inconvenient for them is the only tool you have to fight them.

I think the point is that just finding a new job isn't quite as simple as you're implying

# ¿ Apr 4, 2018 00:35

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:19

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

bell jar posted:

Who said anything about finding a new job, I'm simply advocating leaving this one, hth

e: wait i did, im a moron, wheres my coffee

can't even read their own posts mistah spoikah

e: tbf I also need some more coffee, where's my mainline

# ¿ Apr 4, 2018 00:42

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

'use centrelink' lol

# ¿ Apr 4, 2018 03:12

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

You Am I posted:

Are the News Corpse/Fairfax paywalls still broken as poo poo that you can read an article in incognito mode?

my favourite method is googling the headline

# ¿ Apr 4, 2018 04:31

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

bigis posted:

The people�s bank idea is dumb though. Low rates for people with equity isn�t going to improve housing affordability for those struggling to save a deposit.

yeah this was my thought as well.

build more inner city/ inner suburb apartments IMO (unironically, this is what we need to do to make poo poo more affordable)

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 01:41

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

it's also stymied by council approvals. councils are supposed to work for the people who voted them in (ie current residents) so it's in their interests not to approve a lot of cheaper apartment blocks in inner ring suburbs

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 01:51

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

BBJoey posted:

young greens are pissed off and wrote a letter to the federal party room asking them to strip the education portfolio from SHY because apparently she�s useless. this letter was of course handed to the australian. any inside perspectives?

someone in the AYG facebook group leaked it as well as the 'marked up' version of the SHY response that someone did--the leak is explicitly against the fb group user agreement--so the AYG are pretty pissed that the letter was leaked too.

The Before Times fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Apr 5, 2018

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 04:51

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

BBJoey posted:

marking up the response is such a pitch perfect example of the kind of tedious pieces of poo poo you find youth wings of political parties, it�s quite impressive

e: i bet if you asked the person who marked up the response if they wanted members of parliament to speak honestly without intermediaries they�d give you an emphatic yes - but pointing out minor typos and grammatical errors is precisely why politicians use poo poo like talking points and form responses

that's the thing--the markup was a joke (i.e. haha it's a lovely letter written by the education portfolio) and was never intended for public consumption, because out of that context it's not funny and gives the impression that the AYG are all a bunch of pedantic children, when really, only some of us are.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 05:16

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

G-Spot Run posted:

Uh ... No?

One of the benefits is that it takes out a lot of the issues around stay at home parenting and domestic duties as an unpaid social labour. Your wife works, she just doesn't get loving paid for it.

edit: It can also be seen as a driver for gender equality because there's no faffing about with maternity or paternity entitlements, whoever wants to can stay home, or you can take turns for as long as you want, or you can go back to work and get child care like people already do without having your income slashed in third/half/pick a number by the childcare fees.

and, ideally, any 'spare money' will make it back into the economy anyway

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 05:34

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

I think part of the idea of UBI, though, is giving people time to do enriching activities that aren't just 'jobs for the sake of having a job'. Think of the art, music, literature even science that came out of bored aristocrats (albeit a long time ago now), and imagine how much good could be generated by giving people the time and space to actually pursue their interests without needing to do something else to pay the bills.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 06:22

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

yes, a bunch of us would just sit on our arses watching netflix all day but a whole lot of people would be out there actually making and doing cool poo poo.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 06:23

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

bell jar posted:

here's a cool question, would there be consumerism under communism or socialism, would that be bad, why

if you boil consumerism down to 'people acquiring stuff not because they need it but because they want it' then yes, consumerism would absolutely exist, even in a situation where notionally everything belongs to the state (hint: there's always private property because humans are humans and my pile of rocks needs to be bigger than your pile of rocks)

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 06:33

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

I would 10000% go part time (like .6 or .8 fte) if I could afford to and still be just as productive as I am now, if not more productive.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 06:40

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

drunkill posted:

spill spill spilll

https://twitter.com/AndrewJaffrey/status/981764639603109893

hahahahaha

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 07:42

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

time to start building those gulags

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 07:47

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

what's the bet someone's whispering in Dutton's ear and building him up to think he'll be GREAT for LNP leader; meanwhile they know Dutton will lose the next election in a landslide and the leadership will change hands once again to ScoMo or Julie 'I litigated people to death' Bishop (though I am convinced she's too smart to ever go for LNP leader).

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 07:54

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

wikipedia posted:

Under Liberal Party rules, any Liberal member of parliament or senator can propose a motion to spill the party's leadership. The leader of the party then invites a discussion of the motion at a party room meeting and makes a decision whether to call a vote on the matter based on the sentiments which are expressed.The leader chooses whether to conduct the vote through a public show of hands or a secret ballot; historically it has been conducted by secret ballot.

If a vote on the spill motion is conducted and a majority supports a spill, the leadership is declared to be vacant. Candidates then nominate for the position and a vote is held among the members present at the meeting. If more than two people nominate, multiple rounds of voting take place, with the lowest-placed candidate being eliminated until only two candidates remain. The winner of the ballot is the candidate who then receives the majority of votes.

a spill requires a party room meeting, not cabinet

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 07:58

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hooman posted:

Does that mean the LNP leader could just decide never to call a spill?

