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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
beyond demographics there's a big difference

AOC is a good campaigner who put immense work into a serious effort, and cynthia nixon is a bland campaigner who is mailing it in

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

why is this chloe

is there a serious contention that cynthia nixon is as skilled or serious a political animal as ocasio

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Cerebral Bore posted:

It's very simple: Cynthia is going to win because the pundits think that there's no way she will, and the pundits are wrong about everything.

that's a fair take lol

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Calibanibal posted:

Nah

she won because of good policy. Any idiot with a heart can do it

let me guess, you don’t live in New York

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Calibanibal posted:

Born and raised lol

Well, sorry but I disagree with your takes

“Good ideas will win” is the most utopian poo poo imaginable and is like, platonic liberalism

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Zhulik posted:

I contend that peak liberalism would be "smartest ideas will win"

tru

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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more like The Onion Dome....since they’re working for PUTIN!!!

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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look at these liberal brainworms....she's convinced that actually campaigning helped her win...disgusting

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1012816020476743680

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
"commonsense"

"across the aisle"

"bipartisan"

"fresh thinking"

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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right wing liberals are particularly taken with 'fresh thinking' it seems like

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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mastershakeman posted:

fiscally liberal socially conservative

what's funny is this is a vastly bigger voting bloc than the inverse despite being treated as a punchline

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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oh and i forgot "sexy"

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

weird how hillary referred to rfk in comparison to obama later in the compaign........

that never gets old

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
it's funny how "the narrative" has gone from

day 1 - AOC won because the district became more latin
day 2 - AOC won because the district became more gentrified
day 3 - AOC won because the district became more latin

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

loquacius posted:

I'm not sure anyone of consequence ever picked up the day 2 narrative

I mean honestly days 1 and 3 are mostly a donut-twitter meme because nobody who isn't Extremely Online or living in AOC's district has a take on her at all really

im both :getin:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Rastor posted:

Who's the goon who was defending Lamb, this must be a few points taken off the grade

lol it was me

i concede that this is very succ

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
nobody cares

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
if I wanted to read :qq: about my neighbors voting for tormp because the mean east coast elitists cruelly called them nazis I’d read one of the million New York Times profiles to that effect

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
lol

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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literally a :decorum: argument from the internet’s edgiest liberals, cool

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Please show me the post where I did this

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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if you care about any posts in the suck zone you should be crucified for your own good

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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frankenfreak posted:

Also, focusing "here be racists" instead of stuff like

is basically giving up on reaching these people.



Yea this I agree with. But the “they only voted trump because ppl called them nazis! is civility bullshit

that down yonder post in an old suck zone OP was p good on rural messaging I thought

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I haven’t read D&D in years but the most prominent Forced Relocation advocate that I can think of was Kevin D Williamson of the National Review

Curious if anyone approvingly shared his screed

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Jazerus posted:

consolidation is literally the fundamental engine of capitalism so it's unsurprising that neolibs want to consolidate everything. it's a desperate prayer to the unfeeling god of market efficiency

if only we could somehow consolidate all the payers into one, single one...

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

while looking for that election analysis from the daily yonder, i found this discussing dread abuela's statement about 'red america'


goddamn, does this party have a loving problem.

Here’s the one i was thinking of ~ dems turn their backs on rural America

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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That was Earl Browder who headed the Communist Party in the 30s and 40s.

Bill is his grandson.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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GunnerJ posted:

This is from a while back but holy poo poo is that "we love Chelsea's mom" sign real. Holy poo poo.

it was a whole song, lmao

'chelsea's mom / has got it going on'

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
i'll be nice from now on :)

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Jeb! Repetition posted:

The neoliberal meme that everyone left behind by the economy just needs to learn coding is some of the dumbest poo poo

New Ides to Make Democrats the Party of the Future

A modern contract must take the challenges and opportunities of the 21st century head on. We recently issued 12 bold policy ideas for the digital economy that would do just that. They would all provide Americans with the opportunity to earn a good life.

One idea, an American Investment Bank, would allow more capital to flow to people throughout the country. Americans are entrepreneurs — it’s time their government buoyed this spirit. If you’re an entrepreneur with a good idea, it will be easier to attract investment capital where you live instead having to move to Boston, New York or Silicon Valley.

A Small Business Bill of Rights would guarantee speed, flexibility, and parity to every single small business in America. For small business owners, it will be easier to grow your business, and navigating government bureaucracy will take a fraction of the time and resources it takes today. You’ll once again be able to better challenge your competitors.

We must provide opportunities to gain skills that lead to middle class wages outside of a traditional two or four-year college. We would dramatically expand apprenticeship programs to create 1 million positions across the country.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
:frogsiren: :siren: :frogsiren: BULLOCK :frogsiren: :siren: :frogsiren:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
remember when eric holder and barack obama were going to team up after the election to defeat gerrymandering

and then obama decided to create content for netflix instead

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

i get that biden is polling highest right now but it seems insane to me that people think he’s actually realistically #1 right now given #metoo and the leftward swing it feels like we’re in

Biden threatened to physically assault the sitting president of the United States, making him by far the most left wing candidate in recent memory and the only choice for adherents of revolutionary people's war

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
oh yea for those who don't click through, that list of "new ideas" is written by third way think tank

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Ruzihm posted:

i like to imagine it's M+E+L telling stalin to shut the gently caress up

...are you contending that stalin was a liberal

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
see now, this is good messaging

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

this is my favorite poo poo

via politico:

President Bill Clinton veered sharply off message Thursday, telling CNN that Mitt Romney's business record at Bain Capital was "sterling."

"I don't think that we ought to get into the position where we say 'This is bad work. This is good work,'" Clinton said. "The man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold."

Clinton also went on to say that Romney's time at Bain Capital represented a "good business career."

The Obama campaign is in the third week of an all-out assault on Romney's time as a corporate buyout specialist — accusing the GOP nominee of bankrupting companies and laying off workers all while pocketing a profit for himself and investors.

But the negative tenor of their attacks on an influential segment of Wall Street have made some Democrats uncomfortable. Clinton is the highest profile Obama surrogate so far to show discomfort with the attacks on Bain, with the former president even praising the company and Romney's record. Newark mayor Cory Booker and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick also both declined to press the attack against Bain.

In Booker's case, he released a YouTube video clarifying his comments after calling the Obama attacks (and Republican counter-attacks on Obama) "nauseating" — all while being publicly chastised by top Obama staffers.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

gradenko_2000 posted:

Nixon was a liberal. He pushed for healthcare reform and established the EPA

this take has been around for a long time and i get why it has contrarian appeal

it obfuscates historical realities & context though

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Jeb! Repetition posted:

The tragedy of school vouchers is they actually would be better than our current system IF you had simple laws that schools couldn't refuse students or charge more for academic activities than the voucher amount. But that defeats the purpose for most supporters because they just want a system where their kids won't have to be around blacks/poors

I don't agree, I think having multiple "competing" schools would just dilute the quality overall even given those stipulations. What leads you to this conclusion though?

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