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man I wish we had a cool 60s/70s style leftist insurgency in the west that went around offing the fash instead we have c-spam
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Goon Project: Let's send money to the CPP-NPA
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Goon Project: Let's send money to the CPP-NPA Goon Project: Goon Island 2, rebel stronghold edition
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Feranon posted:man I wish we had a cool 60s/70s style leftist insurgency in the west that went around offing the fash off the fash with brutal owns
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Feranon posted:man I wish we had a cool 60s/70s style leftist insurgency in the west that went around offing the fash We're just as well not having any Baader-Meinhoff dorks running around.
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Feranon posted:man I wish we had a cool 60s/70s style leftist insurgency in the west that went around offing the fash Would just give the police state something to smash.
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https://twitter.com/prwc_info/status/1015921993064026114Pener Kropoopkin posted:Goon Project: Let's send money to the CPP-NPA This is how C-SPAN is gonna get shut down
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allow me to translate the rest of that thread: "Let's just go to war!", you said, like some kind of an addled moron on a high. You think you're such an advocate for peace? All you ever do is say you want it, but never not once have you deescalated the war. Never not once have you told your soldiers to stop the offensives. Now, there is no more peace in the villages and the forests that have been ransacked by your troops. There is no end to the depths of suffering experienced by those subjected to your warmongering, that you so ironically called "Operation Peace". You are deaf to their cries. You drown out their shouting with the sound of the bombs that you drop upon their houses and farmlands. You evict them from lands that you and your lackeys covey so greedily. You have hamstrung the peace talks oh so many times. You keep changing the conditions on us, and now you tell the lie that the NDFP wants a coalition with you? Please, they don't even want you! To say that the government has been given the short end of the stick in previous negotiations? Another lie. All you really want is to throw away all the progress that has been made in the last 25 years. It is now so clear to us that you really do not want peace. A peace that would solve the problems that this nation faces - stolen lands, unemployment, low wages, rising prices, crippling taxes, and corruption and theft by bureaucrats like you What you really want is for all revolutionaries to surrender and bend the knee. You are so drunk on power. You think that you can get away with all your crimes and abuses? You are wrong. The Filipino people will not allow it. Your ambition to subjugate the nation will fail. Your scheming to become dictator will fail. You must be daydreaming if you think that you can overcome the armed struggle of the masses. You are certain to fail. Just like your idol, Marcos, you will be consigned to the dustbin of history.
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gradenko_2000 posted:allow me to translate the rest of that thread: 
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Lol at the copy pasted workers on the back
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lol @ Duterte moobs
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I will say that a personal hang-up of mine in local political discourse is that whenever the militant left raises the "Duterte-US regime", you always get a bunch of shitlibs coming in with their hot-takes on how "UHHHH ACTUALLY CHINA IS THE PROBLEM" and either demanding proof that the US has significant influence over the Philippines, or asserting that the US does have influence over the Philippines, but that that's a good thing
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gradenko_2000 posted:I will say that a personal hang-up of mine in local political discourse is that whenever the militant left raises the "Duterte-US regime", you always get a bunch of shitlibs coming in with their hot-takes on how "UHHHH ACTUALLY CHINA IS THE PROBLEM" and either demanding proof that the US has significant influence over the Philippines, or asserting that the US does have influence over the Philippines, but that that's a good thing
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gradenko_2000 posted:allow me to translate the rest of that thread: the English translation is on the NDFP website, I hope you didn't make yourself go through it line by line 
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get that OUT of my face posted:wasn't duterte making overtures to bring china closer to the philippines to begin with? yes, he did, but Duterte rolling over for Xi and letting them intrude in the Spratlys and taking out "debt trap" loans to finance his infrastructure programs is regarded by the opposition as a bad thing. He's perceived as a "lapdog" to the Chinese ... which makes the liberals insist on writing-off left-wing criticism of the government's ties with America to be misguided / wrong / outdated.
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gradenko_2000 posted:yes, he did, but Duterte rolling over for Xi and letting them intrude in the Spratlys and taking out "debt trap" loans to finance his infrastructure programs is regarded by the opposition as a bad thing. He's perceived as a "lapdog" to the Chinese ... which makes the liberals insist on writing-off left-wing criticism of the government's ties with America to be misguided / wrong / outdated. Yeah, because they're going to be the ones to bring back American dominance.
