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This Wednesday, the 4th of July, Tom King gives us Batman #50! It's the event of the century! Batman and Catwoman are getting hitched! Or aren't they?! DC PR have decided to let the BatCat out of the Bat-bag and ruin the surprise with clickbaity goodness. So this thread will contain  UNMARKED SPOILERS discussing the issue in the days up till it's release, so...BE WARNED! SAVE YOURSELF! GET OUT NOW! TILL YOU'VE READ THE COMIC! When it's all calmed down, this should be your regular Bat-hang Bat-Mega-Bat-Thread, and I'll make a better OP. Also, remember to pick up Joëlle Jones' debut issue of Catwoman at the same time as BMan #50. It'll probably be the real star of the show, anyhow  SPOILERS GO! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/KingImpulse/status/1013533593694539776 https://twitter.com/KingImpulse/status/1013534987625385984 https://twitter.com/KingImpulse/status/1013538973204008961 Obviously I haven't read the issue yet but my guess is that it would have worked a lot better if (a) it wasn't marketted to hell and back with special books and covers and poo poo and (b) if it was the midpoint of an OGN rather than a bimonthly book that gives people the perfect reason to stop reading. EDIT: DC Explains Why They Spoiled Batman’s Wedding quote:John Cunningham, Senior Vice President of Sales for DC Comics, wrote the following on a local comic shop retailer Facebook group: Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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Jul 2, 2018 04:33
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Codependent Poster posted:I was gonna pick up the issue, but not anymore. So thanks for saving me money, spoilers! Fuckin' same. Will probably drop it from my pull list altogether after this. Much love to the Bat team, Rebirth's been fun, but I'm tired of spinning in this circle for now.
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Jul 2, 2018 04:37
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This kinda solidifies my lack of interest in DC and Batman. He can never before happy. That's sich a lame status quo. At least when the X-Men did that we will have a Kelly Thompson book out of it cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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Jul 2, 2018 05:35
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Wasn't it Didio who was going on about how superheroes can't be married because they have to make a sacrifice and that's Just The DC Way or some poo poo? I genuinely thought their Rebirth stuff was moving past that "never be happy" nonsense but I guess it's all cyclical. 
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Jul 2, 2018 07:42
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Wasn't it Didio who was going on about how superheroes can't be married because they have to make a sacrifice and that's Just The DC Way or some poo poo?  Yup, we had an era of hope and joy, of Superman being a father, Batman on the road to finding happiness, generally hopeful and now Lois and Jon went off with Jor-El, and Batman isn't getting married.
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Jul 2, 2018 07:56
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How many aunts does this save?
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Jul 2, 2018 08:46
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Elfface posted:How many aunts does this save? It's been a while since we've seen Aunt Harriet hasn't it?
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Jul 2, 2018 08:59
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Meh. King's Batman was generally loving lousy. The one worry about it was that it might have some consequences that would unfortunately make it some degree of necessary reading for future storylines. This just ensures that King's Batman can be safely ignored until the next actually good Batman run which is just how I like it. Put Tom King on a character he actually wrote well like Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner.
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Jul 2, 2018 13:37
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Wasn't it Didio who was going on about how superheroes can't be married because they have to make a sacrifice and that's Just The DC Way or some poo poo? FWIW, I don’t get the sense that King wanted the wedding to happen but was overruled by editorial mandate, given the amount of foreshadowing in his run, but who knows.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:48
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Lmao at dc balking at a romance and marriage 80 years in the making. Double lmao at batman jot being allow3d to have any happinesd because reasons
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Jul 2, 2018 15:13
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On the one hand, I don't read Batman, I don't generally care about the Batbooks anymore so eh. But on the other I thought it was a lovely idea and was really hoping they'd go through with it so hearing they've poo poo the bed and continued to stick with the most boring safe option is hugely disappointing regardless. It was an idea that generated a lot of goodwill from people and this is just a really lame thing to do with it.