Sentiment in the room is "gently caress yall, I'm leader".

I mean, if anyone would do that it'd be Tony Abbott and yet, here we are. It's probably a convention that the motion will be heard if the 'sentiment' is there.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 08:02

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Les Affaires posted:

I don't discount the likelihood that a Turnbull backer was the one spreading the rumours about Dutton and Bishop in order to force the two of them to pledge allegiance to him and squash the whole thing before next week.

nah I think they (should) know that speculating like that will make a spill even more likely, eventually

# ¿ Apr 6, 2018 02:04

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

comic shop that's cool

not possible

# ¿ Apr 6, 2018 06:43

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...406-p4z867.html

I can't believe it's not satire posted:

Coastal towns would benefit from an oil spill in the pristine Great Australian Bight because the clean up would boost their economies, energy giant BP has claimed as part of its controversial bid to drill in the sensitive marine zone.

capitalism is good

# ¿ Apr 6, 2018 07:12

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

What about subway? would you call what you get from them a sandwich?

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 06:55

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

What about hoagies? is that a type of sandwich?

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 06:57

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

maybe democracy sausages are actually a type of wrap

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 07:00

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

anyway, the sandwich is by definition a colonialist construct.

deconstruct colonialism

and sandwiches.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 07:01

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

lol they think there's a posh one

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 07:15

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

if you fold your pizza to eat it, is it a sandwich?

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 07:18

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

the sausage sizzle is the event, though, not the product.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 07:26

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

what if your bread is a bit dry and splits in half when you wrap it around the sausage

# ¿ Apr 8, 2018 07:27

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Solemn Sloth posted:

Just sat in a cafe next to some bow tie wearing gently caress of a greens staffer complaining about snowflakes and sjws burn the party to the ground

which cafe and how hard did you punch them

# ¿ Apr 10, 2018 03:26

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

so soy boy is the new 'cuck'?

# ¿ Apr 10, 2018 07:20

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

can someone summarise for those of us with crappy work computers with no headphones

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 00:32

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

drunkill posted:

It has subtitles

...good point.

G-Spot Run posted:

"My metric for being PM is education funding, hospital waiting lists, aged care waiting lists, wage growth, Malc mate stop being such a soft soy boy sookin about polls the metrics are the people" okay the last part isn't anything like what he said but it's close enough.

I could get behind some of that

I'll still never put Labor ahead of Greens until they dismantle the concentration camps and stop torturing refugees

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 00:39

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

I'm not going to claim islam is in any way a feminist religion (pmuch all organised religions poo poo on women) but there are elements of truth--e.g. the quran gave property rights and (extremely limited) divorce rights to women long before there was any such thing in the west. In modern practice there are obviously huge issues with the way women are treated in muslim majority countries.

So definitely an absurd claim for Yassmin, but that one line she said in the heat of the moment seems to be used as a dogwhistle to invalidate anything she says by dudebros on the internet. every time I see a mention of her, the redditors dogpile with the 'lol islam is the most feminist religion' comment and completely ignores whatever (usually completely valid) she's actually making

Most likely, she personally practises a feminist version of islam (because hey, it's not the monolith that people make it out to be), so to her it might be the most feminist religion. I forget how she worded it so it was probably worded poorly and in the heat of the moment. Not really a reason to dismiss her as a valid commentator on islam (or anything else for that matter).

In any case we need more women of colour in journalism and public life. I'd prefer her to van badtake any day.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 05:45

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

JBP posted:

They're all van badtake. Is Rita Panahi a good or bad WOC?

lol at inviting this forum to call someone a good or bad WOC

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 05:51

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

hooman posted:

Is that evidentially correct though or based on your assumptions?

I don't know whether it is or not, Indonesia is the largest muslim country on Earth and has a similar inequality index to Mexico?

Indonesia also has shocking rates of FGM

https://data.unicef.org/resources/female-genital-mutilation-cutting-country-profiles/

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 06:08

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

JBP posted:

Yassmin Abdel-Magied tried to gain access to the United States under false pretenses and was turned away.

Speaking of poo poo takes, this is disingenuous tripe

Maybe she simply made a mistake with her visa? Perhaps she has experiences of being treated with suspicion at international airports, combined with the current political atmosphere in the US, which caused her to jump to a conclusion about why she was being held up.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 06:54

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

JBP posted:

Now this is some loving disingenuous tripe. Any speaking engagement like this provides a guide for entry and international guest directions. It is also her job to deliver hot takes and should have, in her own interest, secured the correct visa to enter the US. I nearly got knocked back once because I had seven of the same tshirt in my bag as gifts and they though I was promoting Australian sports.

so you're saying it's incredibly easy to be knocked back for dumb reasons

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 06:59

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

She travelled on a tourist visa for a paid speaking engagement.

that is literally the US visa type you should travel on for conferences and stuff

http://www.ustraveldocs.com/au/au-niv-typeb1b2.asp

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:19

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

interesting how that was an easy mistake to make

(jk, it's difficult to figure out which type of working visa she actually would/should have gotten tho)

# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 07:09

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