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oliwan posted:The US is literally better at any cultural discipline than Europe though, whether that is film, TV, music, literature, you name it. Of course it's a numbers game, but it's still true. so by your own admission, because the US has more examples of works in these disciplines, they are better, because quantity > quality regardless, on a qualitative basis, this is a completely subjective judgement and imo quite absurd
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like, I am strongly against the use of canons as objective measures of quality in any artform, but I still find it absolutely bizarre to say that eg. the entire US literary canon is objectively superior to the European literary canon. e: and I realise that that's a superfluous statement because your judgement was quantitative rather than qualitative and the question of canon doesn't come into it, but oliwan, your entire statement boggles the loving mind you're probably still a good person but holy loving poo poo that's a horrible take Venomous has issued a correction as of 16:27 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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oliwan posted:no op, it's not quantity > quality. There's also more poo poo stuff coming from the US, but also more good stuff. so wait, does this only apply to modern media or are you genuinely saying that the entire corpus of American art since 1776 is better than the equivalent corpus of European art
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V. Illych L. posted:also 'the best (measured how lol) contemporary pop bands are american or basically americanised' is an enormously inadequate response to 'it is bad that the west is becoming increasingly culturally homogenous in a way that seems to be converging USian expression' this tbh. If cultural liberalism means uncritically accepting and emulating highly Americanised forms of cultural expression (forms which are highly influenced by and at the mercy of capital), I genuinely don't want to be a cultural liberal Venomous has issued a correction as of 17:25 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Ardennes posted:Also, the US really only has pop culture to offer at this point (forget about fine art, literature, or poetry). only by white people, because Black Americans in particular are actually killing it for example, Yaa Gyasi released two kickass novels in the past five years similarly, N.K. Jemisin is pretty much the best science fiction writer of the past decade there is tons of good art coming out of the US, but it sure as poo poo isn't by white people
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anyway, can we at least all agree that cultural conservatism ≠ social conservatism and, for those who believe in nations, wanting a distinctive national art as part of a pan-European artistic tradition that may be influenced (but not subsumed) by eg. US art is good because I can agree that some contemporary US art, as with some contemporary European art, is incredibly good, but I equally think that eg. in my case Scottish literature should not be subservient to that of the US or even the rest of the UK, b/c Scottish authors like, for example, James Kelman often differ from standard English literary form with localised forms of speech, syntax and orthography, to really interesting effects like, if I'm understanding this right, cultural conservatism in the sense that VIL mentioned does not seek to eliminate and homogenise differences and diverse influences within a certain culture's art, but rather to not completely discard the national tradition in favour of eg. a hegemonic form of US art, and imo that is fine Venomous has issued a correction as of 22:43 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Truga posted:lol wtf is this I completely agree with you??? I mean yeah, I was generalising for comedy's sake, and I do think that in terms of most contemporary US media, I do prefer works by marginalised folks rather than that of white cishets, but I'm not dismissing stuff outside of the mainstream US media and besides, the authors I mentioned are not part of hegemonic forms of US literature, mainly because they are very much not white cishets, but that isn't to say that white cishets are all just making the most derivative bullshit e: Agean90 posted:arguments about art and culture own because inevitability people start acting like the sum of it is what gets exported to other countries or start insisting their quirky local traditions are somehow more prestigious than other people's quickly local traditions for the record, other people's quirky local traditions loving own and I totally want to consume all the different kickass local art Venomous has issued a correction as of 22:45 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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so Denmark's full of fascists and Sweden's full of TERFs (but I repeat myself), what's Norway full of
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Bk. posted:Elections are coming up in Germany. well, the CDU/CSU are garbage conservatives, the SPD are garbage neoliberals in social democratic clothing, the FDP are garbage neoliberals full stop, Die Grünen are loving useless, and Die Linke will never make it into any degree of power so uhhh vote Green I guess
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iirc Lega are the diet fascists, the UKIP types, and Brothers Of Italy are the straight-up fascists Italy's hosed
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:gently caress, I have investments in eastern poland owned lmao
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judging by the massive amount of Spanish TERF accounts I've come across on Twitter over the past year, I feel like there are a lot of TERFs and SWERFs in Spain
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Carthag Tuek posted:why is the uk so unstable in the left graph, even pre-pandemic it's all over the place compared to the others well, the big drop in 2016 was probably due to the Brexit referendum, then in 2017 May invoked Article 50, and I imagine the next few drops before the pandemic were all Brexit related lmao
