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Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Beetphyxious posted:

Found it, and gently caress it was like two days ago. my brain is fried.


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/07/28/nteu-j28.html

Yeah most of this is a massive stretch at best, and outright bullshit at worst.

Edit: I mean I'd expect more from such a reliable News Outlet as...The.. World Socialist Website??!

Don Dongington fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Jul 31, 2018

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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Birdstrike posted:

I think it’s a mix, his whole approach was trying to undermine a few footnotes in other people’s work without offering anything approaching a coherent alternative theory.

it’s basically sea-lioning

It's a lot of work for just sea-lioning, I think he has more invested in it than that. It's a performance with the intention to impress right-wingers and provide a home-grown racial theory to feel oppressed with. Except Bolt does it better and doesn't bother with academic papers.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Birdstrike posted:

yeah I said he was poo poo, sorry you can’t read

after the debate I called him out at he told a bunch of private school kids that “we don’t know what happened to all the missing indigenous people, maybe aliens took them”

Where did they all go? Must be aliens :shrug:




snoremac posted:

Bolt has worked in Melbourne CBD for decades and rushed to his blog a year ago to report that he saw people sleeping in the street while walking down Flinders Street.

Noted Non-Anglo Andrew Bolt.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Lmao just how dumb is Australia:

Australia is joining forces with the United States and Japan to pull more private infrastructure investment into poor countries in Asia and the Pacific in what will be a rival vision to China’s massive state-led Belt and Road Initiative.

While the Turnbull government provided little detail on the plan, it appears aimed at giving private investors greater assurance in buying into much-needed projects in countries they might otherwise deem risky, while persuading those countries that an economically open region is in their long-term interests.

Canberra, Washington and Tokyo have been watching with rising concern as Beijing embarks on an infrastructure-building spree across Asia and the Pacific under President Xi Jinping’s Belt and Road Initiative, or BRI.

The Chinese state-sponsored initiative has constructed billions of dollars worth of ports, roads, bridges, railways and communication networks but is regarded by critics as a strategic play that is not always in the interests of the countries receiving the infrastructure.

Stephen Kirchner, a trade and investment expert at the US Studies Centre at Sydney University, said the scheme announced on Tuesday was an “attempt to provide a private sector-led alternative to China’s BRI”.

“It becomes very tempting for countries in the region to access that [Chinese] finance rather than the much more demanding task of the attracting that [private] investment,” Dr Kirchner said.

“There’s a role for [Australia, the US and Japan] to explain to countries in the region that although China sets a lower bar, this comes with all sorts of geopolitical strings attached that can compromise your sovereignty.”

Australia has long been worried that some development projects under the BRI are murky and will leave poor countries saddled with unsustainable debts that make them vulnerable to Chinese coercion.

The rival vehicle, Dr Kirchner said, would aim to persuade countries needing infrastructure that while private investment imposed tougher standards in the short term, being part of a “free and open Indo-Pacific region” would be better for them in the future.

The joint statement between Australia, the US and Japan, issued by Foreign Minister Julie Bishop’s office, focussed strongly on the need for a “free, open, inclusive and prosperous Indo-Pacific” region and promoted their own values of “transparency ... and avoiding unsustainable debt burdens”.

It stated the priority projects would be in energy, transportation, tourism, and communications technology”.

Because it aims to attract private capital, it is unlikely to cost Australian taxpayers.

Dr Kirchner said the plan was “very much a work in progress”.

“Are there any barriers to greater private sector participation in funding regional infrastructure that they can jointly address? This is very much a process for doing that.”

The US Overseas Private Investment Corporation, through which the US will be involved, helps American companies operate in emerging markets by giving the companies loans, guarantees and political risk insurance.

Rory Medcalf, who heads the Australian National University's National Security College, said there was no sense in Australia and others trying to match China dollar-for-dollar in infrastructure spending - a view shared by Dr Kirchner.

"The value from advanced democracies is going to be in quality infrastructure, digital infrastructure and strategically picking countries to interrupt the continuity of the BRI to make sure China can't dominate the region," Professor Medcalf said.
-

If Australia wasn't such a Yellow Peril rear end in a top hat we would probably be a part of the BRI and have the NBN & High Speed Rail by now plus god knows what else :shrug: Better sign up with Trump and Abe instead so that they can...[???????????]

