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Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

ground floor in the self-flagellation station

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Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Gillibrand? What immunity does she have?

I don't know much about Gillibrand at all beyond her being a "progressive" succ dem, but I think what the dude meant was that Trump's going to walk all over any opponent whose response to being mocked by Trump is to be indignant about it and say focus-tested poo poo like "When they go low, we go high" rather than just swinging back. Maybe he thinks Gillibrand is more of a scrapper like Bernie and Biden?

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Shear Modulus posted:

after a long day at the mining factory the working men of america gather together over some beers and grouse that democrats and republicans cant come together to design common-sense corporate tax cuts

*woman finally has a chance to sit down after a long day working her two jobs as a cashier and frycook and putting her kid to bed* Sigh... if only someone would give new college graduates a deferment on their loans, if they plan to open a business

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

anime was right posted:

candice isnt real or shes trying really hard to get a 300k job yelling at people on twitter which lets face it they will probably give her

Isn't she the one that set up a giant donut botnet to astroturf centrist comments on twitter?

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


Yo everyone loving click this Ing is hype as gently caress

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Shark Sandwich posted:

lol he was such an Uncle Tom for Hill Shills

Bernie isn't above criticism, don't be like the very guerhillas you hate and condemn anyone who speaks ill of your dude

Also REALLY don't do it like that

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

https://twitter.com/BeKindOkk/status/1023297358115885058

PRUMP

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

bernie's veep is going to be susan sarandon to own the libs

I'm sure you get this a lot, but, avatar/post combo

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

KomradeX posted:

I love that pointing out obvious hypocrisy is just always dismissed as Whataboutism, than again that was kind of how we responded to it when the Soviets would bring that up anyway

"Never let somewhat decent be the enemy of completely loving garbaggio" - The Centrist Credo, Hill Tzu's Art of Snore, pp. 69

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Spatula City posted:

AOC has hatred absorption powers - the more hate directed her way, the more powerful she becomes. these fools, they do not understand.

It's the most loving hilarious thing that they are doing the same thing to her that the Democrats and their paymasters did to Trump in 2016: just loving give them a platform constantly and blast their message on repeat while a pundit no one gives a poo poo about frowns disapprovingly and says "this is not who we are"

Trump is just about the most legendarily lucky motherfucker on the planet and yet he possesses an equally profound stupidity, and the corporate oligarchs that run this cursed country have gone full Habsberg

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

docbeard posted:

Keeping journalists away from political campaign events isn't great, you know, just for future reference in the event America ever has any journalists.

It's basically just a private meeting except for people who can't afford a $1500 plate of baked chicken. The lack of transparency at private political meetings is only bad because it's obvious the candidate is talking about how they will actually govern to the only constituents they give a poo poo about, the ones that can afford to drop ten g's for a handshake.

Of course, AOC holds a private meeting for the people she actually gives a poo poo about - the poor and vulnerable - and suddenly she's a fascist who is out to crush the press just like Trump. The naked worship of money here is galling.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Acelerion posted:

Member when hillary used a noise machine to keep journalists from hearing a fund raising speech?

Well you see people had to pay to hear that speech so it's only fair that the free press doesn't have access to it.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

turmp standing accused of Literally All The Crime will not matter in any way, because just as Ford protected Nixon and Obama protected Bush, Pence will protect him in order to preserve the bloated power of the office of the President.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

basic hitler posted:

tbh getting rid of ted cruz would be nice but starving out the succdems is way more imperative in the quest to liberate the working class.

gently caress, I feel my brain breaking in the same way it did just before the 2016 election.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Shear Modulus posted:

bernie is going to win

but lmao avenatti is probably going to be one of the least bad dems after bernie and warren

He's actually total poo poo and barely to the left of Trump iirc, and I don't even mean that in a cynical "succ dems are basically republican" way, I mean he is probably to the right of Manchin or Jones

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Probably Magic posted:

I give Truman credit for firing and thus humiliating Douglas MacArthur but he also let him conduct the Korean War to begin with, so mixed bag.

