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thrawn527 posted:Keep in mind, the spoilers say he’s in it for like a minute. A big reveal as a hologram. So don’t go expecting him to be the big villain of the whole movie. oh so it's just the equivalent of marvel post-credits scene promising something interesting 3 years from now
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May 11, 2018 21:51
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Nodosaur posted:we already know what's next for Darth Maul though ehh, establishing that he's still alive for the normies who don't pay attention to the comics or cartoons wouldn't be done for no reason, they've clearly got plans to do something with him movie-wise
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May 11, 2018 22:31
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:force awakens made 900 million dollars, last jedi made 600 million, rogue one made 500 million, it feels so hard to tell if the air is coming out of the star wars brand and this is a clear downward trend (that will probably continue with this movie) or if each thing is an individual case and none of it means anything particular, and it feels like this movie isn't a test case either. it's possible that TFA was the outlier because it got to ride the hype of 'first star wars in over a decade' and future films will stick around what TLJ and rogue one did now that it's a known quantity that we'll keep getting at bare minimum a new star wars every year
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May 12, 2018 08:22
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it might just be because it's being presented in a bullet point list of what happens but man the plot of this sounds kinda...scattered
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May 13, 2018 02:45
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Calaveron posted:To be fair you could probably do the same with empire strikes back and make it also seem scattered yeah, it's possible it just reads that way because i'm already expecting the movie to be a mess gotta wait for more reviews to know for sure i guess
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May 13, 2018 05:05
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rotj would be the real fun one to see internet reactions to
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May 13, 2018 05:24
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precision posted:Yeah but I was expecting the movie to get eviscerated. it's a star wars, that wasn't going to happen
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May 16, 2018 01:40
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Robot Style posted:After he didn't really do anything in the movie, one of the fan theories about the character was that he would be revealed to be Luke's mom in diguise in Episode 6. this is incredible
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May 18, 2018 16:24
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phasma would get more to do in a theoretical movie series where they actually did anything with finn's first order background
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May 18, 2018 17:15
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mastershakeman posted:I'm not even sure why John boyega/Finn are even in the movies . someone had the neat idea of having a protagonist who was originally on the side of the baddies and wants to redeem themselves for the terrible things they were a part of but disney needed it watered down to avoid staining his 'likability' to the point that the writers had nothing left to do with him that's my theory at least
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May 18, 2018 18:06
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kylo ren is the only new character in tfa, everyone else is a paper thin nothing even by star wars pulpy standards
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May 18, 2018 18:41
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Taintrunner posted:hint: it's because a black man being the star of a disney property is a terrifying prospect for them racism isn't the whole story here though, it's not like tfa rey is any better than tfa finn if anything the problem might be that they care too much about maintaining the image of diversity; ren the white man gets to be nuanced and flawed and passionate but rey and finn get a real kid's gloves treatment where they're just bland and mildly snarky because their depictions will get put under a microscope
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May 18, 2018 19:04
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no one shows romantic interest in tfa, really. SMG had it right when he compared it to sonic of all things luckily TLJ escapes that and has dad luke walk in on the kids about to kiss and ruining the moment with some 'you are not to see that boy anymore!' dadding
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May 18, 2018 22:47
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Wheat Loaf posted:I felt like that was in the finished movie anyway. yeah i never got the vibe that finn was straight up bailing on everyone at the start of TLJ
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May 19, 2018 00:12
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cuntman.net posted:the real reason poe is a lovely character isnt because he makes bad decisions or whatever its because he is never in any threat in his space battle scenes and they are completely boring it's because focus testing denied him the death he was fated for after helping finn out at the start of tfa poe only exists as a person for about 20 minutes of film, everything after he's a soulless husk imitating one
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May 20, 2018 03:27
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Nah they added him back in pretty early in production, it wasn't done in last minute reshoots. you wouldn't know it from watching the finished product though
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May 20, 2018 12:14
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Taintrunner posted:It’s very bad and a large part of why the Disney Wars are so bad. they're more a symptom than a cause imo
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May 24, 2018 20:00
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galagazombie posted:It's also part of the whole problem with these endless origin movies where literally everything Character X related from the original happened over this one weekend. Did we need to know the exiting origin of the Falcons GPS? It also leads to a problem I have that I don't really have a word or phrase to describe, but essentially it's "everything is important". the Falcon can't just have a wonky computer like everything else on the ship is wonky, It has to be the end result of some character arc and have "significance". Han can't just be calling the Falcon "baby" like people call their cars, no it's because now the ship is literally a girl robot. It makes the movie feel, I don't know, unreal?, ungrounded?, inhuman? Every line of dialogue from the original is taken so incredibly literally it's like the writers don't understand english. it's the same kind of unearned importance and poring over details that leads to every background character in the OT and their mom having a backstory book in the old EU it was dreadfully clear that disney was swallowing their own kool-aid about the importance of han solo's legend (even as a young pre-ANH dipshit) when lord and miller were chastised for treating the movie like a comedy. so everything that happens in this movie has to tie into the already existing legend by retroactively inflating the importance of every incidental detail
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May 25, 2018 13:36
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sure. TLJ wasn't really that different from any other Star Wars movies but a lot (certainly not all, of course) of the fan criticism (as opposed to more general criticism) was that it was too different. this is deffo true, nothing in TLJ is all that out there for the kind of genre movie star wars has always been. the old broken hero gets a redemption and dies inspiring the next generation, the second part of the trilogy is the low point for the heroes, the charismatic antagonist second-in-command kills his superior to usurp his role. TLJ was just uninterested in the mysteries TFA set up and had people speculating on for two years, which will be divisive for people depending on how much they gave a poo poo about those mysteries beforehand
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May 26, 2018 18:36
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" angle) and it's the same as the prequels. I think loads of people hated the prequels because they weren't the movies they were expecting. In TLJ's case it had two years of YouTube Star Wars Experts theorising about it, which none of the previous movies ever did.
