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OK, so you might've heard that a lot of children are being murdered all the time in America. Schools now have to come up with ways to prepare kids for the eventuality that a guy with a gun will come into their classroom and try to murder them. Some people, myself included, think that's incredibly hosed up and we need to stop it. Other people really love owning guns, they love owning guns and aren't particularly bothered by the fact that an entire generation of children is growing up fearing that any day they could just be murdered in school. So far it's seemed like an intractable solution. On the one hand, most of the gun control measures that have been suggested are really stupid. A ban on folding stocks, not letting people on the terrorist watch list buy guns, whatever the hell people mean by "expanded background checks" I don't think it means anything, I think it's just a good sounding thing people say. Those idea range from ineffective to terrible and ineffective. But on the other had, the gun enthusiasts just love owning guns so goddamn much, that of course they'll never suggest anything that could possibly get between them and their beautiful guns. So this is where I come in. I have formulated a quite simple solution that will please everyone. A way to end mass shootings(or at the very least drastically reduce the number of fatalities) that let's the gun owners continue owning guns, which is just as important to them as not dying is to children. Here's my solution: A total ban on owning, buying, selling, manufacturing, and importing semi-automatic guns. That's solves it. Gun owners can still buy all the guns they want, they can fill their houses with revolvers, that kind of rifle where you have to pull the thing back after each shot, shotguns, and black powder cannons. It also completely does away with the dumb and ineffective bans on purely aesthetic features, like folding stocks, pistol grips, My Little Pony stickers, etc. that gun owners love to dress up their guns with. But, and this is just as important as maintaining gun owner's rights to own lots of guns, it will drastically curtail the number of children murdered. No longer will some guy be able to walk into a school and spray bullets everywhere. Regular guns shoot way slower than semi-automatic guns, so mass shooters will be way less effective. Some dude who has to crack open his shotgun and put in another round after each shot will be way less deadly than the current mass shooters we have now. Another benefit of my plan is that it'll cut down on non-mass shootings. Which is to say, the regular day-to-day shootings that don't even get reported on the news because as a society we just accept that multiple people will be murdered with guns every day. The most common weapon used in a murder is a semi-automatic pistol. Sorry, murderers, those won't be allowed. I'm imaging that my excellent compromise ban will be phased in over time. First thing, importing, selling, buying or manufacturing semi-automatic guns is made illegal. You can still own them, but you can't do any of those gerunds I just listed to em. Then there will be a buy-back program. For a year or so, gun owners can turn their semi-automatic guns to the government to be destroyed. In return for which they will receive fair market value for the gun. During this time museums and what not will also be able to apply for waivers for guns of historical value. I'm not sure exactly how that would be handled but there's guns in museums in countries that don't allow guns, so clearly there's a way to do it. After the buy-back program has ended, that's it, possessing a semi-automatic gun is also illegal. But here's the important part, there won't be any cops going house to house kicking down doors. If you take your gun out in public, or the cops find your gun because they're searching your house for some other reason, then the gun will be confiscated and destroyed. The owner will receive no compensation, and will also, I dunno, have to spend a day watching those cell phone videos kids have made during school shootings. So there you have it. My plan solves everyone's problems and there are no legitimate criticisms to be made against it. Call your Congressperson now and demand they enact Guy Goodbody's excellent gun control solution today!
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i just read a news story about a pistol that was bought in a buy back program and then a few years later the cops murdered someone and dropped the pistol by the corpse and said "see? he had a gun!"
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May 18, 2018 18:46
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You do know revolvers are technically semi-automatic right (well double-actions)? You do know that more people are killed with revolvers than any other weapon right?
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May 18, 2018 18:50
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i just bought a new kalasnikov online because of this thread
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May 18, 2018 18:51
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Can't wait to lease a gun
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May 18, 2018 18:52
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lets all just put our guns against our own heads and pull the trigger gun problem solved
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May 18, 2018 18:52
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EvilMerlin posted:You do know revolvers are technically semi-automatic right (well double-actions)? I guess I wasn't clear, my plan is to ban all semi-automatic guns. That includes double action revolvers, because they're semi-automatic. It doesn't include the cool old kind where you gotta put your palm over it to cock back the hammer after each shot like in the westerns.