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Jose posted:lol did these idiots learn literally nothing from the 2008 crash no, they're German
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iirc Ap under Stoltenberg was incredibly neoliberal and privatised a ton of national industries, and I'm pretty sure Støre was a massive part of it, so it doesn't surprise me that much that Ap's still loving over the state nowadays I blame Tony Blair Venomous has issued a correction as of 17:08 on Jun 4, 2022 |
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i say swears online posted:https://twitter.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1543844756614258689 oh poo poo. Merz is going to be the next Kanzler, isn't he
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Peggotty posted:Doesn't really matter, the politics of SPD, CDU and Greens are completely indistinguishable at this point. if Merkel or Laschet were still leading the CDU, I would completely agree (and frankly, if Söder becomes the Union's Kanzlerkandidat in 2025, I will definitely agree then), but Merz is a lot more socially reactionary than most of his SPD, CDU, and Green contemporaries, and I wouldn't be surprised if he went full on culture war in an effort to siphon votes from the AfD
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it's worth noting that the definition of 'centre-right' has shifted extremely far to the right since 1979, to the point where the modern day EPP, which still describes themselves as 'centre-right', would surely be seen as the fascists they are back then ...probably not, but idk, we'll never know (as an aside, the only utility of the Overton Window is to determine the range of acceptable political opinion in capitalist societies, and outside of that context it is loving useless garbage)
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spankmeister posted:neoliberalism is going to go for that old crutch, A U S T E R I T Y sorry, did you say fascism? Because oh my God we're in for some loving fascism now!!!
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bedpan posted:the highest ideal of the liberal politician is to install literal fascists and call it a "sensible, moderate compromise" ah yes, the Hindenburg Principle
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mila kunis posted:japan in the 80s, but yeah any good texts on this? Sounds like some interesting neoliberal schadenfreude there
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no but you see this is a ~centre-right coalition~, not a far-right bloc! Wait what do you mean the Lista Nazionale was also centre-right by this definition
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...how the poo poo did Italy not have the same kind of denazification as Germany after the war? I mean, I know Italy was the first Axis power to surrender, so they weren't as important in the grand scheme of things, but it boggles the loving mind that the Allies didn't purge Italy of any sort of fascist influence after the war like they did in Germany.
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Mr Hootington posted:Are you stupid? yes, but that doesn't answer the question This is a good watch, thank you
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...gently caress.
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so why did Rasmussen fall out with V to such an extent that he felt the need to form yet another Danish liberal party
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Not many anti-racists can claim to have actually put their lives on the line to fight for other's religious freedoms. I mean, he's no Caro
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lmao if you're not using an adblocker
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Carthag Tuek posted:centrism is always always always giving in to the right. theres never in history been a "center right" government that gave concessions to the left. history just affirms fishhook theory, because centrists hate socialists far more than fascists e: Germany is another great example of centrism not working for the left at all, because even if there was anyone in the SPD who wanted to shift things to the left (and there isn't, but suppose there was) they'd be blocked by the FDP (ancap gobshites) and the more conservative folks in Die Grünen, thus ensuring Germany's ever rightward trajectory Venomous has issued a correction as of 19:00 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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R. Mute posted:von der leyen was created in a lab, built specifically to piss me off I mean, you can say this about half the CDU,
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turns out that there was never anyfhing good about the Nordic countries
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Truga posted:it's incredibly funny that a bunch of local fundies achieved in short order what al qaeda couldn't do in a couple decades lmao but enough about the US,
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Truga posted:the main US export to europe over the last 10 or so years has been their incredibly stupid culture war, it's not just US anymore oh, I'm well aware, just making a terrible joke yeah, at this rate the continent will be just as hosed by evangelical fascism as the US is right now lmao e: R. Mute posted:maybe china will belt and road greece to safety, who knows. this, of course, is the ideal solution
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Syrizafication
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you ever get the impression that multi-party democracy just doesn't work
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Carthag Tuek posted:as opposed to one party, zero parties? I mean, I've never been big into vanguard parties, but *gestures in the direction of everything*
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AnimeIsTrash posted:
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