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Zoran posted:The main problem is that those mysteries were the only things in TFA that were remotely interesting. that's kind of an interesting conundrum: should a direct sequel still feel beholden to what the previous movie set up if what the previous movie set up was pretty much crap
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May 26, 2018 19:49
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millions of dollars spent to pat angry star wars nerds on the tummy and tell them 'no you were right all along, you know han solo better than big bad george lucas'
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May 27, 2018 18:50
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adam driver is better than cool, he's hot
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May 27, 2018 23:47
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KaptainKrunk posted:late-stage capitalist media empire makes...bad movies? worse than bad, it makes forgettable movies
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Jun 19, 2018 22:35
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IX will do fine unless your expectations are for it to hit TFA money, cause I think they're not getting that lighting in a bottle twice unless they're willing to stop making star wars long enough for people to miss it
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Jun 19, 2018 22:41
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cuntman.net posted:the funny thing is episode 8 seems to respect the prequels more than it respects episode 7 good
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Jul 6, 2018 22:31
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Jose Oquendo posted:Is anyone really wondering if he’s going to be in episode 9? no but i don't really wonder anything about episode 9 at this point
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Aug 5, 2018 01:32
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Preston Waters posted:And this is what it all boils down to. Almost every complaint about TLJ begins and ends with the fact that it wasn't exactly what the person had in mind. Tough poo poo, time to grow up. what's truly impressive about TLJ though is how people with vastly different expectations still managed to be equally disappointed in it together it's like a movie made out of the ethos of modern american centrism. you try to give everyone a little bit to like but you just end up giving everyone a little bit to hate
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Aug 14, 2018 20:35
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Preston Waters posted:If only everyone had the brain of a small child who likes backflips and poopy jokes wow, check out this guy who thinks he's too good for backflips and poop jokes
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Aug 16, 2018 20:52
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Wheat Loaf posted:I recall Hasbro saying that their licensed toy sales were down across the board last year but their in-house brands did better than expected. That said, I don't know how the toy business works, so whatever. I imagine kids are more into iPhones than toys in any event now and that's where they've missed a trick; they haven't rolled out a really popular Star Wars app. That would keep people enthused. galaxy of heroes makes good money from what i recall hearing, even though it's pretty crap even by 'licensed gacha phone game' standards e: just checked, it's currently at #17 on the android store's 'top grossing' chart, that ain't nothing to sneeze at Brother Entropy fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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Aug 16, 2018 21:29
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Wheat Loaf posted:The main thread had around 180 new posts when I looked this morning. It now has about 220 new posts and I can't decide if it's worth it or not. it's almost entirely people loving with jivjov because he's really easy to rile up by not caring about the idea of 'canon', up to you if that sounds like a good time
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Aug 23, 2018 18:24
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twists are supposed to be joyful?
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Aug 25, 2018 22:25
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Timeless Appeal posted:I mean yes, but more I'm saying that your point that there are more jedis than the Skywalkers is pretty pedantic when the only ones that matter are basically father figures for Skywalkers in some way. Yoda, Jinn, and Obi-Wan are all part of the family at the end of the day. The rest of the Jedi existed to establish the world of the prequels than be actual characters on their own. Using them to refute Bushisms' point makes no sense. what does any of that have to do with the claim that rey proves that anyone can be a wizard even if your parents were muggles
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Aug 28, 2018 03:15
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:why do they keep adding characters?? the cast is already unwieldy as it is! is it though? i've got plenty of problems with the sequels so far but the cast isn't all that bloated, especially now with all the OT big names gone
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Aug 29, 2018 02:06
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the love child thing sounds weird and unexpected and liable to piss people off so naturally i'm insanely skeptical that disney would go along with it
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Sep 16, 2018 22:47
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the last jedi pissed some people off but there's not really anything in there that's all that weird or surprising. all that's really unexpected is that it had no interest in building off speculation-heavy narrative hooks that TFA set up
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Sep 16, 2018 23:08
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Preston Waters posted:this makes me believe it's all bullshit is that really all that unbelievable?
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Dec 3, 2018 22:33
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ecureuilmatrix posted:That justification was argued in-universe, and even there was shot down: man it's really hard to picture this dialog coming out of harrison ford's solo
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Jan 23, 2019 20:55
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No Mods No Masters posted:Harrison ford would veto having to remember that many words he'd be right to, it's smarmy but way too verbose to sound like han
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CelticPredator posted:How do you write a Kaiju monster fight movie without monster fight smack downs you can, just make sure it's monster fight smackdowns and not slave soldier fight smackdowns
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