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Go down, then get mud.
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>GO DOWNOur hero posted:OK. >GET MUD Our hero posted:OK. Now we're getting somewhere.
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Apr 23, 2018 00:15
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TAKE SLIME, GAS, and CHIGGERS. Just wondering which of those is going to kill us.
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Apr 23, 2018 00:51
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Sounds like a well thought out plan. >TAKE SLIME Our hero posted:OK. >TAKE GAS Our hero posted:First I need an empty container. >TAKE CHIGGERS Our hero posted:OK. Curiously, the answer was "none of them". (you may also have noticed that, primitive as the parser is, it does at least recognize and accept both "GET" and "TAKE" as synonyms. This was not always a given in contemporary games) Adamant fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 01:01
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Go north and use the mud on the dragon.
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Apr 23, 2018 02:22
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I don't see how that could possibly go wrong. >GO NORTH Our hero posted:OK Oh. One slight problem with the interface is that since the room description is always present on screen and will always be updated when the screen changes, situations like these where events immediately send you to a different room mean the description of the room you went to will be on-screen for just a single frame, making it completely impossible to read. This can be a problem if you're not sure which room you were going to, since you just won't have time to read the description. >USE MUD Our hero posted:I don't know how to "USE" something Adamant fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 03:03
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If down took us to the devil last time, I say GO UP this time.
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Apr 23, 2018 03:35
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Makes sense to me. >GO UP Our hero posted:OK And apparently it makes sense to Adams too. Adamant fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 03:44
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Go down, wear mud, go east, poke dragon.
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Apr 23, 2018 04:06
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>GO DOWNOur hero posted:OK >WEAR MUD Our hero posted:I don't know how to "WEAR" something >GO EAST Our hero posted:OK Oops? >POKE DRAGON Our hero posted:I don't know how to "POKE" something
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Apr 23, 2018 04:12
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It seems that at present, the dragon will wake up and attack us whenever we enter the meadow, no matter which direction we're coming from. It might be an idea to try to figure out why this is. Of course, we can always reload to an earlier state and explore from there, there's a decent number of exits we haven't checked out yet. Our current map looks like this: 
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Apr 23, 2018 18:28
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DROP MUD?
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Apr 23, 2018 18:29
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We can always try. >DROP MUD Our hero posted:OK
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Apr 23, 2018 18:57
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I mean, that's probably going to work, but I don't know if it's extreme enough. > GET MUD > UP > EAT MUD (when that fails, > DROP MUD) > GO BACK TO THE MEADOW
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Apr 23, 2018 19:29
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> FROM MEADOW GO EAST
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Apr 23, 2018 19:34
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Let's get extreme, then. >GET MUD Our hero posted:OK >UP Our hero posted:I don't know how to "UP" something >EAT MUD Our hero posted:That's DISGUSTING! Clearly our hero is not extreme enough. >DROP MUD Our hero posted:OK >GO UP Our hero posted:OK Well that's new. >GO DOWN Our hero posted:OK >GO EAST Our hero posted:OK I think we might be on to the solution here. >GO EAST Our hero posted:OK Now what do we have here.  And yeah, the parser is too primitive to allow you to just write the direction you want to go in and nothing else. I think Adams fixes this annoyance in some of his later games. Adamant fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 20:04
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Oh thank god we must be starving. It wouldn't let us eat the mud after all. > EAT FISH
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Apr 23, 2018 20:16
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Raw fish? Well, you never know, our hero may be a sashimi chef. >EAT FISH Our hero posted:That's DISGUSTING! Or maybe not.
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Apr 23, 2018 20:22
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Swim
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gently caress the police! >SWIM Our hero posted:Not here. However, it turns out our hero is a law-abiding citizen that respects signs.
