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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




we needed a generic europe thread because most countries in europe are too insignificant to deserve their own thread

for example did u know the long term spanish pm rajoy, who sucked and was bad, just got kicked out for also being corrupt as poo poo

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44327573

and italy finally stumbled into a government that sucks and is bad and will defintiely be corrupt as poo poo

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/opinion/italy-government-league-five-star-movement.html

well now you know

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


note if you talk about the brits in here you will be probated. this thread respects the democratic will of the british people to brexit

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1002577353950793733

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


ChainsawCharlie posted:

gently caress you the socialist party is still going strong in portugal bitches!*





* by reversing the austerity policies of the previous center rigth goverment.**





** and only because the trots and communists forced them to by entering a parliamentary aliance.***





*** other than that they are still poo poo.****




**** but on the back of left wing policies the socialists are on track to win a majority in the next election *****





***** and they will probably proceed to gently caress it all up again.

yeah portugal seems to be the only place going in a good direction

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Byolante posted:

How is this any different to Obama trying to interfere in european elections?

he supported the good neolibs

Sheng-Ji Yang has issued a correction as of 10:53 on Jun 4, 2018

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


that said i cant see merkel taking too kindly to the US ambassador openly declaring hes supporting the opposition

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


A Buttery Pastry posted:

Yeah, pretty obvious distinction between supporting the opposition and supporting the status quo, in diplomatic terms.

yeah even when he endorsed macron it was either him or le pen and no other party in power in europe wanted le pen except maybe orban or something

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Byolante posted:

Nah its Legia







lol that owns

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lol

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lol owned

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_IA3stJRoE

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/GatestoneInst/status/1022393067511406593

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


ive never seen a leftist say anything supportive of the new italian gov

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014





lol

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Dirk Pitt posted:

I’m kind of surprised this hasn’t been attempted.

the biggest equivalent to the alt right in europe in "Generation Identity," a french group that is for a Pan-European identity. basically american style white supremacy but tailored to europe. they still seem to oppose the EU but support what is basically a weird fascist EU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_of_100_Flags

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


twoday posted:



:angryitalianchef:

vaccini fettucini?? no bene!

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


the eu is obviously a neoliberal undemocratic institution and any actual leftist would obviously want to smash it and rebuild it along socialist and democratic lines

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


mila kunis posted:

the EU is run by people who exist to serve rentier and financial interests, just like most everywhere else on earth now. the common market has benefited some powerful countries (germany) and other less powerful countries where capital gets to play "lets shift production to places where we can pay people less!" (like romania) and pit labour against each other, while turbofucking so many other countries because they do not control their own currency and can be blackmailed into austerity and IMF style fiscal policy, degrading the quality of lives of millions of people. until the people in charge are forcibly removed, or theres some form of democratization where the interests of labour are given equal power in deciding EU and ECB policy, you're going to get technocrats who cannot be checked by democratic means unlike national governments running roughshod over people.

the british are still retards because they had the benefit of being in the EU while being able to control their own currency and fiscal policy and decided to own themselves.

TrilliontonNixon posted:

Yeah pretty much. I don't see how anyone can look at the worse than the Great Depression level catastrophe that's been inflicted on Greece and Spain and still think that the EU as it currently exists is worth defending. This isn't to say that the fascists that are currently spreading across Europe like a fungus aren't way worse, but propping up the failure of an institution that ran these countries into a ditch and gave fascism the opportunity to grow in the first place is a pretty terrible idea.


yep

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


twoday posted:

Hmm, those are all good points. I don’t really want to be defending an undemocratic institution, do I? I guess I need to think about this some more.

im glad i helped you :)

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


it's going to brutally collapse during the next recession, dont worry

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



so are these nazis rallying around a statue of marx

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


mila kunis posted:

east germany got really messed up after reunification huh



:shrug:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


yo dog i heard you like war so we added some war into your war themed cafe so you can get blown up

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



even greenwald is falling into the trap where its macron vs the far right. melenchon is the most popular pol in france atm

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




lol

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfCiDAx9ntE

:getin:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Man Musk posted:

this is the argument coming from china, india, etc, on why they need not make climate commitments w.r.t europe + north america industrializing first

seems that climate change is definitely going to happen if everyboody treats this as a zero sum game, and can't handle a measly economic disincentive

dumb lib poo poo

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/le...este-massif.php

quote:

According to a Harris Interactive survey for RTL and M6, 72% of respondents still support the movement. For 90%, the government did not live up to the events.

The French support for "yellow vests" is still massive, while the finding on the personality of Emmanuel Macron is very severe. According to a Harris Interactive poll for RTL and M6, made after the events of Saturday, 72% support the movement of "yellow vests" despite the violence committed mainly in Paris. Support does not falter with a stable figure at 15-day intervals with the previous survey. However, the French equally disapprove of the use of violence. No less than 85% of French respondents share this sentiment. Supporters of "yellow vests" are not immune to this rejection of violent actions, 81% of them condemning.

lol macron is hosed

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



cummin

Kurnugia posted:

why isn't there a guillotine smilie yet



:thermidor:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


ah drat it is. rip

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lmao what the gently caress

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


get that OUT of my face posted:

podemos sounds cool but it looks like the right is gonna be in charge of Spain soon. soon everywhere will be fascist

polls have the PSOE sweeping though



unfortunately mostly at Podemos' loss

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


ekuNNN posted:

which color is vox in that graph?

lime green with a hint of vomit

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/CasMudde/status/1122580707577085957

this is gonna be a mess

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


cargo cult posted:

pedro sanchez is handsome

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i thought pedro sanchez had moved the PSOE significantly to the left?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/anarcobergueda2/status/1122823532470251520?s=19

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


is there a reason why FI and melenchons support has dropped so much? why have they not been able to be an effective opposition to macron?

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