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May 18, 2018 18:52
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dont ban guns. ban gun owners
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May 18, 2018 18:53
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If I had literally one genie wish it would be to render all gunpowder in the world inert and that we can never make any more
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May 18, 2018 18:54
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I think we should have a law preventing people from pulling the trigger more than two times a minute.
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May 18, 2018 18:54
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:lets all just put our guns against our own heads and pull the trigger gun problem solved jimmyjams posted:dont ban guns. ban gun owners sure okay posted:If I had literally one genie wish it would be to render all gunpowder in the world inert and that we can never make any more I'm not opposed to any of these, but I think my mild compromise plan is better because it allows gun owners to continue being alive and doesn't require magic
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May 18, 2018 18:55
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If we get rid of schools then there can be no more school shootings.
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May 18, 2018 18:56
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sure okay posted:If I had literally one genie wish it would be to render all gunpowder in the world inert and that we can never make any more quote:The Office of Naval Research (ONR) demonstrates the Navy's electromagnetic railgun initial rep-rate fires of multi-shot salvos at the Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division. The revolutionary railgun relies on a massive electrical pulse, rather than gunpowder or other chemical propellants, to launch projectiles at distances over 100 nautical miles – and at speeds that exceed Mach 6.
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May 18, 2018 18:57
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genies get 3 wishes and the 2nd wish would be no more electricity bitch
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May 18, 2018 18:57
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yeah I mean if something is illegal that means nobody is ever going to attempt to do it that's how laws work
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May 18, 2018 18:58
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yeah the navy is stoked 
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May 18, 2018 18:58
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Guy Goodbody posted:
Why not? It worked really, really well with getting rid of the drug problem.
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May 18, 2018 19:00
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psychos should start doing their mass shootings at gun shows instead of schools in the aftermath all the idiots would scratch their heads and go "wait... guns... maybe... bad?" gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 19:05 on May 18, 2018 |
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May 18, 2018 19:01
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:genies get 3 wishes and the 2nd wish would be no more electricity bitch The first repeating rifle in military service was an air gun with a 20-shot magazine it was introduced into military service in 1780
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May 18, 2018 19:02
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Halser posted:yeah I mean if something is illegal that means nobody is ever going to attempt to do it that's how laws work Ahh but what you are forgetting is that the USA is the largest exporter of small-arms in the world. Once it is no longer legal to manufacture semi-automatic guns in the US, that will drastically reduce the number of semi-automatic guns on the black market world wide. It will be far, far more expensive and difficult to get one, in the US especially. Of course it'll take awhile for the supply to dry up, but everything takes time. My plan isn't a magic bullet that will immediately end the problem, like the non-magic bullets which immediately ended the lives of several children this morning. But it's still a good idea.
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May 18, 2018 19:02
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LGD posted:The first repeating rifle in military service was an air gun with a 20-shot magazine 3rd wish no more air
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May 18, 2018 19:02
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Guy Goodbody posted:Ahh but what you are forgetting is that the USA is the largest exporter of small-arms in the world. Once it is no longer legal to manufacture semi-automatic guns in the US, that will drastically reduce the number of semi-automatic guns on the black market world wide. It will be far, far more expensive and difficult to get one, in the US especially. Of course it'll take awhile for the supply to dry up, but everything takes time. My plan isn't a magic bullet that will immediately end the problem, like the non-magic bullets which immediately ended the lives of several children this morning. But it's still a good idea. why wouldn't production just ramp up in other places to fill the resulting gap in demand? and now the USA has even less control because the foreign manufacturers don't give that much of a poo poo about US specific regulations and laws so forget about anything fancy like electronic locks on triggers and whatnot
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May 18, 2018 19:03
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I was expecting a bunch of pictures of oddly shaped rocks and landscapes. Voted 1
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EugeneJ posted:Can't wait to lease a gun Billion dollar idea here and I'm stealing it, thanks!
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May 18, 2018 19:03
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Good plan, Guy Goodbody. However for any plan to work, a critical mass of Anericans will have to think in the long term. It would take many years for a lot of the already circulating automatic etc. weapons to be confiscated, handed in in gun amnestys, etc. Sadly, few preople think in the long term. And gun nuts who want to keep their nass murder weapons and buy even more are a strong voting bliock. And paranoia about the 'slippery slope' of wventually supposedly banning all guns is easy to generate in Trump's post-truth nation. The "if you ban such and such type of gun, only criminals will have them" ignores the fact that many non-criminal gun owners become criminals. With guns. Anyway that's my 2c worth. I'm glad I don't live in the U.S. and have finished school.