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Noted Non-Anglo Andrew Bolt.

He has also described himself as "indigenous" because he is a smug fuckhead with low intelligence and zero nuance.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Noted Non-Anglo Andrew Bolt.

He's actually Dutch.

It's similar to how he really cares about Catholicism and Christianity despite not actually being religious.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:

Anidav posted:

While the Turnbull government provided little detail on the plan, it appears aimed at giving private investors greater assurance in buying into much-needed projects in countries they might otherwise deem risky, while persuading those countries that an economically open region is in their long-term interests.

...

Because it aims to attract private capital, it is unlikely to cost Australian taxpayers.

Dr Kirchner said the plan was “very much a work in progress”.

“Are there any barriers to greater private sector participation in funding regional infrastructure that they can jointly address? This is very much a process for doing that.”

The US Overseas Private Investment Corporation, through which the US will be involved, helps American companies operate in emerging markets by giving the companies loans, guarantees and political risk insurance.

This just means the government takes on all the risk doesn't it

e: I don't get it, China's doing stuff that mightn't be in the interest of other countries, so we're going to make sure our private for-profit companies get a piece of the pie by having the government accept the risk, is that the deal

bandaid.friend fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jul 31, 2018

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

bandaid.friend posted:

This just means the government takes on all the risk doesn't it

e: I don't get it, China's doing stuff that mightn't be in the interest of other countries, so we're going to make sure our private for-profit companies get a piece of the pie by having the government accept the risk, is that the deal

because free market is better than insidious communism

domino theory v2

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Foreign investment is only bad when communists do it.

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

the baby boomers all getting really into their genealogy right now is pretty funny, i overhear the ads on sbs (sbs!! what the gently caress happened) and they're all like "i thought my ancestry was aussie as aussie can be... but i got tested through ancestry.com.au and i found out that i have roots in england, ireland, and *shocked voice* the netherlands"

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

...dad just got his done and now he's losing his poo poo because it said he was 1/4 danish and i'm like dad, please, nobody cares

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

It's cool and normal to obsess over the purity of your bloodline.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.
I want to get this done because I'm legit curious about if I've got any ancestors from interesting places. couldn't give a gently caress how pure my bloodline is. gonna be disappointed af if it's just germans and brits all the way down.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Barnaby Joyce warns Coalition needs to change after by-election losses


Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce believes the Coalition is heading over a cliff, but still thinks it can turn things around.

Mr Joyce says the Turnbull government needs to be brutally honest in recognising a primary vote in the 20s is “kinda crazy”, otherwise a lot of MPs will be looking for jobs after the federal election.

Some people need a “kick up the arse” to avoid getting “smacked between the eyes again” like in last weekend’s by-election losses, he says.

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“If you don’t change, that result won’t change, I can assure you of that,” he told Sky News on Tuesday night.

MPs are united and “rah rah” in the joint party room but Mr Joyce says when they separate they question how things are really going.

“I’d rather get the hate mail and get the opprobrium and jerk ourselves back into gear and win the next election than sit back in the rah rah group and say everything’s fine, because it ain’t fine when your vote’s in the 20s,” he said.

Liberal candidate Trevor Ruthenberg walked away with a primary vote of 29 per cent in the Longman by-election on Saturday.

One Nation managed 15.9 per cent while leader Pauline Hanson was on a cruise in the Irish Sea, Mr Joyce pointed out.

Selling policies and following through are the big issues.

“If you want to stick with your company tax cuts you’ve got to say to yourself ‘this message isn’t selling, what are we doing wrong, how are we going to get this message through?’,” he said.

“I believe you still can do it, but it’s not your priority number one.”

That priority is power prices.

But not the Paris Agreement or working toward reducing the global temperature if it means people will have to pay more for energy.

And he’s vehemently opposed to going down a costly path of reducing agriculture emissions.

“If we go down that path then forget it, I’m out. See you later. Goodbye. That’s just nut case stuff,” he said.