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Jul 2, 2018 18:43
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I just don't understand why DC is so reluctant to let Batman show some growth. Out of all the characters in the comics industry, he's the one who has been best positioned in 80 years to show actual changes. You can have Dick permanently become Batman while Bruce still sticks around, and that would even explain how he can be on the Justice League while also on the streets of Gotham all the time. This even explains how you can have one darker tone Batman and one lighter tone one, or one more heavy on being a detective while the other is more heavy on being athletic. gently caress, you can even then pair up a Robin with each of them without having to name one after a Hamburger restaurant chain. The reasoning that "Batman can't ever be happy or else he won't be Batman" is just as dumb as "Spider-Man can't ever not be a loser otherwise people won't identify with him anymore" as far as to why they can't be married. Haha and I just found the last page which people were saying sets up everything going forward. This poo poo is so dumb. So spoilers: 
Codependent Poster fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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Jul 2, 2018 18:52
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Why the gently caress is Thomas there?
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Jul 2, 2018 19:07
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Wow that page is even worse than I'd imagined. Also isn't that the Gotham Girl hero from the first arc that I read before I quit the book? Did she become a villain again?
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Jul 2, 2018 19:11
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I also want to bring everyone's attention to the bottom right, where Skeets is.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:15
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Codependent Poster posted:I also want to bring everyone's attention to the bottom right, where Skeets is. Wait wait wait wait wait. What. No. I do not accept this.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:16
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i have enjoyed most of King's Batman but the idea that it was all building to something, anything, but particularly that is laughable
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Jul 2, 2018 19:20
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Arkham needs to hire more custodians or something because that's way too many stray skulls to just be lying around.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:46
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Codependent Poster posted:I also want to bring everyone's attention to the bottom right, where Skeets is. This is the dumbest thing in that panel.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:52
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Mr Hootington posted:This is the dumbest thing in that panel. Yes it is. It is the dumbest of the dumb things. I heard that he kind of butchered the character during his arc but what is going on with this.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:56
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I'm actually impressed at both how dumb and how poorly executed this all is. I've only mildly cared about Batman for ages thanks to the overexposure but boy can I empathize with one boneheaded decision ruining everything. Jeez that picture is inane. It's all going to be dumbass psycho pirate nonsense, too, isn't it?
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Jul 2, 2018 19:59
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X-O posted:Wow that page is even worse than I'd imagined. She never was a villain. X-O posted:Yes it is. It is the dumbest of the dumb things. I heard that he kind of butchered the character during his arc but what is going on with this. The assasination of booster gold by the coward tom king.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:59
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Mr Hootington posted:She never was a villain. OK, that was the brother then right? My bad. It's been a while.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:00
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X-O posted:Yes it is. It is the dumbest of the dumb things. I heard that he kind of butchered the character during his arc but what is going on with this. he wrote Booster as a mentally handicapped sociopath. like, he sees Hal Jordan commit suicide in front of him and his reaction is literally "that was awesome!"
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Jul 2, 2018 20:00
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Barry Convex posted:he wrote Booster as a mentally handicapped sociopath. like, he sees Hal Jordan commit suicide in front of him and his reaction is literally "that was awesome!" Hmm. That doesn't seem right. I'll just pretend the Injustice universe is the main universe from now on.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:00
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king's plan for the next 50 issues is batman going on the rebound and listening to old sad songs while damien complains about his taste in music
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Jul 2, 2018 20:01
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I bet the next 50 issues of Batman is more commentary on how everything is poo poo and everyone is a terrible person and nobody should be happy and you're stupid for thinking otherwise!
