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I get that there's a bit of "haha punch the fash" and "gently caress 'em, they deserve it" going on here, but just to remind you all that actual street violence is not fun and games, and if you're seriously considering it, you'd best learn to do it with discipline, awareness and restraint if you're not going to gently caress not only yourself up but also people and causes you care about. E: uh, new page, uhhh, section 229 from the Criminal Justice Act pertains to the assessment of dangerous persons which seems somewhat relevant given the context? Indeterminacy fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Tenebrais posted:Hitler was a vegetarian. There is evidence to suggest that was a lie created by Goebbels for propaganda purposes, with the biggest evidence given by Hitlers own chef who said Hitlers favorite foods included Pigeon. He definitely ate significantly less meat and fish than most other people though, especially in the later war years.
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Well thank god us stupid continental Europeans can't loving understand English or that brilliant plan would be hosed. 
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Jul 1, 2018 09:52
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Cannot be overstated how loving awful and woefully out of depth our government are. It's super rad.
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Jul 1, 2018 10:23
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Looking forward to what happens when the French and Germans compare their versions and find a bunch of differences.
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Jul 1, 2018 10:24
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This popped up on my timeline. Danny Dyer: Defender of Benefit Claimants https://twitter.com/sophie_gadd/status/680081622901899264 I clearly misjudged him.
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Oh great, John loving Bolton's doing the rounds in London, I'm sure that will help calm the EU's worries. I hope Trump's got some really great trade stuff planned for the UK, because if his UK trip and Putin date go off like I imagine, I wouldn't be surprised to hear they gently caress the brexit negotiations over irreparably, in addition to whatever other damage they cause From May's perspective, I think the people telling her to toughen up and stop making concessions begin to sound pretty persuasive, she'd definitely be helped at home by some news that the EU was 'forced to concede' something. Even so, traveling to different capitals with the express purpose to undermine the negotiations--why the gently caress is this still a thing? She's been doing Brexit for two loving years, does she still believe that anyone in a national government looks at the disaster and thinks "yeah sure, I'm absolutely down with grabbing the responsibility for this from Barnier, why the gently caress wouldn't I?"
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forkboy84 posted:This popped up on my timeline. Danny Dyer: Defender of Benefit Claimants That's actually pretty insightful
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Jul 1, 2018 10:34
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:That's actually pretty insightful Yeah that's good and I'll be using it. Definitely need to then add on that it's from Danny Dyer's autobiography
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Jul 1, 2018 11:03
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forkboy84 posted:This popped up on my timeline. Danny Dyer: Defender of Benefit Claimants As much as I want to believe he wrote his own autobiography I can't help but think that's his ghost writer slyly pushing in some lefty propaganda.
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Jul 1, 2018 11:06
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Man injured after secret 'upskirting' camera in his shoe explodes I think we can all agree that foot injury is a terrible thing and that we should all extend our sympathies to this man in his hour of need
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Man injured after secret 'upskirting' camera in his shoe explodes May: *trumpishly* there are good people on both sides
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Jul 1, 2018 11:16
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Rarity posted:As much as I want to believe he wrote his own autobiography I can't help but think that's his ghost writer slyly pushing in some lefty propaganda. Why? He's working class, still mostly hangs around with working class people, and this is a pretty common feeling among people who are working class who actually pay attention to things.
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Firos posted:May: *trumpishly* there are good people on both sides What if the shoe was on the other foot? What then?
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WhatEvil posted:Thanks for the tip, I might try it out. Are you also taking antihistamines still? I’ve started using one a day non brand tablets, the simple Tesco ones that used to not work in the slightest, as the effects of the injection are running out (about two months) but I’m feeling fine.
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Nice unbiased BBC interview with Corbz. Why won't you buy guns? Why were you not here for the Brexit march, you commie bastard?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Why? He's working class, still mostly hangs around with working class people, and this is a pretty common feeling among people who are working class who actually pay attention to things. Yea. To quote a (badly translated by me) old swedish 70's song the Capital raises your rent costs, the State your rent support, that way you can cheat a bit around iron-clad wage laws, and even pay you lower wages than prices for food and for rents, because the State is only to happy to help when living costs have become unaffordable It's not a new fresh thought, but Dyer says it in an admirably accessible way
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Indeterminacy posted:I get that there's a bit of "haha punch the fash" and "gently caress 'em, they deserve it" going on here, but just to remind you all that actual street violence is not fun and games, and if you're seriously considering it, you'd best learn to do it with discipline, awareness and restraint if you're not going to gently caress not only yourself up but also people and causes you care about. The secret to punching the Nazi, is to not punch the man who is not a Nazi.
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https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/1013344593209937920?s=21 Cowardception.
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He's clearly learned the recent lesson that you don't have to actually rebel to be seen as a rebel. You just have to make noise and the papers will line up to suck you off.
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Jul 1, 2018 12:40
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So what do we think of this new Mexican President who's likely to be elected? I see the papers calling him left-wing and some comments from Corbyn on Twitter, but what's he all about? Seems like a pretty significant step for global socialism for a country like Mexico to be making him President, but how much power will he actually have? In other news the Tories are considering giving renters minimum three-year contracts. I'm detecting a pattern here of them moving slightly to the left with each policy announcement and Labour immediately calling it not good enough. It's nice.
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jabby posted:So what do we think of this new Mexican President who's likely to be elected? I see the papers calling him left-wing and some comments from Corbyn on Twitter, but what's he all about? Seems like a pretty significant step for global socialism for a country like Mexico to be making him President, but how much power will he actually have? 3 years minimum tenancy...with right to buy private rented property after 2 
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Jul 1, 2018 12:53
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Firos posted:3 years minimum tenancy...with right to buy private rented property after 2 Labour are quite rightly saying that minimum tenancy is meaningless when landlords can force people out by jacking up the rent. It will be fun to see the Tories piss off all the buy-to-let scum in exchange for absolutely no extra votes while making Labour's policies seem more and more mainstream though.