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May 18, 2018 19:05
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MightyJoe36 posted:Why not? It worked really, really well with getting rid of the drug problem. Drugs are very easy to manufacture, and literally addictive. Nobody needs to buy a bag of gun every week just to function. And even if they do, this is just one part of the brilliance of my plan, they'll still be able to! Gun owners will still be able to buy guns after my ban goes into effect! They'll be able to get rifles and shotguns and black powder cannons, and have all the gun fun which they value just as highly as parent value the lives of their children. It's win-win!
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May 18, 2018 19:05
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Moridin920 posted:why wouldn't production just ramp up in other places to fill the resulting gap in demand? Yes, let's forget about electric locks! That's exactly one of the dumb half-measures that derails any attempts at real, effective gun control.
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May 18, 2018 19:06
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yes, let's forget about electric locks! That's exactly one of the dumb half-measures that derails any attempts at real, effective gun control. don't fixate on the electronic locks I just mean that if the US eliminates the industry domestically we're going to get a flood of piece of poo poo guns like the Taurus that fires when you shake it slightly manufacture at home at least means our gov't has a significant influence on the industry should they care to use it ever Kinda like how when you have an insane war on drugs people have to get lovely drugs laced with fentanyl or fake pharmaceuticals filled with lead because you haven't actually curtailed demand whatsoever
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May 18, 2018 19:07
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how about when a "news" channel or broadcast says or implies that gun control means the government is gonna take your guns away they get a lot of poo poo for it instead of nothing
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May 18, 2018 19:09
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The best thing is, my upgraded M53 will be done just in time for range day. Was able to get almost all original German parts for it. As for people claiming "circulation of automatic weapons". Thats a bunch of horseshit. There are a very limited number of legal automatic weapons on the market and they are nearly impossible to purchase. As for illegal automatic weapons? They are used in something like 0.01% of all gun crime in the US.
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May 18, 2018 19:10
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gary oldmans diary posted:how about when a "news" channel or broadcast says or implies that gun control means the government is gonna take your guns away they get a lot of poo poo for it instead of nothing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine
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Moridin920 posted:don't fixate on the electronic locks I just mean that if the US eliminates the industry domestically we're going to get a flood of piece of poo poo guns like the Taurus that fires when you shake it slightly But that influence on the industry didn't prevent the dead children this morning. Illegally importing foreign-made guns will be massively more expensive and more onerous than just buying a gun is now. It'll drastically reduce the availability and ease of access to guns. If some gun owner wants to illegally import a lovely gun and it misfires and blows up his hands, well, uh, that's actually a really good thing to happen to that hypothetical guy who I hate, imo.
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May 18, 2018 19:10
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Register all the guns. Have an unregistered gun? Congratulations, you're now a criminal. Won't help with mass shootings but will help with criminals who use straw purchases to acquire legally manufactured firearms.
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May 18, 2018 19:11
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EvilMerlin posted:You do know revolvers are technically semi-automatic right (well double-actions)? Most murders are domestic violence, and probably not a lot can be done to prevent a lot of them. However, banning weapons that shoot a whole lot of bullets fast will decrease deaths in berzerker killings, because killing a lot of people with an easily obtainable weapon becomes harder. Quibbling about definitions does not change this.
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May 18, 2018 19:11
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:3rd wish no more air congrats you just solved all of Earth's problems
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May 18, 2018 19:11
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relocate all schools to amish country
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May 18, 2018 19:11
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gary oldmans diary posted:how about when a "news" channel or broadcast says or implies that gun control means the government is gonna take your guns away they get a lot of poo poo for it instead of nothing IMO, the problem there lies with the government for not actually wanting to take your guns away
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May 18, 2018 19:12
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BigBadSteve posted:The "if you ban such and such type of gun, only criminals will have them" ignores the fact that many non-criminal gun owners become criminals. With guns. Evidence of this? The actual truth and fact is that VERY VERY few lawful gun owners become criminals. Does it happen? Sure. But it is very rare. Would love to see where you are pulling your numbers.
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May 18, 2018 19:12
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eSports Chaebol posted:yeah the navy is stoked 
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EvilMerlin posted:Evidence of this? They have a gun that's now illegal. He doesn't need to cite anything.
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