“We’re not paying the bill for that. Those days are over and unless you focus on it you’re going to get smacked, you’re going to get smacked every time you walk into the front bar.” He’s also still backing Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister and believes the government can turn it around by getting out in the electorates, talking to the people about their fears, their desires and to listen with empathy. “Then bloody well go back and fight for it when you go back (to Canberra),” he said.



https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...63df8610b9d177c

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Health Minister backs down on My Health Record


Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt has bowed to pressure and agreed to tear up the controversial legislation behind the My Health Record to protect patients from having their medical records accessed by police.

Following crisis talks with the head of the Australian Medical Association in Melbourne on Tuesday night, Mr Hunt confimed in a statement that the My Health Record Act will be redrafted.

"The amendment will ensure no record can be released to police or government agencies, for any purpose, without a court order," the statement said.

"The Digital Health Agency’s policy is clear and categorical - no documents have been released in more than six years and no documents will be released without a court order. This will be enshrined in legislation."

Mr Hunt said the reform would "remove any ambiguity on this matter".

He added that the legislation would also be amended to ensure that if any Australian wished to cancel their record, they could do so permanently, with their record deleted from the system.

"The government will also work with medical leaders on additional communications to the public about the benefits and purpose of the My Health Record, so they can make an informed choice," Mr Hunt said.

AMA President Tony Bartone told Fairfax Media that he had enjoyed a "frank and constructive discussion" with Mr Hunt and welcomed the Minister's decision, which he said would allow patients to make "an informed choice".

"In addition, we’ve also impressed upon the Minister that there’s a need to have some clear air, to ensure that the community has time to fully understand what is a My Health Record and what is entailed in the opt out process," Dr Bartone said.

He said the Minister had agreed to consider extending the opt-out period by a month from the October 15 deadline, to allow Australians to become informed of their options.

Mr Hunt is expected to raise the proposed extension with state health ministers at this week's COAG meeting.

Dr Bartone sought to meet Mr Hunt after doctors, patients and privacy advocates raised a raft of concerns about the My Health Record Act.

He last week vowed to do "whatever it takes" to safeguard patients' interests.

It is understood that support for a redrafting of the legislation emerged within the Liberal Party after last weekend's byelections, in which Labor bolstered its position in part by attacking the Turnbull government's record on health.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten seized on the issue in Tasmania on Tuesday, as he celebrated Labor's Braddon byelection victory alongside member-elect Justine Keay.

Mr Shorten said that while he supported digitising health records in principle, "this government is really bungling it".

One Nation leader Pauline Hanson also came out against the system, posting detailed instructions on how her supporters can opt out.

"I’m sorry, but with cyber hacking at an all time high, I can understand the general public's concerns with their personal details being kept online," Ms Hanson said in a statement on Tuesday.

Queensland Health Minister Dr Steven Miles has threatened to disrupt the three-month opt-out roll-out period, calling for this week's Council of Australian Governments (COAG) meeting on Thursday between states and territories to discuss whether to suspend it.

Privacy Commissioner Angelene Falk has also raised concerns with Mr Hunt and the Australian Digital Health Agency, which is administering the scheme, while former AMA President Kerryn Phelps highlighted concerns with the legislation and warned that GPs may boycott the system.

Royal Australian College of General Practitioners president Harry Nespolon, who has opted out, last week told Fairfax Media that he believed the government would have "no choice" but to redraft the legislation after backlash from patients and doctors.


https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/health-minister-backs-down-on-my-health-record-20180731-p4zuqo.html

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
We need to turn around and address what's making us unpopular. But not the stuff that benefits me or my mates. The stuff you want for your mates, let's dump that

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009




I would not trust them on this.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
don’t do these gene tests, they share that poo poo with law enforcement and corps

make sure you tell your family too for obvious reasons

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

bandaid.friend posted:

e: I don't get it, China's doing stuff that mightn't be in the interest of other countries, so we're going to make sure our private for-profit companies get a piece of the pie by having the government accept the risk, is that the deal

the deal is we're getting into a bidding war with China over who builds undersea cables across the Pacific and we're definitely going to win