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Not Operator posted:He's clearly learned the recent lesson that you don't have to actually rebel to be seen as a rebel. You just have to make noise and the papers will line up to suck you off. Or he got absolute no one in the Tory ranks supporting him in private. He prob expected to get a few hushed whispers of 'Go on Gove, we are right behind you'.
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jabby posted:So what do we think of this new Mexican President who's likely to be elected? I see the papers calling him left-wing and some comments from Corbyn on Twitter, but what's he all about? Seems like a pretty significant step for global socialism for a country like Mexico to be making him President, but how much power will he actually have? Sadly not open for comments, otherwise the usual Tories who hang out at there would be screaming how unfair it was that the tenants aren't tied in for 3 years too. And that a rented property isn't your home, it's my flat, now shut up and be grateful I'm letting you live there.
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I expect this to happen just a few scant decades after the promised ban on letting fees comes into effect
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happyhippy posted:Or he got absolute no one in the Tory ranks supporting him in private. That would be interesting, since he was basically expressing the standard hard-Brexiteer stance, and they’ve so far come across as the more influential faction.
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jabby posted:Labour are quite rightly saying that minimum tenancy is meaningless when landlords can force people out by jacking up the rent. I don't think you can change the rent mid-contract? So it's a minimum tenancy at X pounds.
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Jul 1, 2018 13:20
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Had shin cup. Was good. That is all.
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jabby posted:So what do we think of this new Mexican President who's likely to be elected? I see the papers calling him left-wing and some comments from Corbyn on Twitter, but what's he all about? Seems like a pretty significant step for global socialism for a country like Mexico to be making him President, but how much power will he actually have? Ah, I see you're not familiar with the Latin-American Populist Left Wing (tm). It's not really gonna be socialism, far from it, but it's gonna be "not neoliberalism" which is good enough on its own. The best commentary of a ruling party in Latam you can aspire to is "okay they steal a lot of money but they also do some things for the people". jabby posted:In other news the Tories are considering giving renters minimum three-year contracts. I'm detecting a pattern here of them moving slightly to the left with each policy announcement and Labour immediately calling it not good enough. It's nice. Won't this mean, however, that landlords will ask for lots of guarantees from their potential rentees (e.g. someone who owns a house in the same city must act as your solidary guarantor, you have to present last 3 months of payslips, must have been working in the same job for the last 6 months, must earn a minimum salary, etc), and do their best to avoid people on benefits and such? I'm not pulling this out of my hat, this is literally what happens in my home country where rentees have more rights and protections - landlords end up being super cautious and turn people away if they're not sure.
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Surprised no one's picked on one of the new forum smileys yet
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:From May's perspective, I think the people telling her to toughen up and stop making concessions begin to sound pretty persuasive, she'd definitely be helped at home by some news that the EU was 'forced to concede' something. Even so, traveling to different capitals with the express purpose to undermine the negotiations--why the gently caress is this still a thing? She's been doing Brexit for two loving years, does she still believe that anyone in a national government looks at the disaster and thinks "yeah sure, I'm absolutely down with grabbing the responsibility for this from Barnier, why the gently caress wouldn't I?" It's a big show for the people back home, acting like the government is trying so hard to make Brexit work, same as Cameron Goes To Europe before the referendum They're just blagging it, there's absolutely no way they can get anything close to a negotiated deal - if that chance existed ever existed. So they're just going through the motions, pretending like they've been successful and there's a real plan but at the last minute the hated EU has stymied the whole thing. Now plucky May will travel to petition the individual nations, to conduct diplomacy and negotiation the old fashioned way, without BRUSSELS interfering as always So it's theatre to cover their own arses, and it also plays up to the whole "blame the EU/everyone would be better off out" angle. It's like the historic Florence speech, which was nothing but is always talked about like it was something important. She doesn't actually need concessions - if anything that would be worse, because then she'd get what she wanted but oh look, the result is still bad, great job? It's better propaganda to have the the EU saying no and rejecting all the UK's "efforts". She'll say the individual nations sounded positive about the UK's Real Deal (so you know it's good and a thing that exists) but it's the bad EU that won't accept it
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Pochoclo posted:The best commentary of a ruling party in Latam you can aspire to is "okay they steal a lot of money but they also do some things for the people".
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Rarity posted:Surprised no one's picked on one of the new forum smileys yet No "sickos" shirt? Ha ha ha no. / 
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Miftan posted:I don't think you can change the rent mid-contract? So it's a minimum tenancy at X pounds. I think it depends on the contract. As far as I know you can have a contract that includes regular 'reviews' of the rent with the opportunity for the Landlord to jack it up as much as they want. Pochoclo posted:Won't this mean, however, that landlords will ask for lots of guarantees from their potential rentees (e.g. someone who owns a house in the same city must act as your solidary guarantor, you have to present last 3 months of payslips, must have been working in the same job for the last 6 months, must earn a minimum salary, etc), and do their best to avoid people on benefits and such? They already do all this just to put you on a six month tenancy, it's a huge problem. Really they use the same argument of 'we'll just stop renting to people' against every type of reform. The reality is that they already only rent to the safest possible highest profit-margin tenants, and they always will. They also won't let properties sit empty, so they'll have to either rent to someone or sell up.
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/1013344593209937920?s=21 Where are they getting ‘May has the EU cornered’ from?
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From the same imaginations that think that Theresa May's meaningless speeches over the past two years have been important in some way.
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