My favorite Dougie Mac Fact is that the famous brilliant genius masterstroke landing at Incheon he's so lionized for was literally just him saying "welp gently caress it" and they loaded up all the dudes and shipped them there sight unseen, absolutely no intelligence indicating the area was safe. If Kim Il Sung had so much as mined the harbor the marines would have gotten loving slaughtered. MacArthur was such a goddamn joke.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


They oughtta rename the bathrooms after him

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

He couldn't even get McConnell to agree to rename the stupid building after McCain, the most pointless loving gesture and one which memorializes a piece of poo poo war criminal to boot. Jesus, gently caress, how the gently caress does Schumer keep winning elections?!

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


Even with the legal disclaimer at the bottom I can't tell if this is some unaffiliated PAC or official Democratic Party stuff.

How easy is it to just whip up some scam PAC with a dumb donate button and a bunch of buzzwords like this? PACs are so unaccountable, it must be easy to rip people off.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Lawman 0 posted:

Where's the punchline

The punchline is America

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


Willy-wants-the-succ zone

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


lmfao from the comments

https://twitter.com/MatthewPrince14/status/1036739685224251397

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Willa Rogers posted:

:getin:

Political analyst Bill Schneider predicted on Tuesday that 25 Democrats would launch presidential bids to challenge President Trump in 2020.

"My guess is that in 2020, we're going to see 25 Democrats running for president. Every Democrat thinks, why not me?" Schneider told Hill.TV's Joe Concha on "What America's Thinking."

"I'll take the over. It might be 30," Hill campaign reporter Reid Wilson interjected.

:yeshaha:

A total loving bloodbath with the centrists fighting over which precise hex value of bland beige would be ideal is the absolute best thing that could happen.

VR Native American posted:

100 democrats parachute onto an island... Only one leaves!

PolicyUnknown's Battlegrounds

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Spatula City posted:

Biden, Sanders (WHO IS NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT), Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, Booker, Bullock, Landrieu, Klobuchar, Murphy, Inslee, Kaine, Patrick, Ryan, Castro, Merkley, Garcetti, Hickenlooper, Brown, Avenetti

I got to 21, who did I forget?

I say this completely devoid of any sort of humorous intent whatsoever, with nothing but solemn, ashen gravity: Hillary Clinton

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Nothus posted:

Aside from Zuck, there has to be some tech dipshit(s) with more money than brains itching to give it a go.

Honestly I'm too loving traumatized to say poo poo like "C'mon Musk give it a go you loving idiot" because odds are our hosed up reality will bend him into the Oval Office and he will pass an amendment to the constitution that forces Grimes to hook back up with him

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

I would bet my life (but not something even more precious than that, my SA forums account) on the last three standing in the 2020 Dem Primary being Biden, Bernie and Bvenatti.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

you are stupid

Bernie's age would matter a lot more if it was obvious it had an affect on his physical and mental acuity the way age obviously affected Clinton, whose constitution once failed to withstand the sweltering test of a 78-degree afternoon. However, it's obvious that he's still as sharp as he's ever been, and I don't think a significant amount of people that refuse to vote for him will do so solely because they think he's too old.

I think Bernie has also established himself as the genuine article and I think aside from the Dems running interference for Hillary so loving hard the only reason why he lost in 2016 was his lack of recognition. Saying someone like Kamala Harris, who is a total no-name and has no unique qualities beyond "the black woman statistically most capable of winning the nomination", can win the nomination off of pure triangulation is plainly delusional. Disregarding the fact that she's a loving cop and made her career off putting black men in jail for life on marijuana possession charges, the entire argument for her being a viable candidate basically boils down to "She's Hillary but younger and black". Except, it ignores that Hillary had an army of political agents supporting her; everywhere from the news media, to fundraising, to within the Democratic party, to pop/movie stars and her husband. Harris commands not a shadow of the resources that Clinton had, and is roughly about as uninspiring a politician to boot. She's not going to win. The most likely poo poo Dem to get forced on us by the media is someone like Kennedy, that has a massive amount of support from the capitalist class. People like Harris, or Booker, or Gillibrand, who adopt the corporate doublespeak of centrism to win the support of these forces only get the scraps. When it comes time for the primary, they'll all struggle to be the corporate favorite, and tear each other to pieces in the process, while Bernie, who actually bases his campaign on justice, cruises along.

