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here's a genius idea for leftists that has never failed before: armed vanguardism woop woop insane clown posse yo
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Philadelphia proved conclusively this year that if the conditions are right, there is absolutely nothing--not crisco, not industrial lubricant, and certainly not barred gates--the police can do to stop us from storming city hall, or any other part of the city. Comrade Big Dick Nick shall lead us in glorious revolution!
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i think the folks making those arguments are still thinking about the foco theory which worked in cuba and think it can be applied to the united states while forgetting that the weather underground already tried it weather underground was not really foco, foco is rural, weather underground were more influenced by urban guerrilla movements (which universally failed)
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Hiding in the woods is a powerful strategy that should not be underestimated. Consider, for instance, the saga of the diaper sniper.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:here's a genius idea for leftists that has never failed before: armed vanguardism woop woop insane clown posse yo
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:we can prohibit or ban guns and gun ownership without literally kicking in doors good luck with that
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jarofpiss posted:good luck with that it seems pretty easy to me to just get rid of or massively restrict the huge legally sanctioned armories nearly everywhere in america http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2013/feb/11/markel-hutchins/are-there-more-places-buy-gun-big-mac/ quote:So what’s easier to find? The golden arches or a gun shop. ownership is a different issue but you gotta dam the river before draining the lake or something the bitcoin of weed has issued a correction as of 18:28 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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faygo not firearms whoop whoop
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:only if we do the same for the military and police Of course, which is why I'm just yelling into the void anyway since neither my idea nor that will ever happen in the US so....
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Dr. Killjoy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YIGApUmKog i've never seen newsroom because i hate aaron sorkin. is this a comedy? is the joke that John News is the kind of faux niceguy dickpic DMing weirdo that women justifiably get guns and tasers and pepper sprays to ward off? and that the Hillary Fan should've kept the piece on her to keep John News from turning it on her?
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shapiro wins because he brings an AR-15 variant checkmate liberals
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i can't get that clip out of my mind. obviously it creates a text where proactive violence is 100% correct + justified, and the author is unaware of this. that's fine. takes all types to make the world go 'round. but granting that intent is meaningless, what is the actual intent?!?! *dude pulls a gun on a lady in a sexytime setting* "Hrm yeah, you raise a solid point, check mate. You got her." What is the pavlovian response supposed to be in a positive sense?
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The four branches of democratic power: legislative, executive, judiciary and guns
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Willie Tomg posted:i can't get that clip out of my mind. obviously it creates a text where proactive violence is 100% correct + justified, and the author is unaware of this. that's fine. takes all types to make the world go 'round. i will not watch a newsroom clip but i'm betting it's the same tired Owned By Their Own Logic sorkin poo poo
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so which is it, are guns weak and useless toys that could never present a legitimate threat when wielded en masse, or are they super deadly killing machines that are way too dangerous and powerful to be allowed in civilian hands?? also ive never owned a gun and dont even live in america but lol every anti-gun argument in this thread is stupid as poo poo, even the really pompous guy who was all AND THATS JUST HOW IT IS after writing a really dumb post
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Wheeee posted:so which is it, are guns weak and useless toys that could never present a legitimate threat when wielded en masse, or are they super deadly killing machines that are way too dangerous and powerful to be allowed in civilian hands?? high schoolers aren't the american military, shooting at one will produce different results than shooting at the other hth
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I don't know how people can think guns are bad when they've now been used to terrorize bay area techies
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:we can prohibit or ban guns and gun ownership without literally kicking in doors Just like the prohibition of drugs, I'm certain that the law enforcement will be equally distributed among black and white communities.
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guns are bad because they hurt people but when people hurt people, u need to hurt back so u can hurt the people who hurt people so you can hurt people if they hurt people so that you hurt people that hurt people who hurt people while hurting people
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Dreddout posted:high schoolers aren't the american military, shooting at one will produce different results than shooting at the other hth Yeah, apparently the american military are a lot easier to rack up the kill count with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting
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Lol if you think I'm giving up my guns while the police are still killing unarmed people at random
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Sidakafitz posted:I don't know how people can think guns are bad when they've now been used to terrorize bay area techies i used to think guns were cool, and good, but now somehow they're even better???
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His Purple Majesty posted:Lol if you think I'm giving up my guns while the police are still killing unarmed people at random If people didn't have guns maybe police wouldn't think anything they see you hold in your hands is a gun.
