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Assuming the military divides on ideology then Red America is boned. The left would hold the coasts and could be supplied indefinitely. Chicago, Detroit and Milwaukee are prebuilt strongholds that can't be isolated without attacking Canada. The heartland is worth gently caress all when the majority of the cities and urban areas in the South and Midwest are going to break blue and require pacification and an extensive garrison.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Assuming the military divides on ideology then Red America is boned. The left would hold the coasts and could be supplied indefinitely. Chicago, Detroit and Milwaukee are prebuilt strongholds that can't be isolated without attacking Canada. The heartland is worth gently caress all when the majority of the cities and urban areas in the South and Midwest are going to break blue and require pacification and an extensive garrison. This is the cringiest poo poo ive ever heard
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LeoMarr posted:This is the cringiest poo poo ive ever heard yeah agrred, the war will be cringy and funny af really fat ppls smakin each other
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Assuming the military divides on ideology then Red America is boned. The left would hold the coasts and could be supplied indefinitely. Chicago, Detroit and Milwaukee are prebuilt strongholds that can't be isolated without attacking Canada. The heartland is worth gently caress all when the majority of the cities and urban areas in the South and Midwest are going to break blue and require pacification and an extensive garrison. Free CBoyardee.
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Jul 8, 2018 11:42
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Post your map. I know it's dumb
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Jul 8, 2018 16:57
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LeoMarr posted:cringe go back to reddit nerd
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HorrificExistence posted:It seems like the USA is gonna have a mass collision of all of its bullshit by at least 2020. probably spurred on by the election: BrutalistMcDonalds posted:yeah who knows. it could blow up really badly. on the other hand, if the counter-demonstrators' plan works, then they'll bring out a lot of liberals and socialists. it could be like that one PP rally after the guy who attended their events killed those people on the train. a lot of people turned out and i don't think there was any violence.
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Aug 2, 2018 21:48
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Congrats you have discovered modern protesting. Something that people have done for literally centuries at this point without it resulting in civil war.
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Aug 2, 2018 22:22
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this will be a street fight lol just a preplanned street brawl
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Again yes this is not new, people have organized protests and expected violence like this for hundreds of years, usually from the state. This is like history of the labour movement.txt The difference is that you're just noticing it. Like probably the most famous example dates from 1936: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street tldr, antifa and a bunch of commies go and beat up a bunch of fascists and their copper escort. A very good thing all in all and amazingly not the prelude to civil war. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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Aug 2, 2018 22:55
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In this thread we take any and all protests and magnify them into the powder keg being lit. nika nika nika
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Like mate, the number of people dying in ideological street fights is virtually nonexistent compared to the number of its own citizens the US government directly kills with guns every day, but that's not a civil war.
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OwlFancier posted:Like mate, the number of people dying in ideological street fights is virtually nonexistent compared to the number of its own citizens the US government directly kills with guns every day, but that's not a civil war. where do we draw the line? Most IR methodology considers 25 battle deaths a year to be a war
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Then welcome to the class war that has been going on probably since forever? Like fundamentally I don't at all understand thinking that these protests are remarkable, they aren't. They've been perhaps less common and less reported for a few decades than they once were, but that's it. Things almost exactly like them have happened many many times before for a very long time. And constant, much greater violence on a much wider scale than them has been ongoing for a very long time. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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Aug 2, 2018 23:10
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If Civil war breaks out in the United States, doesn't it just become a race to see who can get their hands on a nuke first? https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/nuclear-truckers/
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A race to get one nuke? What would that do? Aren't there thousands? Whoever controls those wins (and/or probably starts a world war).
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Aardark posted:A race to get one nuke? What would that do? Aren't there thousands? Whoever controls those wins (and/or probably starts a world war). More. Also, a month and change back they stopped the down-blending operation line used to decommission warheads not in active service at the Savannah River Site. Putting those warheads backing to service doesn't take all that much work, frankly. So, 100% not 7,000ish, which I think was the U.S.'s maximum back in the day, but potentially more than what we have by official treaty, whatever that number is.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Assuming the military divides on ideology then Red America is boned. The left would hold the coasts and could be supplied indefinitely. Chicago, Detroit and Milwaukee are prebuilt strongholds that can't be isolated without attacking Canada. The heartland is worth gently caress all when the majority of the cities and urban areas in the South and Midwest are going to break blue and require pacification and an extensive garrison. I mean upstate New York would be a huge red blob in the middle of that and further up the coast you get more conservative but go off king
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lol... gently caress off. america is nowhere near that cool anymore.
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i fought in the old revolution on the side of the ghost and the king of course we were so young and i thought that we were winning i can't pretend i still feel very much like singing as they carry the bodies awaaaaay
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Aardark posted:A race to get one nuke? What would that do? Aren't there thousands? Whoever controls those wins (and/or probably starts a world war). Don't know how big the various nukes are. How many nukes are needed to blow up the General DC area, or the bigger cities: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, BENGHAZI 2 posted:I mean upstate New York would be a huge red blob in the middle of that and further up the coast you get more conservative but go off king Yeah but they're not southern republicans. Wouldn't they just use their money to buy off the New Yorkers around them as a sort of make shift defense against the poor.
