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Jan 20, 2017


Barry Convex posted:

and certainly I think Greenwald has embarrassed himself,

:laugh:

https://twitter.com/Wilson__Valdez/status/1017833678565756929

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Jan 20, 2017


pospysyl posted:

The second screenshotted tweet isn't true. Clinton emails had been targeted prior to that night, just not the accounts specifically referred to in that section of the indictment.

The specific text of the indictment says this:

quote:

“For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the conspirators attempted after-hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton’s personal office,” according to the indictment, referring to spearphishing, a common tactic used to target email accounts.

laughing forever that her emails actually did matter

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Jan 20, 2017


WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

I don't think the Democrats are this bad

Lmao wow gently caress pre-Corbyn Labour

Maybe one day we can refer to the Democrats in the same way. pre-Bernie Democrats

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Jan 20, 2017


America Works

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Jan 20, 2017


Crowley, Feinstein

Who's next to get destroyed by DSA

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Jan 20, 2017


It's Not Her Turn Anymore

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Jan 20, 2017


some anti from reddit of all places. from r/politics of all subs

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Jan 20, 2017


really queer Christmas posted:

it’s cool and extremely good for the left to encourage this environment.

it is. the day we recognize republicans for the traitors to society that they are will be a good day

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Jan 20, 2017



barbara lee is good and it would be extremely good for her to become speaker

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Jan 20, 2017


Grondoth posted:

I know it's common in the succ zone to downplay this russia stuff cause it's a good excuse for the dems to do ffffffffuckin' nothing, but there was a russian spy doing poo poo with the NRA and 12 russian agents were indited for election bullshit and Trump straight up said it was a good idea for russia to help with the investigation by having their agents come look at our election infrastructure; this is... kinda a bit of a holy poo poo they're jsut saying it out loud moment?

Forget it, Grondoth, it's the Succ Zone.

Grondoth posted:

I think the best thing to do is kinda what Bernie said; tie it into international oligarchs running everything. Cause that's what russia is, it's the end result of rich assholes stealing all the state's resources and becoming SUPER rich assholes who run their country and want more money. I think it's a mistake to wave this away, one because it's kinda bonkers and no one should be meddling in elections, including us and we do it all the time; and two because it makes every republican look really bad and their whole party needs to be destroyed for us to make progress.

Bingoooooooo was his name-o

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basic hitler posted:

I know posting about posting is frowned upon but while i miss the gbs thread greatly this place is way nicer and feels like i never left home in a lot of respects. Its cool and i like it. Thats all and if i eat poo poo for saying this i understand.

welcome friend

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Jan 20, 2017


The Panera vote?

Heh,

Watch this,

https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1021415733698400256

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Jan 20, 2017


anime was right posted:

hell yea. she'll do until we get a medicare for all person that can replace her, but she's at least not a complete chickenshit like pelosi.

barbara lee is for M4A, are you thinking of someone else

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/mattsgorman/status/1021405557595557889

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Jan 20, 2017


anime was right posted:

she should update her website then lmao

while digging into this I saw a couple familiar names pop up

https://www.healthcare-now.org/blog/dnc-drafting-committee-votes-against-single-payer/

quote:

YES votes:
Bill McKibben
Rep. Keith Ellison
Dr. Cornel West
Deborah Parker
James Zogby
Rep. Barbara Lee

NO votes:
Carol Browner
Paul Booth
Wendy Sherman
Neera Tanden
Luis Guttierez
Alicia Reece
Bonnie Schaefer

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Jan 20, 2017


I think Gillibrand is the least bad option of the centrist bunch but absolutely in no way do I think it would be "better if she won", what?

Even if you could pressure her into signing legislation she would still have wide-reaching executive authority and cabinet appointments that we wouldn't be able to pressure her on

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GalacticAcid posted:

i think there could be pressure applied. she would not want to come into inauguration day facing street protests over her cabinet choices, i dont think.

i've been wrong before plenty of times but i don't think my logic here is stupid idk

I have doubts that we'd be able to stir up Trump-sized protests over the usual cadre of empty suits instead of Literally The Exact Person Who Wants To Destroy This Agency appointees

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Jan 20, 2017


beto is bad but also significantly better than ted cruz

vote for him and keep on pushing for leftists

LinYutang posted:

Left Twitter is like 90% Simpsons references

hmm

nah

Corky Romanovsky posted:

The map, dark places really like or dislike a jobs guarantee?

there is a very helpful legend right there in the image for your brain to process

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Jan 20, 2017


Corky Romanovsky posted:

Maybe my phone brightness isn't high enough, but the 25% and 75% ends essentially become black.

completely sincerely you may want to look into being evaluated for color blindness

the entire country is on the blue spectrum

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Jan 20, 2017


Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Yeah Beto sucks but actually beating Ted Cruz would own so much

A foothold into Texas would matter pretty significantly

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Jan 20, 2017


Venom Snake posted:

The most powerful argument for socialism is a moral one. There is nothing incorrect in her tweet.

