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Coming soon from Kaiser Pemanente; Something Healhful. "Free" healthcare makes you stupid. AWFUL LINK OF THE DAY: https://www.nhs.uk
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Apr 15, 2018 14:27
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thats not the way to get aneck in life
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Apr 15, 2018 14:30
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OP, you could go the Wikipedia route and have the site spam everyone with a friendly message that if every registered member of SA donated just $3.28 you could pay off your doctor bill in only three minutes!
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Apr 15, 2018 14:31
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gently caress a half measure just lock the forums and make everyone pay ten more bones to post.
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Apr 15, 2018 14:38
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Ok, now you are officially more broke than me. So I bought platinum and archives and avatar and poo poo. US healthcare is a loving disgrace.
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Apr 15, 2018 14:38
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rear end posted:$61k for surgery that, had it not been done, could've resulted in a heart attack. Is there no way to weasel out of this? Maybe he could sue his parents for making genetic defects or possibly an organized religion for negligence. Are the auditors aware that god wasn't following generally accepted practices when life was created? You can probably sue the auditors if they signed off on this life creation process.
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Apr 15, 2018 14:40
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Kazak posted:gently caress a half measure just lock the forums and make everyone pay ten more bones to post. wanna keep posting? better pay THE TAX 
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Apr 15, 2018 14:41
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Just ask them if they accept account upgrades as payment
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Apr 15, 2018 14:47
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Could have universal healthcare if the taxes weren't so...low.
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Apr 15, 2018 14:50
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Kazak posted:I have a friend who got charged an astronomical price for a three hour stay, they negotiated down to something feasible but it's more accurate to say they vocally, adamantly refused to pay the hyper inflated initial price. As I understand, the way that works is that when they deal with insurance companies, they bill high and then negotiate down to roughly what they intended to charge anyway. Except that they can't have a different asking price for insured and uninsured patients. I remember reading something which advised asking something like "How much would you end up actually paying if I had insurance?", something to indicate that you know how the game is played. Universe Master posted:Could have universal healthcare if the taxes weren't so...low. Last I checked, the US government pays more per capita on healthcare than many countries with full-on single-payer systems. So it's not about jacking up taxes so much as cost control - telling companies that they can't charge whatever they feel like for the things people need to live, no matter how good their lobbyists are at giving blowjobs. Cockmaster fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Apr 15, 2018 14:52
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Canada might have socialized healthcare but it's often impossible to obtain it, so don't feel too bad. Most of the time it's "well, you're merely in complete anguish and praying for death 99% of the time, so this procedure is considered optional and you'll have to pay the whole thing". It's then often either just as expensive or you'll wait three years on a list.
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Apr 15, 2018 14:55
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Iirc the tax man has insurance. High deductible insurance but insurance none the less. I think for an individual the max out of pocket is usually 6-8k so while still an expensive financial burden, is at least "less awful".
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Apr 15, 2018 14:56
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Gimbal lock posted:Canada might have socialized healthcare but it's often impossible to obtain it, so don't feel too bad. Most of the time it's "well, you're merely in complete anguish and praying for death 99% of the time, so this procedure is considered optional and you'll have to pay the whole thing". It's then often either just as expensive or you'll wait three years on a list. Ah yes, as opposed to American insurance companies that do exactly the same but in a more inefficient fashion that gives access to much less people.
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Apr 15, 2018 14:58
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I wonder if the people Trump bombed in Syria are getting free healthcare right now.
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Apr 15, 2018 14:59
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I bought plat while unemployed because of this.
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Apr 15, 2018 15:00
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Ok so they would just let you die or is this a debt you can kind of run away from
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Apr 15, 2018 15:02
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Lowtax posted:Dude the new Nismo units are going for $190k. It's insane, the whole reason of buying a GTR originally was price to performance ratio. Now they're pricing themselves out of the market. You don't need the Nismo, just get the Premium for like 110k.
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Apr 15, 2018 15:03
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Gimbal lock posted:Canada might have socialized healthcare but it's often impossible to obtain it, so don't feel too bad. Most of the time it's "well, you're merely in complete anguish and praying for death 99% of the time, so this procedure is considered optional and you'll have to pay the whole thing". It's then often either just as expensive or you'll wait three years on a list. You live in Canada?
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Apr 15, 2018 15:03
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drat they should throw in some free tits for that much. 
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Apr 15, 2018 15:04
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Gimbal lock posted:Canada might have socialized healthcare but it's often impossible to obtain it, so don't feel too bad. Most of the time it's "well, you're merely in complete anguish and praying for death 99% of the time, so this procedure is considered optional and you'll have to pay the whole thing". It's then often either just as expensive or you'll wait three years on a list. And to hell with you if you suggest spending money to make it better! MY TAXES!!!
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Apr 15, 2018 15:04
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Ah yes, here it is. The 'pity me' post. "Don't get the fancy spine" we said. "Don't go for all the bells and whistles like anastheasia" we said. "No" you said. Well now look atcha. (Sorry taxman  )
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Apr 15, 2018 15:07
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Big Beef City posted:Ah yes, here it is. The 'pity me' post. Well he is part robot now and closer to perfection than a lot of us buddy. 