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https://twitter.com/inquirerdotnet/status/1016862089674219522 “If it’s the same God, I’m sorry, that’s how it is. Sorry, God. I said sorry God. If God is taken in a generic term by everybody listening then that’s well and good,” Duterte said in a video posted by the Presidential Communication Operations Office (PCOO) on its Facebook Page. The President maintained his critics should “never use the name of God to attack government.” “I only apologize to God, nobody else. If I wronged God, he would be happy to listen. Why? Because my God is all forgiving. Why? Because God created me to be good and not bad,” he said.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Because God created me to be good and not bad,” he said. the god that failed
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Everything Duterte said about God is really funny
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Cucked by God
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One of the big issues during the 2016 campaign was "charter change", or the drafting of a new Constitution, and specifically Duterte's adoption of the platform of using charter change to implement Federalism, rather than the current unitary government. Besides the supposed benefits of using Federalism to deal with separatist groups in the south of the country, the highly hyped need for Federalism was the assertion that it would allow for a more equitable distribution of the national coffers across the country. The phrase "Imperial Manila" has been used on and off in political discourse throughout the modern era, but it especially gained prominence as a result of Duterte's campaign, where he made the case that a federalized Philippines would more even development across the whole country. Yet another angle on charter change is that it could be used to lift current constitutional restrictions on foreign ownership of companies in the Philippines, with an eye towards attracting more foreign investment and therefore more jobs, more economic growth, etc. That's a rather neoliberal view of economic policy, of course, and the way it's been heavily downplayed in favor of going hard on the provincial/rural development angle suggests that this is one of the "Real" big deals at stake. Finally, one of the most latent threats when it comes to charter change is the possibility that it will be used by the current President to extend their term and/or allow themselves to run again - this was infamously used by Ferdinand Marcos himself, so it's on peoples's minds as an obvious potential problem regardless of one's thoughts on the rest of the proposals. _______ Per the current constitution, there's three ways in which to trigger charter change: The first is via a People's Initiative, wherein The People can directly submit amendments to the constitution via a petition that's signed by at least 12% of all registered voters, and at least 3% of all registered voters within each legislative district. The second is via a Constitutional Convention, in which a special election is held for people to elect delegates to a convention that will then draft and submit amendments to the constitution. Notably, this was the method used to draft the current constitution after Marcos's overthrow. Lastly, we have the Constituent Assembly, in which Congress can convene themselves to propose constitutional amendments, and then the amendments have to be approved by three-fourths of Congress. As an aside, I believe Venezuela's constitutional change in 2017 was called a Constituent Assembly, though the mechanics resemble what the Philippine Constitution would consider a Constitutional Convention, since the assembly members were chosen via a popular election. The Constituent Assembly was the method that the administration has chosen to go along with, largely because it means that the Duterte-allied Congresspersons get to decide on the amendments themselves (a Convention could elect different people), and because there's enough of an overwhelming majority in Congress that they could get the 3/4ths margin to approve amendments easily. There is a pending constitutional crisis here: the constitution is vaguely worded to the extent that it is unclear whether the Senate votes with, or separately from, the House. If the Senate would need to vote separately, and if both votes have to pass in order for the amendments to be approved, then that spells trouble for the administration, since there's probably enough No votes in the Senate that they couldn't pass the 3/4ths threshold. Naturally, the Speaker of the House has insisted that they do not need the Senate, and it's altogether likely that if this were to come to the Supreme Court, the conservative-stacked court would rule in favor of the Speaker's interpretation. Once these amendments have been approved/presented, via any of the three methods, then there's supposed to be a national plebiscite in order to have it ratified. The historical background to that particular process is that when Marcos did the same to pass a new constitution in 1973 to extend his power, the votes were done under armed guard, or under false pretense (a recurring trick was to ask everyone who wanted to get a rice dole to raise their hands, then immediately ask for approval on the plebiscite, and count the same hands), or just straight-up making up numbers. One last angle to note about this whole process is that the administration has been angling to sell the public on a "no midterm elections" scenario, or a national plebiscite that's concurrent with the midterms. The official line is that this is more "fiscally responsible", since the government wouldn't have to shell out for a second, post-midterm election just to run the plebiscite. The real reason, of course, is that it prevents some kind of opposition blowback