I think the best sign of either Bernie 2020 or Orb Prophecy 2020 is that the corporations still haven't picked a champion yet. When you look at the huge swathe of corporate candidates jockeying for the nomination, they are all about equal in terms of being an empty vessel for the MIC, Banks, Insurance companies, etc. to pour money into. Every attempt to make a media sensation out of bland chumps like Booker or Kennedy has fizzled or backfired. They have yet to find someone like President Obama who is both an incredibly appealing and talented campaigner, and utterly immoral. That's what gives me hope that either things are going to turn around in two years or at the very least the system is going to keep getting torn apart by our current drooling ape of a president.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Taintrunner posted:

just lol if you're getting behind a rich white millionaire lawyer because he looks cute on the cable news

I've said this before and I'll say it again, Avenatti is probably the only candidate outside of whichever which empty suit becomes Corporate-Anointed that has a real chance of beating Bernie in 2020. If the MIC, banks, etc. start rallying behind him early it could be some seriously bad news.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Taintrunner posted:

bernie sanders will brutalize him in any debate because lol porn star millionaire lawyer president versus working class champion

That's honestly a lot closer of a debate than you might think. I think you're right that Dem voters in general are definitely not as receptive to a tRUgp-style campaign as GOP voters are, but someone being relatively young and delivering a message that says "we should absolutely not examine and criticize ourselves because TRUPM is what is ruining our country" is exactly the kind of thing the shittiest Dems and their paymasters would find appealing.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Ruzihm posted:

avenatti, a lovely capitalist, gtfo with that trash

I'm not saying he would be good for the country, he'd be awful. I'm saying he's a potential threat to overcome. Even right here in C-SPAM we have a big thread of people celebrating him and I'm not sure who's ironic and who's genuine.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Agean90 posted:

and it sure as poo poo won't be a senator with succ chumers loser stink on them

I mean the real lesson to take away from the 2016 campaign is that the chaos could have broken in literally any direction, it was exactly as likely for Meg Whitman to win the GOP Nomination instead of Trump

Zhulik posted:

I have some seriously bad news

:whitewater:

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Now this is the kind of rhetoric I can get behind

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Agean90 posted:

god I hope so :jackbud:

IT'S HER THIRD TURN

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


What the hell happened in February?

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Typo posted:

Truman was a great president in hindsight

Thethings which killed the New Deal Coalition were the civil right/voting rights act of 1964. Truman's desegergation of the army and the Dixiecrat run in 1948 was the foreshadowing of that

Truman nuked Japanese civilians, was a union buster, was a strong supporter of Israel, escalated the Cold War, and what domestic policy programs he tried to push to help the poor and promote civil rights failed miserably due to his poor leadership. He was also only President in the first place because the Democrats ratfucked Henry Wallace. He sucked.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

MeatwadIsGod posted:

I don't really understand the position I've seen a few people bring up that frames Sanders as a "compromise candidate." Wouldn't that imply there's a more leftist candidate planning to run in 2020 when....there isn't one? It's giving me 2016 primary CSPAM flashbacks.

To add on what people say, it's pretty much that a lot of us would consider Sanders to be the extreme far right of what is moral and acceptable to us - he's not interested in solving what we view as the "illness" (capitalism), but he is at least dedicated to treating the "symptoms" (income inequality, police brutality, debt slavery, our lmao healthcare system, etc.) to the best of his ability. To people like us he's a compromise because even if the entire government was made up of people like him we'd still be fighting for two reasons - one, to prevent a backslide into barbarism like what happened in the US from the 70s to the present, two, because as long as the US is Capitalist there will always be forces looking to crush people for profit.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Concerned Citizen posted:

wow owned by guy no one has ever heard of

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

as opposed to neera tanden, a household name whose visionary political ideals are constantly discussed over the dinner table by average americans

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

MizPiz posted:

Could we try resurrecting Ho Chi Minh? I would absolutely vote for him over Bernie.

Unironically and whole-heartedly

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

It's a good ad but unfortunately everyone sitting on that board voted for Hillary.

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Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

f u n y p a g e n u m b e r

I wish Obama had been the Anti-Christ like the mobility scooter-bound woman in my undergraduate government class had predicted eight years ago

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