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Jan 20, 2017


checking in on this lovely person and this post from roughly a year ago, because Tad Devine taking the stand at Manafort's trial reminded me of how thoroughly this woman detailed his Plot against Mother: https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Ashakestweetz%20devine&src=typd

https://twitter.com/Shakestweetz/status/893123485496725504

which was a long polemic against leftists because it's incredibly intersectional and progressive that democrats are garbage centrists. but really it's worth skimming to see how indignant she becomes. anyway,

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Jan 20, 2017


Concerned Citizen posted:

the funny thing is tad devine is not far-left bernie brother. he's just a consultant who has worked with bernie for years, and works for numerous candidates. he didn't work in ukraine because lol russia, he worked there because american consultants can go international to earn absolutely insane amounts of money for virtually no work.

Yeah he worked for Kerry and Gore, he's as standard as it comes

Though it does say something about the lanyard profession doesn't it

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1024696818544861189

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/CandicePDX/status/1024791572133507072

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Jan 20, 2017


Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

zoux, wj and fishmech were definitely the worst and only wj is still around cspam, pretending to be a leftist

GalacticAcid posted:

computer parts

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anime was right posted:

i remember 11/9 pretty vividly. i just kind of stared into space all day and yet it was still yesterday in my mind.

I was still drunk when I woke up, stumbled downstairs to the living room, turned on the TV

The world was already spinning and it didn't help when I confirmed that, yes, Donald Trump was the president and I didn't imagine it in a horrible dream

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https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1025020966487961600

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Shear Modulus posted:

also obama endorsed in a california state house race. the district is one of the most dem in the country and includes oakland and berkeley. the endorsee buffy wicks is a white ex-obama staffer and her opponent is a black woman lgbt socialist lol

barack obama is scum

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/interfluidity/status/1024804927502254080

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really queer Christmas posted:

who was the one that argued gillibrand would be ok? i offer now as the time to make that argument again

I think she's the least bad of the bad dems (unless you count Warren in that group, then it's her) running in 2020. I don't like her but from that whole bunch I think she has the best chances at actually winning the primary. pretty much this:

docbeard posted:

Basically the way Gillibrand distinguishes herself is by having slightly better political instincts than the rest of the succ crowd, which is by way of saying that she's capable of pretending to be progressive for minutes at a time without accidentally screaming about being a cop or voting against a symbolic non-binding drug importation measure because you love your pharma donations that much.

She probably reaches the lofty heights of "least worst of the not actually good candidates",

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alsothere posted:

i'm trying to imagine what trump would say about bernie if he won the nomination. would call him a hypocrite for owning more than one house and an expensive jacket, would he go full red scare, or would he just struggle coming up with anything big enough to smear him with?

Trump has two angles and will probably take both

1. he's a wacko who doesn't know what he's talking about, he's subscribing to a dead ideology that's failed repeatedly, he never accomplished anything does he really think he can start now
2. full-out white supremacism and racial fearmongering. talk about refugees and say that sanders wants to throw open borders and let in millions of people who will displace you from your homes etc. "his policies are just the beginning"

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1024973876269334528

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Agean90 posted:

on the one had the polls are not good, othoh :matters: lmao gently caress polls :matters:

polling primaries is tough

polling multiway primaries is tougher

polling for a candidate that will win or lose on the back of millennial turnout is nearly impossible nowadays

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The Muppets On PCP posted:

they frontloaded the primary schedule pretty heavily

nearly 2/3 of delegates will be awarded by the end of march. super tuesday alone is gonna be about 1/3

how much of that was because they wanted to give the elected candidate time to recover and rebuild going into the general election, and how much of it was because they wanted to deny the chance of another dark horse challenger building steam like Bernie did?

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1025374459992129537

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Gio posted:

reminder that our current president was taped admitting to sexual assault.

gaffes mattered in the old world, and really they probably never mattered in the first place. it just seemed that way and the media ran with it.

everyone else who's tried the Trump route has gotten burned incredibly hard

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/RAlexJimenez/status/1025382094594293762

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Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/1025435870676111360

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Jan 20, 2017


GalacticAcid posted:

(don't drag suck zone bullshit there please, it's a good & informative thread)

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