that might ruin the number of Duterte allies in the House. _______ To get the ball rolling on this whole endeavour, Duterte appointed and convened a "Consultative Committee" on Charter Change in January of 2018. The group is composed of liberals and conservatives of varying degrees, a former Senate President, at least one former Supreme Court associate justice, law school deans, and even representatives from Mindanao. As near as I can tell, the left wing is not represented at all in this group. Their objective was to create a draft document of constitutional amendments, submit it to the President and to Congress and to the public, and that document can serve as the basis for what the Constituent Assembly (composed of members of Congress) would work on and vote on. The committee completed their draft on July 3. As early as July 5th, there were already accusations flying that the draft document would allow Duterte to extend his term past 2022 [1] [2]. On July 6th, Duterte then made a speech urging Congress to modify the draft in such a way as to prevent him from being able to run again or to extend his term. This was reiterated by the Press Secretary on the 9th. On the 10th, the Press Secretary then said that Duterte was considering a set-up by which the President during the transitory period to the new constitution should be elected, rather than passing to Duterte, which would mean that Duterte gets to step down even earlier than 2022. Still, other critics are saying that there's a big loophole in the draft document: if no elections are held by May 2022, then the terms of the transitory period officials would not expire yet, which could mean that Duterte keeps on being President as long as the elections aren't held. There's a lot of chatter and white noise about this particular topic, and Duterte is hardly trustworthy, but suffice it to say that this is a contentious issue and will probably be both warned against by the opposition and downplayed by the administration until the day the issue is resolved one way or another. _______ For anyone who's interested, here's an article covering a full copy of the draft document. Again, this is only a set of recommendations by a committee formed by the President, and it still has to go through Congress-as-Constituent-Assembly, and will probably be changed significantly if/when we get there. My overall opinion of the whole deal is that Federalism itself is just blowing smoke up our asses as far as the promise of better rural/provincial development. The problems of those areas are warlordism, dynasts, and general corruption brought about by oligarchical families owning huge tracts of land, and creating a state-level bureaucracy not only does nothing to address these underlying issues, but actually threatens to entrench them further because now the kids of Ferdinand Marcos are going to have even more autonomy in Ilocos Norte, and so on for every other local despot. Specific provisions I'd like to call out: * There's a prohibition on "unreasonable surveillance" that the military does not like * There's a provision to add "lawless violence" as a reason for suspending the writ of Habeas Corpus. This is dangerous insofar as Duterte used that very same phrase and justification to declare a "state of emergency" in Davao City back in 2016 that hasn't been lifted since. * There's a number of provisions designed to strengthen political parties by making it difficult to "jump" parties arbitrarily, mandating democratic processes for choosing party members, mandating gender equality in electoral candidates, and creating public funding for parties. This is good, on paper. * Federal-level Senators would now be elected per-state, with two Senators per state, rather than the current model of the 12 candidates that received the most number of free-for-all-national-level votes becoming Senator. The number of seats in the House would increase from 297 to 400, and 40% of those seats are going to be via proportional representation of parties. This is mostly good, on paper. * Senators, House Representatives, the President, and the Vice President would all require college degrees to be eligible for the office. I strongly disagree with this on undemocratic grounds. * The President and the Vice President would now be voted on as a single ticket, rather than separately. This is good on paper, because there's this not-good mentality among the electorate that you should vote for the Pres and the VP on opposing tickets, with one acting as a "moderating force" on the other. In practice this never works, because the VP has zero actual power. It's resulted in the last two VPs being party-opponents of the President, at which point they're shoved into some podunk cabinet appointment until it's time to run for President again. * The foreign ownership laws have been changed subtly to still be there, but with a clause saying that they can be changed by Congress through a law. Even if this half-measure were to survive the Constituent Assembly, it's altogether likely that Congress actually would remove those limits anyway as one of their first acts. I see maybe two things in there that I think would be decent improvements to the government in a vacuum, but as a whole package, I don't see myself approving of this, given a choice.
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If not for the fact that Duterte is basically a puppet of Chinese interests at this point, I imagine he'd get along fantastically with Trump and probably have a Trump hotel in Manila already.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Goon Project: Let's send money to the CPP-NPA They're on the FTO list.
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so was Mujahideen e Kalk
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It's good that he's apologizing only to God, because only God forgives.