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Reclines Obesily posted:

don’t do these gene tests, they share that poo poo with law enforcement and corps

make sure you tell your family too for obvious reasons

and sell it to big pharma

https://www.firstpost.com/tech/science/gsk-to-access-dna-data-from-millions-by-partnering-with-google-funded-23andme-4859151.html

quote:

The drug discovery giant, GlaxoSmithKline, has hedged a $300 million bet on genetics by buying a stake in the Silicon Valley gene testing company 23andMe.The move will secure GSK exclusive access to the Google-backed firm’s vast DNA database, which it hopes will help unlock new treatments for a range of diseases.It won’t yield new products overnight, but GSK's President of Research & Development Hal Barron believes it will accelerate GSK’s drug development work, which has lagged behind rivals in producing multi-billion dollar blockbuster drugs.While 23andMe is best known for saliva-based test kits that offer users a glimpse into their genetic ancestry, it also has a three-year-old drug R&D unit, whose efforts will now merge with those of GSK researchers.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
https://twitter.com/matttburke/status/1024143923571118081?s=21

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting


Have a good time there, Anidav!

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012



How many people have opted out

Give us the numbers

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

How likely is this legislation to get done before the deadline and how likely is it they pass some watered down bullshit after the deadline lapses?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
All news outlets running very hard on saffer farmers being tortured. We gotta save em Cloud!

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Beetphyxious posted:

Found it, and gently caress it was like two days ago. my brain is fried.


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/07/28/nteu-j28.html

Ding dong your source is wrong

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Like even with a critical lens (some of the free speech poo poo out of the JCU branch), there’s just so much wrong with that article that it basically looks like it’s supposed to be wrong on purpose.

I also love the fact that it’s effectivly excusing the LNP from any wrong-doing, almost like it’s written by some amazing deep-cover agent (I know the SEP is real though). Maybe the SEP can try to use the invasion day rallies to sell more of their poo poo again

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Recoome posted:

Ding dong your source is wrong

it’s not wrong, it just needs to rebrand!