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Apr 23, 2018 21:51
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Until something happens or the list runs out SAY BUNYON SAY -BUNYON- GET AXE SAY BUNYON SAY -BUNYON- GO WEST GET DRAGON
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Apr 23, 2018 21:58
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> PUNCH DRAGON WITH AXE
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Apr 23, 2018 22:01
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Gnoman posted:Until something happens or the list runs out Let's just run through the entire thing. >SAY BUNYON Our hero posted:BUNYON >SAY -BUNYON- Our hero posted:I don't know what "-BUNYON-" is. >GET AXE Our hero posted:OK >SAY BUNYON Our hero posted:BUNYON Very interesting. >SAY -BUNYON- Our hero posted:I don't know what "-BUNYON-" is. >GO WEST Our hero posted:OK ...I don't like the sound of that. >GET DRAGON Our hero posted:Its beyond my power to do that. >PUNCH DRAGON WITH AXE Our hero posted:I don't know how to "PUNCH" something Not that we have an axe anymore. And the parser only accepts two word sentences anyway.
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Apr 23, 2018 22:15
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WAKE DRAGON SCRATCH BITES and this came out after colossal cave right? SAY XYZZY SAY PLUGH SAY PLOVER (this bit will hopefully get us killed so we can get our mud back) SAY BUNYON THROW AXE
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Apr 24, 2018 04:37
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>WAKE DRAGONOur hero posted:Nothing happens >SCRATCH BITES Our hero posted:BOY that really hit the spot! Well, you wanted to get us killed, so that worked out all right. The game did indeed come out after Colossal Cave, and took its fair share of inspiration from it, so we might as well try those spells: >SAY XYZZY Our hero posted:I don't know what "XYZZY" is. >SAY PLUGH Our hero posted:I don't know what "PLUGH" is. >SAY PLOVER Our hero posted:I don't know what "PLOVER" is. While Adams had played the game, our hero had apparently not, and is not familiar with these phrases. It was actually fairly common for games back then to recognize the word XYZZY, even if it the result was just telling you that you're in the wrong game or something along those lines, so I'm a bit surprised this game doesn't have the word in its vocabulary at all. >SAY BUNYON Our hero posted:BUNYON Hm. >THROW AXE Our hero posted:I'm not carrying ax, take inventory! And yeah, Adams seemingly can't make up his mind whether he wants to use the "axe" or "ax" spelling, the game keeps flip-flopping between them and I'm pretty sure the parser recognizes both.
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Apr 24, 2018 05:02
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TAKE INVENTORY
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Apr 24, 2018 05:03
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>TAKE INVENTORYOur hero posted:I am carrying the following: "Bits" is Adams' typo, not mine. And it looks like death is no cure for diseases. Adamant fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 05:08
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EAT CHIGGERS Up seems to be the way out of Limbo, but for the sake of curiosity let's GO WEST.
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Apr 24, 2018 05:17
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>EAT CHIGGERSOur hero posted:That's DISGUSTING! I will have to agree. >GO WEST Our hero posted:OK. Curiosity killed the hero. Should we reload back to Limbo, or to somewhere else?
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Apr 24, 2018 05:28
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Reload to pre infected bits and drop the chiggers off by the dragon?
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Apr 24, 2018 05:33
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That works.Our hero posted:I am in a sunny meadow. Visible items: >DROP CHIGGERS Our hero posted:OK Just to make sure we're all on the same page after all this reloading, here's our current map. 
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Apr 24, 2018 05:49
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> CHECK ALL KNOWN LOCATIONS FOR AXE > IF FOUND TAKE AXE > GO SOUTH FROM FOREST
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Apr 24, 2018 06:06
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Thankfully there aren't that many locations to check. >GO EAST Our hero posted:OK >GO WEST Our hero posted:OK >GO SOUTH Our hero posted:OK. >CLIMB TREE Our hero posted:I am in a top of a tall cypress tree. Visible items: >TAKE WEB Our hero posted:I'm bit by a spider >GO UP Our hero posted:OK >GO DOWN Our hero posted:OK Nope, no axes anywhere. (You may also have noticed that the only way we know of to get back to the forest is to kill ourselves and go there from Limbo.) >GO SOUTH Our hero posted:OK
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Apr 24, 2018 06:21
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Go to Limbo and go south. Also, go to the forest and go south.