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Jericho reruns on netflix have gotten you guys going nutty I mean come on, nukee really? Do you people realize nukes are launch code protected you dont think the US GOVERNMENT of all organizations hasnt thought this fact out
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Assuming the military divides on ideology then Red America is boned. The left would hold the coasts and could be supplied indefinitely. Chicago, Detroit and Milwaukee are prebuilt strongholds that can't be isolated without attacking Canada. The heartland is worth gently caress all when the majority of the cities and urban areas in the South and Midwest are going to break blue and require pacification and an extensive garrison. I don't suppose you've spent any time at all around military folks in the last decade or two, have you? Just a hint, the people volunteering to serve in decade three of the Forever War In The Middle East are unlikely to be leftists.
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Just lmfao if you think a civil war is possible in this country with netflix and free porn now I'm not even getting into how tech giants and the military are completely immune from a traditional People's War
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Slutitution posted:Just lmfao if you think a civil war is possible in this country with netflix and free porn now Lol yeah let’s use Maoist tactics in a world with flying robots armed with air to ground missiles- have fun with that.
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Rather than game theorying out about when or how a civil war is going to happen. Let us ask a more interesting and relevant question. What line would the government or fellow citizen have to cross to cause you personally to take up arms individually? For example say weekly neo Nazis parades became a feature in major cities around the country? Or say the government decided to raise tax rates to be confiscatory say 100% of all income above 100k. Or civilian ownership of arms is made practically impossible. Or a religions houses of worship all being sized and closed. Or the children of a minority group are all taken from thier parents. Or the police rountinely murder citizens of X group with impunity. Where is your line to actually kill someone? No protesting doesn't count as violence. Also I am of the general opinion that protesting is only legal specifically because it has no effect. I.E. those in power will enable you to have all the sound and fury you want, but anything that couse result in actual change is illegal. KingFisher fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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You first.
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I'm predicting the violence in 2020 will reach 1968 levels, but nothing like a "civil war." It's going to be between alt-right and antifa retards who are too stupid to realize that the real power brokers in this country are not going to be participating in street fights. It's going to be entertaining, though.Bastard Tetris posted:Lol yeah let’s use Maoist tactics in a world with flying robots armed with air to ground missiles- have fun with that. Thanks for agreeing with me, I guess? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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drilldo squirt posted:You first. I actually have defined many of these lines for myself. I'd be happy to get into each line and why. I brought this topic up because it's similar to an advanced directive, IE telling the doctor's how much effort to take to save your life. I for example don't want to be kept alive if I am in a coma or similar state. I have thought of similar rules for when I will take up arms. "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of natuee and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." Just update the following text. KingFisher fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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Start with answering your own question without being intentionally vague and word saladly.
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Slutitution posted:I'm predicting the violence in 2020 will reach 1968 levels, but nothing like a "civil war." It's going to be between alt-right and antifa retards who are too stupid to realize that the real power brokers in this country are not going to be participating in street fights. It's going to be entertaining, though. protip both sides are well aware that the other side are not the ones in charge, that's not why fights happen.
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Slutitution posted:I'm predicting the violence in 2020 will reach 1968 levels, but nothing like a "civil war." It's going to be between alt-right and antifa retards who are too stupid to realize that the real power brokers in this country are not going to be participating in street fights. It's going to be entertaining, though. Well yeah, I just think it’s funny when open carry dipshits think they’re going to overthrow the government with small arms.
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KingFisher posted:Rather than game theorying out about when or how a civil war is going to happen. Let us ask a more interesting and relevant question. The final line would be not having enough food and either you or your kid. When people are hungry that's when the real killing will start. San Francisco banned a white nationalist parade and then they had normal San Fransisco parade, so if Nazi's start marching regularly in an area a person can run to other parts of the country. Another way for people to start killing is when state or a group of states can officially recognized themselves as a country and declare war, and mobilize an army. Slutitution posted:Just lmfao if you think a civil war is possible in this country with netflix and free porn now A lot of the tech giants still rely on the US infrastructure electrical grid. You don't need to blow up the hoover dam, just seize it and cut the lines, and the ability to use drones is reduced as well as a lot of internet usage.
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Nearly every election in Kenya there's violent protests, roadblocks and killing. There's periodic famine and poor access to healthcare and high poverty rates and they STILL haven't had a civil war. In the US there's like arguments about healthcare and stuff and high income disparity... there won't be a civil war anytime soon
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:The final line would be not having enough food and either you or your kid. When people are hungry that's when the real killing will start. Shhhh, I wanna see how long a cspam thread can last in D&D.
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Anyone ITT who wouldn’t organize (or at least participate in) a mob liberate a child concentration camp by force of arms is a coward and would be literally complicit in crimes against humanity.
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I don't fancy going all the way to America just to get myself shot but I'm with you in spirit.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Anyone ITT who wouldn’t organize (or at least participate in) a mob liberate a child concentration camp by force of arms is a coward and would be literally complicit in crimes against humanity. Well yeah, most people , like you , are cowards.
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Dolphin posted:Nearly every election in Kenya there's violent protests, roadblocks and killing. There's periodic famine and poor access to healthcare and high poverty rates and they STILL haven't had a civil war. Tho tbh civil wars are often sparked by much less. For example the US revolution and Civil War, inspired by a small tax increase and the prospect that maybe at some point the right to own slaves could be limited, respectively.
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