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Five by-elections held across Australia on Saturday gave a further revealing indication of widespread hostility towards the openly pro-big business program of the Liberal-National Coalition government, and disaffection from all parties of the official political establishment.
On the surface, the result means that the government’s majority in the lower house of parliament remains the same, just one seat. The opposition Labor Party retained the four seats it previously held, and the right-wing nationalist Centre Alliance (formerly the Nick Xenophon Team) kept its single seat.
But beneath the surface, the results point to a further breakup of the two-party parliamentary system that has served the interests of the corporate and financial elites since World War II. Candidates claiming to oppose the major parties picked up sizeable votes, as they have during the past decade.
Within the twisted framework of official politics, the voting patterns provided only a pale and distorted picture of the deep discontent over falling real wages, the rise of insecure work, the deteriorating state of health, education and other essential social services, and the rapidly escalating burden of housing and utility costs.
Despite large swings against the Coalition, and its decision to not even stand candidates in two of the five electorates, the opposition Labor Party’s vote barely rose from its historic lows. Nor did the vote for the Greens, who propped up the last Labor government from 2007 to 2013. Among wide layers of the population, the Greens are recognised as providing no progressive alternative to the two party setup.
Significantly, the four MPs who had been forced to quit their seats—due to a High Court ruling that they were possibly entitled to citizenship of another country—were returned to parliament. In fact, the reactionary nationalist “dual citizenship” furore created by the media, the political establishment and the High Court over the past year, was barely mentioned during the protracted by-election campaigns. This suggests that the witch hunt—designed to whip up patriotism and xenophobia—has so far failed to win any substantial popular support.
For Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and his government, the most spectacular defeat came in Longman, an electorate that spans outer working-class suburbs and semi-rural areas north of Brisbane, the Queensland state capital. One of the most impoverished electorates in the country, Longman epitomises the worsening social crisis, particularly appallingly low wages and the lack of health and other basic services.
In Longman, the Liberal National Party (LNP) vote crashed by 9.5 percentage points to just 29.5 percent, an historic collapse from almost 45 percent at the 2013 federal election. If that result were replicated at the next federal election, due before May 2019, the government could lose seven seats in Queensland alone, ensuring its defeat.
The Coalition vote was not helped by its choice of candidate, a former minister in the last LNP state government of 2012–15, which slashed health and social spending. But the outcome was a wider rejection of the Turnbull government’s economic program, particularly its centrepiece of multi-billion dollar tax cuts for the major banks and other big corporations.
Government ministers had depicted the by-elections as a plebiscite on the tax cut plan, which they have been unable to pass through the Senate. This enabled the Labor Party and its trade union backers to rail demagogically against handouts to the “big banks and multinationals,” in order to tap into the mass social and political disaffection.
However, despite the enormous shift against the government, Labor’s vote in Longman rose only 4.6 points to just below 40 percent. This was less than the historical average anti-government swing in by-elections, due to Labor’s own anti-working class record in office and its patently phony rhetoric. Party leader Bill Shorten had backed similar company tax cuts as a key minister in the last Labor government.
As a result, Pauline Hanson’s right-wing One Nation party, which sought to exploit social distress in regional areas and divert political hostility into an anti-immigrant, nationalist direction, gained 16 percent of the vote. This was up 6.5 points since the 2016 federal election, although down on the highs of over 20 percent at last November’s state election.
A similar, but not quite as dramatic, pattern emerged in Braddon, covering areas of north-western Tasmania, which have been blighted by corporate job destruction and cuts to social services. The Coalition’s primary vote fell by 2.5 points to 39 percent, while Labor’s also dropped by 3 points to 37 percent. A local fisherman, who depicted himself as an “anti-politician” independent, gained nearly 11 percent of the vote. Labor retained the seat on the back of his second preference votes.
Both major parties suffered a debacle in the semi-rural seat of Mayo, near the South Australian capital of Adelaide. By presenting herself as an alternative to the two-party system, the Centre Alliance candidate garnered 45 percent of the vote, 10 points up from the 2016 election. High-profile Coalition candidate Georgina Downer, daughter of a former party leader and foreign minister, won just 37 percent, down 1 point. Labor got barely 6 percent of the vote—less than the Greens and far below Labor’s 25 percent vote in 2010.
In the two Western Australian seats, which the government did not bother to contest, Labor candidates were returned, but only with marginally larger votes. In inner-city Perth, the state capital, Labor’s primary vote was just 39.5 percent, up 2 points, and in nearby Fremantle, a once working-class port city, Labor only just won a majority—52 percent, up 11 points.
In these two seats, the Greens picked up 16–18 percent of the vote, largely from disenchanted Coalition voters, but in the more working-class electorates of Longman and Braddon, the Greens vote languished or fell to around 4 percent, expressing growing dissatisfaction towards their orientation to affluent upper-middle class layers, at the direct expense of the interests of the working class.
At the same time, the proportion of people who cast an informal vote, increased from 3.5 percent in Mayo to 9.2 percent in Perth. No statistics are yet available on the numbers who refused to vote at all.
Corporate media commentators voiced alarm at the outcome. Fairfax Media political editor Peter Hartcher warned this morning of a “great fracturing” and a “subterranean upheaval across Australia’s political landscape.” Hartcher, the spearhead of a vicious anti-Chinese campaign over the past two years, lamented the fact that voters were “untroubled” that their MPs had been “ineligible to sit in parliament because they were dual citizens.”
Most of the commentary focussed on the electoral blow to Turnbull’s government. Today’s Australian editorial declared: “It is brutally clear that the government’s political strategy, whatever that is, isn’t working. Nationally it has no strategy to deal with Labor’s anti-business, class war campaign.”
Initial speculation centred on the likelihood that the government would have to drop or modify its company tax cut legislation. This would intensify frustration within the financial elites, with the Coalition seemingly incapable of pushing its agenda through.
In reality, the political crisis is rapidly intensifying. Neither the Coalition nor Labor has been able to form a stable government since the 2008 global financial crash, some 10 years ago.
The latest by-elections portend social and political upheavals, intensified by the potentially disastrous fallout from the Trump administration’s trade war measures and a possible meltdown in the property market and banking system.
Turnbull’s position as prime minister is under threat, even if he has no immediate challengers. While Shorten’s leadership may survive for now, that is only because Labor has made a limited and utterly fraudulent populist appeal to mass anti-establishment sentiment.
Not discussed at all during the by-elections was the bipartisan agenda of alignment with the US in advanced war preparations against China and ongoing austerity to restore the budget to surplus. Nor was any mention made of last week’s US-Australia ministerial talks, where Washington insisted on even closer military ties, or of the draconian “foreign interference” laws rammed through parliament late last month, with immense implications for democratic rights.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Recoome posted:

Five by-elections held across Australia on Saturday gave a further revealing indication of widespread hostility towards the openly pro-big business program of the Liberal-National Coalition government, and disaffection from all parties of the official political establishment.

:words:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/07/30/aust-j30.html

Australian by-elections underscore deepening alienation from political establishment

By Mike Head
30 July 2018

Five by-elections held across Australia on Saturday gave a further revealing indication of widespread hostility towards the openly pro-big business program of the Liberal-National Coalition government, and disaffection from all parties of the official political establishment.

On the surface, the result means that the government’s majority in the lower house of parliament remains the same, just one seat. The opposition Labor Party retained the four seats it previously held, and the right-wing nationalist Centre Alliance (formerly the Nick Xenophon Team) kept its single seat.

But beneath the surface, the results point to a further breakup of the two-party parliamentary system that has served the interests of the corporate and financial elites since World War II. Candidates claiming to oppose the major parties picked up sizeable votes, as they have during the past decade.

Within the twisted framework of official politics, the voting patterns provided only a pale and distorted picture of the deep discontent over falling real wages, the rise of insecure work, the deteriorating state of health, education and other essential social services, and the rapidly escalating burden of housing and utility costs.

Despite large swings against the Coalition, and its decision to not even stand candidates in two of the five electorates, the opposition Labor Party’s vote barely rose from its historic lows. Nor did the vote for the Greens, who propped up the last Labor government from 2007 to 2013. Among wide layers of the population, the Greens are recognised as providing no progressive alternative to the two party setup.

Significantly, the four MPs who had been forced to quit their seats—due to a High Court ruling that they were possibly entitled to citizenship of another country—were returned to parliament. In fact, the reactionary nationalist “dual citizenship” furore created by the media, the political establishment and the High Court over the past year, was barely mentioned during the protracted by-election campaigns. This suggests that the witch hunt—designed to whip up patriotism and xenophobia—has so far failed to win any substantial popular support.

For Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and his government, the most spectacular defeat came in Longman, an electorate that spans outer working-class suburbs and semi-rural areas north of Brisbane, the Queensland state capital. One of the most impoverished electorates in the country, Longman epitomises the worsening social crisis, particularly appallingly low wages and the lack of health and other basic services.

In Longman, the Liberal National Party (LNP) vote crashed by 9.5 percentage points to just 29.5 percent, an historic collapse from almost 45 percent at the 2013 federal election. If that result were replicated at the next federal election, due before May 2019, the government could lose seven seats in Queensland alone, ensuring its defeat.

The Coalition vote was not helped by its choice of candidate, a former minister in the last LNP state government of 2012–15, which slashed health and social spending. But the outcome was a wider rejection of the Turnbull government’s economic program, particularly its centrepiece of multi-billion dollar tax cuts for the major banks and other big corporations.

Government ministers had depicted the by-elections as a plebiscite on the tax cut plan, which they have been unable to pass through the Senate. This enabled the Labor Party and its trade union backers to rail demagogically against handouts to the “big banks and multinationals,” in order to tap into the mass social and political disaffection.

However, despite the enormous shift against the government, Labor’s vote in Longman rose only 4.6 points to just below 40 percent. This was less than the historical average anti-government swing in by-elections, due to Labor’s own anti-working class record in office and its patently phony rhetoric. Party leader Bill Shorten had backed similar company tax cuts as a key minister in the last Labor government.