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Apr 15, 2018 15:10
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Gimbal lock posted:Canada might have socialized healthcare but it's often impossible to obtain it, so don't feel too bad. Most of the time it's "well, you're merely in complete anguish and praying for death 99% of the time, so this procedure is considered optional and you'll have to pay the whole thing". It's then often either just as expensive or you'll wait three years on a list. Canadian as well, your mileage may vary. They've always been very expedient. Longest anyone I know had to wait was a couple of months and that's only because of secondary complications.
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Apr 15, 2018 15:25
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Plant MONSTER. posted:Canadian as well, your mileage may vary. They've always been very expedient. Longest anyone I know had to wait was a couple of months and that's only because of secondary complications.
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Apr 15, 2018 15:39
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mind the walrus posted:Yeah I've heard both sides from a few Canadians, but it tends to err on the "it does work." I did know someone personally who had a terminally ill father who waited too long to get checked out, and by the time he did they basically punted him to the back of the priority list because there was little to be done other than let him die. That really sucked for her. That sucks, but that happens even with US care, or if you go private and pay for it yourself in. Good doctors won't help if they think its a lost cause, bad ones will take your money and gently caress up the chances of the NEXT patient that deserved that kidney/chemo/whatever.
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Apr 15, 2018 15:47
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:Well he is part robot now and closer to perfection than a lot of us buddy. 
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Apr 15, 2018 15:48
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TheReverend posted:Iirc the tax man has insurance. High deductible insurance but insurance none the less. It's pretty bad even with insurance. Without insurance, this would have wiped him out (or anyone else not independently wealthy.) USA, where having health insurance just means you'll scrabble desperately to pay your bills while arguing with bureaucrats about what your life is worth
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Apr 15, 2018 15:50
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happyhippy posted:That sucks, but that happens even with US care, or if you go private and pay for it yourself in.
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Apr 15, 2018 15:51
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ikanreed posted:I bought plat while unemployed because of this. I did the same right before the surgery. I’d genuinely throw a couple Hundo your way lowtax but I don’t got much left gently caress the people in power that let hosed up poo poo like this happen daily. So many people get to either die from not being able to get medical treatments or live and feel like burden because they now owe so much money. Disgraceful poo poo.
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Apr 15, 2018 15:56
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Gimbal lock posted:Canada might have socialized healthcare but it's often impossible to obtain it, so don't feel too bad. Most of the time it's "well, you're merely in complete anguish and praying for death 99% of the time, so this procedure is considered optional and you'll have to pay the whole thing". It's then often either just as expensive or you'll wait three years on a list. most of the "you have to wait forever" stuff stems from non-emergency stuff. wah wah i had to wait for hours in the ER when I broke my wrist type stuff (meanwhile some guy who hit a maple tree out for a rip is bleeding out on a table but hey IM WAITIN HERE)
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Apr 15, 2018 16:02
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Is that before or after whatever insurance you may or may not have? Also, looks like it's time to sell out again. Is eFront still around?
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Apr 15, 2018 16:06
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I have paid more for the forums than I would have paid for the surgery here in 
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Apr 15, 2018 16:11
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That bill is a loving disgrace and it still baffles me as to why so many Americans accept that kind of poo poo instead of marching on all the bastards responsible and tearing them apart. It's straight up indecent and inhumane, putting people in debt for the rest of their miserable lives, ugh.
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Apr 15, 2018 16:16
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Glad to hear that you got your spine replaced with diamonds I bet it looks really cool
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Apr 15, 2018 16:26
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Sentinel Red posted:That bill is a loving disgrace and it still baffles me as to why so many Americans accept that kind of poo poo instead of marching on all the bastards responsible and tearing them apart. It's straight up indecent and inhumane, putting people in debt for the rest of their miserable lives, ugh.
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Apr 15, 2018 16:27
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How much is that per vertebrae?
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Apr 15, 2018 16:27
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Sentinel Red posted:That bill is a loving disgrace and it still baffles me as to why so many Americans accept that kind of poo poo instead of marching on all the bastards responsible and tearing them apart. It's straight up indecent and inhumane, putting people in debt for the rest of their miserable lives, ugh.
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Apr 15, 2018 16:29
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Oh yeah, feel better Lowtax. No one will be able to say you don't have a spine after this, so feel free to be cowardly and take the easy way out at every turn.
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Apr 15, 2018 16:29
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Sentinel Red posted:That bill is a loving disgrace and it still baffles me as to why so many Americans accept that kind of poo poo instead of marching on all the bastards responsible and tearing them apart. It's straight up indecent and inhumane, putting people in debt for the rest of their miserable lives, ugh. I love it that each hospital in the US won't show an official price list of anything they do. So if you got the same thing done in different hospitals you would get wildy different prices, depending on how much they think they can get you to pay.
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