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Jul 2, 2018 20:02
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X-O posted:OK, that was the brother then right? My bad. It's been a while. He wasn't either. They both got mind controlled by Psycho Pirate and driven insane. Batman was rehabilitating her secretly and Duke was falling in love with her last I knew.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:08
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Codependent Poster posted:I bet the next 50 issues of Batman is more commentary on how everything is poo poo and everyone is a terrible person and nobody should be happy and you're stupid for thinking otherwise! the dumb thing is Batman already has a father figure, a best friend, an actual son, several adopted sons or wards or other people he's a father figure to, and multiple pets. but a wife? TOO FAR
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Jul 2, 2018 20:12
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Mr Hootington posted:He wasn't either. They both got mind controlled by Psycho Pirate and driven insane. Batman was rehabilitating her secretly and Duke was falling in love with her last I knew. OK my memory is just poo poo then. I thought one of them turned bad and caused a whole bunch of destruction or something. But I concede I didn't care for it much so I didn't retain much knowledge. But regardless if she's never been a villain I wonder why she's here with them all.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:13
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Barry Convex posted:he wrote Booster as a mentally handicapped sociopath. like, he sees Hal Jordan commit suicide in front of him and his reaction is literally "that was awesome!" Among the problems in that arc, I was okay with this bit. Booster knows he created a hosed up fork in the timeline and embraces all the mistakes because he figures it'll all be behind him soon enough anyway. Hal ring-blasting himself in the head is just a cherry on top of the rest of Booster's spiraling fallout.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:44
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I’m honestly happy for my wallet if King tanks the run. With the wedding I was thinking of picking up issues 10-50 or whatever from after I dropped it. The Joelle Jones Catwoman might have more room to play around with too, which is interesting. I won’t lie that I prefer a femme fatale Catwoman who plays the field.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:51
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Barry Convex posted:he wrote Booster as a mentally handicapped sociopath. like, he sees Hal Jordan commit suicide in front of him and his reaction is literally "that was awesome!" That's just a normal reaction to Hal Jordan dying.
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Jul 2, 2018 23:22
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I don’t read Batman but I just gotta know what their gameplan was to marry and keep their secret identities. It raises a billion questions and presumably tipped everyone and their mom off to the fact that Batman is Bruce Wayne.
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Jul 3, 2018 00:20
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TheHan posted:I don’t read Batman but I just gotta know what their gameplan was to marry and keep their secret identities. It raises a billion questions and presumably tipped everyone and their mom off to the fact that Batman is Brice Wayne. The official line was always "Batman and Catwoman are getting married, Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle are single". Which, in retrospect, probably should have been a sign that something was up. I dunno. I'm so frustrated by King's run at this point. I had actually disliked the I Am Suicide/I Am Bane bits a lot, and the Catwoman...B-plot? for lack of a better term, kept me going. Now it turns out that that was just more of that same "more of the same" main plot. I kind of hope King floors it to the "death of Batman" stuff from the first arc so we can reboot the ol' continuity machine and give this another shot.
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Jul 3, 2018 00:32
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Codependent Poster posted:Haha and I just found the last page which people were saying sets up everything going forward. This poo poo is so dumb. So spoilers: Boy did my mind went through some whiplash processing this: Oh poo poo! Bane was behind it all! Wait that doesn’t really make any sense but hey there’s Hugo and Psycho Pirate and Ventriloquist ok and wait Gotham Girl? What’s she doing here wait gently caress is that god drat Thomas Wayne? Bane went to Flashpoint to grab him to stop a wedding? What? Wait I thought Joker was dead I guess not also he’s good with Riddler now even thought they literally had a war not too long ago? Ok sure that I can almost buy all of this so far... ...is that Skeet? *zooms* Yeah that’s Skeet. What in the gently caress? I’m out.
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Jul 3, 2018 01:27
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You know thinking about both the amount of publicity the engagement received, and howucg they hyped up the wedding I still think it's going to happen. This is probably going to tie into the event comic that King is set to write.
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Jul 3, 2018 02:00
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https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/1013913973194940416 Holy poo poo man, King is getting destroyed by the comments from people. Like I said in the other thread it's been a long time since I've seen such a universal dislike for something like this. DC has nobody to blame but themselves. Doing 100 variant covers and Wedding Albums and sending out fake invites to stores as advertising for something that's not going to happen, if it ever does, for who knows how long is really biting them in the rear end. They hyped this up way too much to not deliver on it. Just imagine all the shops doing big midnight sales for a wedding issue with no wedding.
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Jul 3, 2018 02:29
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You know what would turn it around? If whenever Joker reveals himself as the priest, the hidden riddle in the substituted vows is read and Bane throws the organ at Robin, Batman pulls an Ozymandias. "Did you really think we'd throw an elaborate ceremony with all these guests if there was any chance you could prevent it? We eloped last week. This is just the reception."
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Jul 3, 2018 02:37
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