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Xelkelvos posted:If not for the fact that Duterte is basically a puppet of Chinese interests at this point https://twitter.com/PhilstarNews/status/1017251573561356289
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Feranon posted:man I wish we had a cool 60s/70s style leftist insurgency in the west that went around offing the fash but they mostly just hijacked airplanes and poo poo and didn't accomplish much
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Look like it's time for a crusade to eliminate heresy in The Phillipines.
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Lessail posted:he peaked with sandstorm anyway There is a song you should play repeatedly. Fiend has issued a correction as of 18:28 on Jul 15, 2018 |
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Leftist lawmakers ready to work with Leniquote:MANILA, Philippines — Members of the progressive Makabayan bloc in the House of Representatives yesterday expressed willingness to form a coalition with Vice President Leni Robredo, who declared that she would now be the voice of the political opposition. Let's check on how "the opposition" is doing: Leni urges labor, employers to ‘compromise’ on contractualization quote:Vice President Maria Leonor “Leni” Robredo on Sunday said a compromise should be reached between workers and employers over the long-standing issue of contractualization in the country. ah ha, welcome to the #Resistance
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paquiao won so that gets the mind of the nation off of arbitrary loitering crackdowns
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Jose posted:how does the presidency work that the vice president is in opposition There's a line on the ballot for the President, and the line on the ballot for the Vice President. Whoever gets the most votes for that position takes that office. The VP does not get to do anything, not even be involved in matters of Senate business as the American VP is. It's "traditional" to give the VP a cabinet post, but there's no direct constitutional/legal mandate to do so. in 1992, the first elections since the ouster of Ferdinand Marcos, the President (Fidel V. Ramos) and the Vice President (Joseph Estrada) were not from the same party in 1998, Joseph Estrada won the Presidency, and his party didn't have a VP candidate, so of course the VP (Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo) was not from the same party in 2001, Estrada was removed from power via a popular movement following a failed impeachment trial that was largely thought to have been corrupted/bought off. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo ascended to the Presidency, and named Teofisto Guingona, then serving a Senate Minority Leader, to become her VP for the remainder of the 1998 to 2004 term. That was the first time since the 1987 post-Marcos Constitution that the President and the VP were from the same party. in 2004, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo won a second term at the Presidency. Her VP was Noli de Castro, who ran as an independent. in 2010, Benigno Aquino III won the Presidency. His VP was Jejomar Binay, who ran from a different party. It's notable that Aquino and Binay were perceived to be political rivals, to the point where Binay resigned his cabinet post (as the rough equivalent of HUD Secretary) in mid-2015 to get a head-start on campaigning against Aquino. in 2016, of course Duterte won the Presidency, and his VP is currently Leni Robredo. This is regarded as even more of a vicious ideological battle than the Aquino-Binay dichotomy because Duterte ran on tearing down the alleged corruption and incompetence of the Aquino administration. Robredo was given the HUD cabinet post again, but was effectively forced out by Dec 2016 and resigned the post after being denied access to all cabinet meetings. Finally, I want to say that the peculiar way that we vote for the President and the VP separately creates this effect (at least, as I've experienced it anecdotally) where people think that they can "balance" the ticket by deliberately voting for opposing candidates, with a view that one will be a moderating influence on the other. This obviously doesn't actually work - when the Liberals were in power, Binay broke away and accused Aquino of holding him back. With Duterte in power, they simply threw out Robredo.
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Jose posted:how does the presidency work that the vice president is in opposition It used to be in the United States that it was customary to pick your general election opponent to be the VP, and they only started doing party nominations for VP in the 20th century. A lot of presidential republics don't really have formal limitations on who gets picked for VP offices.
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except for emergency succession, I can't even remember any particular power the American VP has. Isn't most of the stuff they traditionally do just delegated power
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Larry Parrish posted:except for emergency succession, I can't even remember any particular power the American VP has. Isn't most of the stuff they traditionally do just delegated power They get to cast tie breaking votes in the Senate, which has come up a few times this term.
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Philippines could breach US sanctions if Russia arms deal proceedsquote:MANILA - The Philippines is at risk of breaching sanctions imposed by the United States if it proceeds with the purchase of grenade launchers from a blacklisted Russian firm, a deal that could test its longtime security alliance with Washington.
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