As a result, Pauline Hanson’s right-wing One Nation party, which sought to exploit social distress in regional areas and divert political hostility into an anti-immigrant, nationalist direction, gained 16 percent of the vote. This was up 6.5 points since the 2016 federal election, although down on the highs of over 20 percent at last November’s state election.

A similar, but not quite as dramatic, pattern emerged in Braddon, covering areas of north-western Tasmania, which have been blighted by corporate job destruction and cuts to social services. The Coalition’s primary vote fell by 2.5 points to 39 percent, while Labor’s also dropped by 3 points to 37 percent. A local fisherman, who depicted himself as an “anti-politician” independent, gained nearly 11 percent of the vote. Labor retained the seat on the back of his second preference votes.

Both major parties suffered a debacle in the semi-rural seat of Mayo, near the South Australian capital of Adelaide. By presenting herself as an alternative to the two-party system, the Centre Alliance candidate garnered 45 percent of the vote, 10 points up from the 2016 election. High-profile Coalition candidate Georgina Downer, daughter of a former party leader and foreign minister, won just 37 percent, down 1 point. Labor got barely 6 percent of the vote—less than the Greens and far below Labor’s 25 percent vote in 2010.

In the two Western Australian seats, which the government did not bother to contest, Labor candidates were returned, but only with marginally larger votes. In inner-city Perth, the state capital, Labor’s primary vote was just 39.5 percent, up 2 points, and in nearby Fremantle, a once working-class port city, Labor only just won a majority—52 percent, up 11 points.

In these two seats, the Greens picked up 16–18 percent of the vote, largely from disenchanted Coalition voters, but in the more working-class electorates of Longman and Braddon, the Greens vote languished or fell to around 4 percent, expressing growing dissatisfaction towards their orientation to affluent upper-middle class layers, at the direct expense of the interests of the working class.

At the same time, the proportion of people who cast an informal vote, increased from 3.5 percent in Mayo to 9.2 percent in Perth. No statistics are yet available on the numbers who refused to vote at all.

Corporate media commentators voiced alarm at the outcome. Fairfax Media political editor Peter Hartcher warned this morning of a “great fracturing” and a “subterranean upheaval across Australia’s political landscape.” Hartcher, the spearhead of a vicious anti-Chinese campaign over the past two years, lamented the fact that voters were “untroubled” that their MPs had been “ineligible to sit in parliament because they were dual citizens.”

Most of the commentary focussed on the electoral blow to Turnbull’s government. Today’s Australian editorial declared: “It is brutally clear that the government’s political strategy, whatever that is, isn’t working. Nationally it has no strategy to deal with Labor’s anti-business, class war campaign.”

Initial speculation centred on the likelihood that the government would have to drop or modify its company tax cut legislation. This would intensify frustration within the financial elites, with the Coalition seemingly incapable of pushing its agenda through.

In reality, the political crisis is rapidly intensifying. Neither the Coalition nor Labor has been able to form a stable government since the 2008 global financial crash, some 10 years ago.

The latest by-elections portend social and political upheavals, intensified by the potentially disastrous fallout from the Trump administration’s trade war measures and a possible meltdown in the property market and banking system.

Turnbull’s position as prime minister is under threat, even if he has no immediate challengers. While Shorten’s leadership may survive for now, that is only because Labor has made a limited and utterly fraudulent populist appeal to mass anti-establishment sentiment.

Not discussed at all during the by-elections was the bipartisan agenda of alignment with the US in advanced war preparations against China and ongoing austerity to restore the budget to surplus. Nor was any mention made of last week’s US-Australia ministerial talks, where Washington insisted on even closer military ties, or of the draconian “foreign interference” laws rammed through parliament late last month, with immense implications for democratic rights.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

quote:

the Greens are recognised as providing no progressive alternative to the two party setup.

Lol

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
See this is why Trots get a bad rap

e: the hyper-criticism of other (mostly) Left-wing groups by people like the SEP/some Trots basically borders on being a 5th column for the Right. Now I'm not suggesting that ice-picks are the answer, but

Recoome fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jul 31, 2018

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Splitswithtomlandbcr.jpg

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Recoome posted:

Like even with a critical lens (some of the free speech poo poo out of the JCU branch), there’s just so much wrong with that article that it basically looks like it’s supposed to be wrong on purpose.

