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Reggie Bush He was so up and down. He was like 950-1000 yards both seasons in Miami. I just feel very “he wasn’t that bad!” And “he wasn’t that great” at the same time,
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Play posted:I think you got that phrase right because he was an undrafted free agent but he did get a lot of hype. Didn't pan out, obviously, and in fact he's unemployed right now. I googled it questioning myself and apparently it's supposed to mean something like a loud brash person who's heart is in the right place and their good qualities are hidden because they're a jerk? I assumed it meant like, an uncut diamond as in once you cut it it becomes much more valuable. Huh, Merriam Webster which is probably much more reliable than random google results says ": one having exceptional qualities or potential but lacking refinement or polish" which is much closer to how I always understood the phrase. I'll go with I had it right in the first place.
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I understood it more as "a thing of great value with an origin that belies that value"; in this case a good running back who was drafted as a free agent. Most of my understanding of this phrase comes from Aladdin so...
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I thought CJ Spiller was going to be the next LeSean McCoy. That 2012 season was crazy.
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This video reminded me about Toby Gerhart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASWVwZIsst8
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a neat cape posted:Yeah and he was never a top 5 RB in like, any season Yes but that is far from mediocre. Isiah Crowell is mediocre, Frank Gore is good to very good.
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Quiet Feet posted:I thought CJ Spiller was going to be the next LeSean McCoy. That 2012 season was crazy. I mean, good on him for not becoming the next shady? Also Frank gore is deffo mediocre. He's serviceable. Hall of alright.
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I'd buy an argument that Frank Gore is the Vinny Testaverde of RBs if only because that means the Emmitt Smith is likewise a mediocre stat compiler.
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iwentdoodie posted:
Mediocre is hangs around on rosters and performs okish, not a bellcow for 12 consecutive years. I seriously don't understand the Frank Gore hate in this place.
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Do you guys even know what mediocre means? I would argue that it's literally impossible for a guy who was the prime back on his team for many years to be mediocre; that is high above average for guys who play that position in the NFL. Also he's good. He wasn't even bad last year at all and that's at the very end of his career. Not mediocre imo
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here are the tiers for those of you who are so confused elite mediocre poo poo
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Play posted:Do you guys even know what mediocre means?
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Mediocre running back means you're not worried about the position going into the season, but it wouldn't hurt to look for an upgrade in the coming draft.
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Cash Monet posted:Mediocre running back means you're not worried about the position going into the season, but it wouldn't hurt to look for an upgrade in the coming draft. Ah, the RB version of the Alex Smith conundrum. (different things but I'd call Alex "good" for the record, just since not absolutely needing a quarterback is a good place to be)
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Cash Monet posted:Mediocre running back means you're not worried about the position going into the season, but it wouldn't hurt to look for an upgrade in the coming draft. you have to be coming off a 1k yard season to not be worried though. like, andre ellington was never mediocre then. beanie wells was mediocre for maybe 1 season.
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i guess that owns all of the frank gore non haters though.
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Mediocre running back means they are right in the middle: the average back is NOT their team's star running back. So guys who a team would willingly trade year to year; bit players; guys drafted high but didn't work out and lost the starting job, etc. IMO a dude who owns the first string spot for years upon years is not mediocre. Obviously everyone is going to have a different opinion on what the average back is like and that's fine
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Mediocre running back means your dumb rear end coach uses him for no loving reason and he vultures TDs and kills drives all game long
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Doltos posted:Mediocre running back means your dumb rear end coach uses him for no loving reason and he vultures TDs and kills drives all game long Also this
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"He doesn't fumble" Reuben loving Droughns doesn't get more than 2 yards either, Kevin
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Play posted:Mediocre running back means they are right in the middle: the average back is NOT their team's star running back. So guys who a team would willingly trade year to year; bit players; guys drafted high but didn't work out and lost the starting job, etc. IMO a dude who owns the first string spot for years upon years is not mediocre. Obviously everyone is going to have a different opinion on what the average back is like and that's fine yeah, although it's tough in a thread dedicated to mediocre rbs, so there's already some talent bias towards benjarvus green-ellis than say william powell
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The first running back (for my team) I remember is Herman Heard. The man was decidedly mediocre.
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Doltos posted:"He doesn't fumble" Droughns was just good enough in 2005 to convince one browns fan here, shooter mcgavin i think was his username, that he and Charlie frye were going to be the heart and soul of an up an coming browns team of contenders. Turns out nah
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haven't read the thread, posting frank gore
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The “Frank Gore is mediocre” hot takes sure are hot but they aren’t anywhere near as hot as those people’s inevitable melt downs when he gets into the Hall of Fame. As for a real example: Glen “I’ve already told Christ it’s time to go” Coffee
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haven't read the thread, posting frank gore
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Tim Biakabutuka. Or hell, just every Panthers running back in the entire history of the franchise, except maybe DeAngelo.
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PantherWill posted:Tim Biakabutuka. Or hell, just every Panthers running back in the entire history of the franchise, except maybe DeAngelo. Cam Newton is 3rd on the Panthers all time rushing yards list behind J Stew and DeAngelo. For a team that depends on the run they sure don't have many marquee running backs.
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Earnest Graham. But you gotta give him credit for performing as well, if not slightly better than the constantly injured Cadillac Williams, they guy he backed up over the course of way too many seasons. Mediocre overall, but everything you could reasonably want in a backup. Year in and year out, he consistently did not suck, which was his job and why I remember his name and forgotten a bunch of other arguably better RB's. He's got my vote for best mediocre RB.
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thrilla in vanilla posted:Theres a guy on the bengals named Cedric Peerman. This is probably finally the year he gets canned. I love Ced as long as he isn't getting offensive snaps. Bernard Scott is my fav bengals mediocre HB.
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Update: Sproles has nearly 20k all purpose yards and is doing one more season. I withdraw his name from this thread. 
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Antowain Smith. I remember he was the Patriots' primary back between like 2000-2005 and on a team of utterly unremarkable guys, he somehow was even more unremarkable.
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Not even a Ravens fan but I was a big Le'Ron McClain supporter. Never averaged more than 3.9 yards, but went off in 2008 for 900 yards and 10 touchdowns.
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Play posted:This is a strong argument. 2.6 and 2.7 ypc respectively are pushing the definition of mediocre, i'd say they were more "bad" than anything.
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miss u chester
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Vhak lord of hate posted:2.6 and 2.7 ypc respectively are pushing the definition of mediocre, i'd say they were more "bad" than anything. Harsh but fair. I gave them a bit of a pass because it was such a horrible season for Seattle in the run game but looking into it Chris Carson and JD McKissic both managed over 4 ypc. Lacy especially is clearly done (yet somehow got more attempts than everyone else).
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I know he's been mentioned, but I still can't believe Shonn Greene had back to back 1,000 yard rushing seasons for the Jets. I've never seen an RB so unable to break a tackle. Greene would get into the secondary and someone would just push him and he would fall over.
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Eifert Posting posted:I love Ced as long as he isn't getting offensive snaps. I know who Ced is purely because he has like 79 speed in madden and I always think " who the gently caress would keep a guy that slow on the roster" and every year I'm surprised he's still in the game Edit - well I just fact checked this and I guess I'm thinking of someone else because he has like 90 speed in madden WinnebagoWarrior fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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