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fsif posted:If I'm the Bucs I move on from Winston. I mean, I would have never selected him in the first place, but from a vile, detached, calculated, bottom-line perspective, his level of talent is not nearly enough to make up for the PR hits they constantly take for the horrible things he does. What? That's not even close to true. A young even average QB is worth way more for the bottom line than any PR hits Winston has caused.
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It was negotiated. Jameis gets three games, agrees to not appeal or go to court. Edit: also a good idea by Winston, his salary is only 700k this year where as next year it balloons. Better to lose 3 checks at a lower rate than appeal, delay, sue and end up getting docked 6 at a couple million each. swickles fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 28, 2018 |
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They picked up his fifth year option already, right? Which would be through the 2019 season I believe. So yeah it'll really be after that season when the decisions is made imo and this season he better show some improvement and not get in trouble again. If the team fails miserably both him and Koetter might be ditched eventually. I mean, right now I would say that unless you got a really favorable contract it might not be worth paying Winston after his cheaper rookie contract. If he can't keep out of trouble and he can't win, he's not worth it
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Winston isn't even that good
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swickles posted:It was negotiated. Jameis gets three games, agrees to not appeal or go to court. I thought I read he was planning on appealing...
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I think he's pretty good. If I remember right, Tampa took the Seattle approach to the offensive line. Just a trash dude outside of football, that's all!
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How is his salary only $700k? I thought #1 picks still got pretty decent sized contracts, was his just super front loaded?
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From what little I've seen of Jameis he's just a poor decision-maker on the field (and off of it as well obviously)
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Diqnol posted:I think he's pretty good. If I remember right, Tampa took the Seattle approach to the offensive line. Just a trash dude outside of football, that's all! The Bucs actually have invested in OL but the results have been lackluster. Bucs haven't had any sort of running game in the past 2 seasons. Please be good Ronald Jones. weird Asian candy posted:I thought I read he was planning on appealing... Nope. The appeal was the negotiation of 3 games instead of 6, basically.
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piss tape israel posted:From what little I've seen of Jameis he's just a poor decision-maker on the field (and off of it as well obviously) Strong post/avatar synergy here.
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Ahh, Rap tweeted earlier he was appealing but now Shefty is saying nope so it is done. Also this would be something... https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1012401063805292545
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iospace posted:Strong post/avatar synergy here.
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Also Jameis has been alright. He isn't a world beater, but he is young and good enough that the Bucs would be pretty dumb to move on from him at this point.
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Inspector 34 posted:How is his salary only $700k? I thought #1 picks still got pretty decent sized contracts, was his just super front loaded? Base salary. His cap # is like $7m this year due to signing/roster bonuses.
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Inspector 34 posted:How is his salary only $700k? I thought #1 picks still got pretty decent sized contracts, was his just super front loaded? idk why, but he's structured with a low base salary and a shitload of bonuses. Presumably it helps them with cap shenanigans somehow? https://overthecap.com/player/jameis-winston/3849
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weird Asian candy posted:Also Jameis has been alright. He isn't a world beater, but he is young and good enough that the Bucs would be pretty dumb to move on from him at this point. he appeared to be getting better until he got hurt
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Winston could be fine on the right team with the right coaching. He makes some really good throws behind a bad line. Sometimes holds the ball too long and sometimes makes horrible decisions. It's not like the league is drowning in amazing young quarterbacks, and next year's class is supposed to be really bad. He better get his poo poo together though because I totally believe he'll be expelled from the NFL if he pulls something like this again; quitting alcohol if that's actually true is a good start
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Maybe i'm dumb but if he has sold his team how can the NFL fine him? Why would he legally have to pay if he has no part in the NFL any longer? Can they compel him legally to pay whatever their committee deems correct?
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weird Asian candy posted:Ahh, Rap tweeted earlier he was appealing but now Shefty is saying nope so it is done. finger any more uber drivers against their will and you're GONE buddy
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bows1 posted:Maybe i'm dumb but if he has sold his team how can the NFL fine him? Why would he legally have to pay if he has no part in the NFL any longer? Can they compel him legally to pay whatever their committee deems correct? Probably withholding money he's still due or something.
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weird Asian candy posted:Ahh, Rap tweeted earlier he was appealing but now Shefty is saying nope so it is done. THREE RAPES AND YOU'RE OUT
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DariusLikewise posted:THREE RAPES AND YOU'RE OUT Does the uber incident count as a full rape or just half a rape
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Play posted:Does the uber incident count as a full rape or just half a rape In this analogy it's a foul ball so it's a full rape
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Depending on the state/county this took place in, it would possibly be considered “sexual assault” and not “rape.”
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sourdough posted:What? That's not even close to true. A young even average QB is worth way more for the bottom line than any PR hits Winston has caused. I probably overplayed my hand there a bit, mostly because Jameis has inexplicably seemed to skate for his behavior up to this point in his career. Still, it's worth considering what future PR hits you're setting yourself up for with Winston as the face of your franchise.
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So did we make fun of Tom Brady for trying to be cool yet? https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanschocket2/tom-brady-just-commented-on-a-meme-about-eating-rear end-and-yep
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"eating rear end" is actually boston slang for mouth kissing your son
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waah posted:So did we make fun of Tom Brady for trying to be cool yet? Tom, you kiss your son on the mouth with that mouth
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I don't believe for a second that tom brady eats rear end
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Play posted:I don't believe for a second that tom brady eats rear end
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Play posted:I don't believe for a second that tom brady eats rear end depends on if giselle has eaten strawberries
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Like any of you goons wouldn’t jump on the opportunity to rim Gisele.Hot Diggity! posted:Tom, you rim your wife with that mouth
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Play posted:I don't believe for a second that tom brady eats rear end It’s definitely not TB12 approved
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Wait. Hear me out. What if… …Eating rear end is what made Tom Brady the greatest quarterback ever?
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Android Apocalypse posted:Wait. Get on it, Bort. Call up one of the bar skanks you're probably plowing daily.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Wait. If he had to avoid all strawberries....
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Android Apocalypse posted:Wait. You'd think that'd made Kyle Orton at least like Philip Rivers good. My god, poor Mrs. Rivers might be too worn out.
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Jay Cutler inhales nicotine from an instagram model's rear end, waits for the magic to happen
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The mental image of Cutler packing a girl’s mouth with tobacco & lighting it, then proceeding to suck the farts out of her rear end is what I needed today. Thank you.
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Kalli posted:You'd think that'd made Kyle Orton at least like Philip Rivers good. Philip is a good catholic boy
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