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LegoPirateNinja posted:If people didn't have guns maybe police wouldn't think anything they see you hold in your hands is a gun. nah this would definitely still happen
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the bitcoin of weed posted:nah this would definitely still happen
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police arent paranoid cowardly bullies who mentally separate themselves from the populace of "civilians" because of guns, its because they are literally trained and culturally conditioned to be so
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Wheeee posted:so which is it, are guns weak and useless toys that could never present a legitimate threat when wielded en masse, or are they super deadly killing machines that are way too dangerous and powerful to be allowed in civilian hands?? guns are hyper deadly murder machines which is why only the state can be entrusted with them people get weird when you say state violence is fine, but nobody in my suburb has ever even been targeted by the state
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Wheeee posted:so which is it, are guns weak and useless toys that could never present a legitimate threat when wielded en masse, or are they super deadly killing machines that are way too dangerous and powerful to be allowed in civilian hands?? I'll explain with an example. The Italian Fascist Party surviving into the upper 2010s, albeit shocking, depressing and technically illegal, is not an existential threat to the country, fragmented as the vile thing is into two parties and a half that barely reach 2% of votes combined. That is, however, cold comfort to the Indian peddlers who routinely get beaten to near death (and occasionally shot or stabbed to death) in Rome Or, to put it another way: a group of armed people large and organized enough to enact change can almost certainly do so just as well unarmed. Meanwhile, a small group of armed fucktards can, at best, ruin many people's lives
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America doesn’t have a gun problem we have a thoughts and prayers problem. Specifically, you godless liberals aren’t thoughting and prayering hard enough.
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hackbunny posted:Or, to put it another way: a group of armed people large and organized enough to enact change can almost certainly do so just as well unarmed. Meanwhile, a small group of armed fucktards can, at best, ruin many people's lives Yeah I bet that the entire armed forces of the Soviet Union would still have defeated Nazi Germany even if they didn't have any guns or tanks or planes 
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hackbunny posted:Or, to put it another way: a group of armed people large and organized enough to enact change can almost certainly do so just as well unarmed. lol
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Clochette posted:Just like the prohibition of drugs, I'm certain that the law enforcement will be equally distributed among black and white communities. no one is saying total law enforcement reform is not important, but if we’re trying to focus on gun ownership specifically it’s a separate issue
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drat man someone needs to tell every military in the world they can win wars just as easily unarmed, would save us a shitload of money
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hackbunny posted:Or, to put it another way: a group of armed people large and organized enough to enact change can almost certainly do so just as well unarmed this is deeply, deeply wrong, as a cursory inspection of long lasting authoritarian regimes will demonstrate- a state with a sufficiently strong monopoly on the tools of violence and which isn't shy about using that monopoly can easily tell the majority of it's population to go hang (literally) most of the successful non-violent protest movements of the 20th century succeeded in conjunction with the implicit threat of more radical violent counteparts while violence is very frequently counterproductive, the notion that peaceful, law-abiding protests are the only way to go about things is pure bunk, especially given how adept governments have gotten at managing them
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jarofpiss posted:i dont care enough about white high schoolers to justify a confiscation program that will be inevitably used to massacre people of color in their own homes This is the worst post in this thread that not only a) sets up an incredibly ludicrous false dichotomy but also b) pretends that only white high schoolers are victims of gun violence. Because, you know, when I hear the name Emma González, I definitely think white. But that's okay. we should do nothing and let the NRA, a literal propaganda arm of capital driving people to violence, have the final word, because of a hypothetical scenario that doesn't hold up to the fact that we actually do have records of who holds guns, the majority of which are white, cryptofascist murder fetish hoarders - but fail to have a national gun registry because the NRA, a literal propaganda arm of the arms manufacturers that produce and sell these weapons, has lobbied against it. https://www.thetrace.org/2016/08/atf-ridiculous-non-searchable-databases-explained/ It's not like it manners anyways because the generation that is following ours has had it with going to school in fear of being gunned down by fellow classmates or even supposed adults, and will make these changes within our lifetime. It will be messy, and the mistakes and abuses made must be brought to light and punished, but we can't go on like this forever, and we won't.
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Taintrunner posted:It's not like it manners anyways because the generation that is following ours has had it with going to school in fear of being gunned down by fellow classmates or even supposed adults, and will make these changes within our lifetime. It will be messy, and the mistakes and abuses made must be brought to light and punished, but we can't go on like this forever, and we won't. lmao, the generation that follows ours is going to see the terminal point of capitalism and climate change arrive hand in hand and will have a far more personal relationship with guns than anyone posting on this forum
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