I also love the fact that it’s effectivly excusing the LNP from any wrong-doing, almost like it’s written by some amazing deep-cover agent (I know the SEP is real though). Maybe the SEP can try to use the invasion day rallies to sell more of their poo poo again

Yeah I'm trying to figure the dude out, because the stuff about the NTEU is easily disproved.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Beetphyxious posted:

Yeah I'm trying to figure the dude out, because the stuff about the NTEU is easily disproved.

look he's an increasingly irrelevant Ur-Trot who has given up on attacking class enemies and is now resigned to fighting the true enemy of the people, anyone who takes a left-wing platform and isn't part of the SEP.

Ironically I think he has tenure, or is on track for tenure at UWS so I think that the anti-NTEU is due to the belief that unions are now part of the system that oppresses workers (SDA is an example of this), which is consistent with the overall belief of the SEP.

The great irony is that no-one types their name out as "Doctor Firstname Lastname", because it looks really dumb, and also he is a professor so it should be "Professor XY" at least. At least shorten it to Dr, it's loving obvious what honorific to use due to the PhD qualification.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Coles has hoisted a white flag in the face of angry shoppers aggrieved by having to bring their own bags or pay 15¢ for a "reusable" one, and has promised to give plastic bags away for free indefinitely.

The supermarket chain and its rival Woolworths removed thin "single-use" plastic bags from their checkouts in July and late June, respectively, as a growing number of state governments ban the environmentally damaging items.

But offering only thicker, "reusable" plastic bags for 15¢ each has elicited howls of outrage from some quarters, and led to a series of backflips - including giving the reusable bags away for free for a short period of time while customers adapted to the changes - to quell the outcry.

In the latest backflip, a Coles spokeswoman confirmed on Wednesday that the supermarket would give the 15¢ bags away for free indefinitely.

“When Coles phased out single-use plastic bags on 1 July in Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria and WA, some customers told us they needed more time to make the transition to reusable bags," she said.

"We’ve been delighted to see customers grow more accustomed to bringing their reusable bags from home so they are relying less on complimentary bags at the checkout.

"Many customers bringing bags from home are still finding themselves short a bag or two, so we are offering complimentary reusable Better Bags to help them complete their shopping.”

Customers will continue to pay 15¢ for the reusable bags in Tasmania, where single-use bags have been outlawed since 2014, and in South Australia, where they have been banned since 2009, the Coles spokeswoman said.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Anidav posted:

Coles has hoisted a white flag in the face of angry shoppers aggrieved by having to bring their own bags or pay 15¢ for a "reusable" one, and has promised to give plastic bags away for free indefinitely.

The supermarket chain and its rival Woolworths removed thin "single-use" plastic bags from their checkouts in July and late June, respectively, as a growing number of state governments ban the environmentally damaging items.

But offering only thicker, "reusable" plastic bags for 15¢ each has elicited howls of outrage from some quarters, and led to a series of backflips - including giving the reusable bags away for free for a short period of time while customers adapted to the changes - to quell the outcry.

In the latest backflip, a Coles spokeswoman confirmed on Wednesday that the supermarket would give the 15¢ bags away for free indefinitely.

“When Coles phased out single-use plastic bags on 1 July in Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria and WA, some customers told us they needed more time to make the transition to reusable bags," she said.

"We’ve been delighted to see customers grow more accustomed to bringing their reusable bags from home so they are relying less on complimentary bags at the checkout.

"Many customers bringing bags from home are still finding themselves short a bag or two, so we are offering complimentary reusable Better Bags to help them complete their shopping.”

Customers will continue to pay 15¢ for the reusable bags in Tasmania, where single-use bags have been outlawed since 2014, and in South Australia, where they have been banned since 2009, the Coles spokeswoman said.

"the age of entitlement is over."
-Joe Hockey 2014

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
What a ridiculous country

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007



Didnt need to see this today

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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Synthbuttrange posted:



Didnt need to see this today

Clive is just an internet troll with a shitload of money

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