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idhrendur posted:Go to Limbo and go south. All right. >GO EAST Our hero posted:OK >GO SOUTH Our hero posted:OK. >CLIMB TREE Our hero posted:I am in a top of a tall cypress tree. Visible items: >TAKE WEB Our hero posted:I'm bit by a spider I think I'll take the liberty of saving here. >SAVE GAME Our hero posted:OK. >GO SOUTH Our hero posted:OK. Now who could've ever guessed that. Might as well show off how the save/load function works. >YES Our hero posted:Want to restore a previously saved game? >YES Scott Adams posted:This program will allow you to have an "Adventure" without ever leaving your armchair! you will find yourself in a strange new world. You will be able to LOOK AT, PICK-UP and otherwise MANIPULATE the objects you find there. You will also be able to TRAVEL from location to location. I will be your puppet in this Adventure. You command me with 2 word ENGLISH sentences. I've over 120 word vocabulary so if a word doesn't work, try another! It feels oddly unnecessary to show this message when you reload a saved game. Pressing enter takes us to whatever screen we were on when we used the SAVE GAME command. It should also be pointed out that there's no LOAD GAME function in the game at all. The only way to load a saved game is from the welcome screen that appears when you start the game, and the only way to return there while a game is in progress is to go to Hell. Dying in any other way just sends you to Limbo. Our hero posted:I am in a large misty room with strange idhrendur posted:Also, go to the forest and go south. We tried that last time, but if you want us to try again, sure. >GO UP Our hero posted:OK >GO DOWN Our hero posted:OK >GO SOUTH Our hero posted:OK Adamant fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Is examining a thing? I don’t recall us EXAming anything. You will let us know if we hit an unwinnable state, right? I’m a bit worried about them chigger bites and us Bunyoning our ax(e) into the ether...
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Apr 24, 2018 15:08
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snograt posted:Is examining a thing? I don’t recall us EXAming anything. We've yet to try the command. snograt posted:You will let us know if we hit an unwinnable state, right? I’m a bit worried about them chigger bites and us Bunyoning our ax(e) into the ether... As I said in the OP, Adamant posted:Adventureland has a lot of dead man walking situations where we'll be completely unable to finish the game, and it doesn't always telegraph them all that well. I'm not going to prevent us from entering these, so if you suspect we might have screwed ourselves irreparably over, go ahead and suggest a reload to a specific earlier state. If we've been making a lot of progress since that state, just mention what you want us to redo, and I'll take care of that in one quick update. Experimentation, as well as suspecting and recognizing potential unwinnable states is such a big part of adventure games from this era that having someone sit there and yell out every time we did something that screwed us over just ruins the entire experience. That said, I'm of course not going to let you sit there banging your heads against a puzzle for ages when I know there's no way to solve it. We're going to beat this game.
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My apologies, my skim-reading has let me down again! I could talk about the early years of IF for days. Scott Adams and (to me) superior adventure specialists like Infocom, Magnetic Scrolls, Artic, and my personal favourites, Level 9. But let’s not ruin the narrative thread. Onwards... EXAmine mud (wherever we left it) EXA chiggers EXA bites (probably fruitless) Uh, examine a tree, maybe? We’re a bit lacking in inventory.
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Apr 24, 2018 16:11
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The mud is in Limbo, so back there we go. >GO EAST Our hero posted:OK >GO SOUTH Our hero posted:OK. >CLIMB TREE Our hero posted:I am in a top of a tall cypress tree. Visible items: >TAKE WEB Our hero posted:I'm bit by a spider >EXA MUD Our hero posted:I am in a large misty room with strange Huh. >GO UP Our hero posted:OK >GO DOWN Our hero posted:OK Uh-oh. >GO EAST Our hero posted:OK >EXA CHIGGERS Our hero posted:I am in a sunny meadow. Visible items: >EXA BITES Our hero posted:I am in a sunny meadow. Visible items: You didn't say which tree to EXA, so I'll just go with the one in the swamp, since it's closer. >GO SOUTH Our hero posted:OK. >EXA TREE Our hero posted:I am in a dismal swamp. Visible items: This should tell us something new.
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Oh dear. I think it just tells us that examine is the same as look. Or I’m mistaken that Adams’ parser only looked at the first three letters? I never played Adventureland but I did play some of his later works - the name Questprobe still makes me clench my teeth involuntarily. EXAM the keys, just to rule out the possibility, and to give us something to do before we succumb to chiggerlaria again.
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