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Plastic bag ban is both a green nwo conspiracy and good legislation. We have helped saved the planet, with capitalism (something that was bad for the environment used to be free but now costs money. More poor people, better planet). Plastic bags are a silly thing to get upset over, but saving the planet by only letting rich people have the bad things is something legitimate to get upset over. It's like an emotional rollercoaster of ideology.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2018 05:44 |
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You Am I posted:We are like Americans but without the over the top shithead Christianity. At the moment. American Christian history is the dynamic between evangelism and inspired social work. In Australia, by contrast, inspired social work is seen as the outcome of evangelism (America got Whitfield, we got Wesley). Australian Christian history follows closer to the English conflict between the individualism of Protestantism and theological hierarchy of the papacy. The English protestant movement (which came out of men being burned at stakes for translating the bible into English) later developed into atheist Enlightenment ideas (I.e. if salvation is not dependent on works than we can keep going and kill off god and replace him with humans). This is also why Australia has such a problem with the idea of Sharia (apart from racism, which is a big part): culturally, we have rejected salvation by works, and human law is different (fallable, so, open for debate and change) to the law of God.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2018 00:13 |
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Anidav posted:
John Eales noooo
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2018 03:26 |
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Dick Smith is the type of capitalist who has a healthy fear of and respect for the guillotine.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2018 06:25 |
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There's nothing wrong with greens policy: many in this thread have seen (and mentioned) studies that show most Australians are on board with a clean beach and a welfare system that lets them live there. As for negative press: the ALP have managed ok for the past x years with negative press. The problem is their strategy. The fallacy is the greens idea that "It's obvious, it's the best, duh" and that eventually everywhere will go green. Look at the qld state election: for some reason the greens strategy said they had a good chance of unseating a deputy premier (in sth bris). Deputy premiers don't get voted out in qld. The idea was that the gabba "stronghold" would tentacle green votes out into the surrounding areas. This is so dumb and also runs counter to the greens pillar that grassroots wins out. They started with a Top 5 seats to win. Then it dropped to four. Then eventually one (sth bris). Deputy premier kept her seat (like was always going to happen) and the candidate from extremely-wealthy Moggill became the first qld greens MP. Bit of a drive from Gabba to Moggill. Another example is Vic greens running on adani. What a joke. Vic greens running on adani while the qld greens senator visits Melbourne during world environment day. Victorians care about Victoria. People in Melbourne don't vote for qld senators. If the greens got over this "green tide" idea and could stomach supporting seats not in the inner city then the vote would increase. Greens can't compete with the mega political brands elsewhere in the country: not just because they aren't as rich (greens are still rich) but because their whole political brand is anti-political-brand. People want their green to be a local fighter with an unhealthy dislike of politicians, not some inner city wannabe with one ear and both eyes to Melbourne (unless you live in Melbourne then that should be the main priority of your local green, not qld).
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2018 02:34 |
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Don Dongington posted:While everything you've said since returning to this thread is remarkably wrong, this is definitely the MOST wrong you have been so far. Could it be how the greens work the media? No it must be the media that's wrong. This attitude is what's wrong with greens strategists. The idea that the greens are right and it's just the manipulated electorate that's wrong, without coming up with an alternative. Because the greens try and position themselves as lab/lib but nice, they get eaten up by the actual big players. The greens should be working more outside mainstream media: school newsletters, community group meetings etc. People believe word of mouth. But keep on clinging to that 2-8% believing that one day the media moguls will die and then you'll see!!!
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2018 02:51 |
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Some good thought-law following in here citizens, good work, carry on, vote republican
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2018 03:09 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 14:34 |
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Anidav posted:RDN should do a front page interview in The Australian. Australia Needs Dick
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