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Sep 4, 2018

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Taintrunner posted:

Barack obama is a liberal white supremacist who endorses Chicago PD blacksites for torturing and traumatizing poor black kids, gently caress this gentrifying sack of poo poo

It's sad when you realize that Cornel West was the most public leftist that said this while he was still in office. At least it's great that his horrible legacy is getting torn to poo poo now, though.

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Sep 4, 2018

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StashAugustine posted:

hitman 2 looking good

Tobias Reaper 2020

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Sep 4, 2018

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Willa Rogers posted:

:getin:

Political analyst Bill Schneider predicted on Tuesday that 25 Democrats would launch presidential bids to challenge President Trump in 2020.

"My guess is that in 2020, we're going to see 25 Democrats running for president. Every Democrat thinks, why not me?" Schneider told Hill.TV's Joe Concha on "What America's Thinking."

"I'll take the over. It might be 30," Hill campaign reporter Reid Wilson interjected.

One or maybe two will not be absolutely revolting.

Once the winner in 2020 is Trump or some boring old white guy centrist that doesn't actually roll back anything Trump did, I hope y'all will realize bourgeois democracy is pointless and join some Trotskyist organization and come impotently protest things with me

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Sep 4, 2018

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anime was right posted:

the absolute best part of the jungle primary is there's gonna be like 5 different rich idiots backing their favorite corporate dem so they're all gonna cancel each other out. none of them are gonna all get behind one person. obama coalition, clinton coalition, moderate republicans that hate trumps decorum. i mean they're all the same group, but there's different actors in them.

lol this is exactly how the GOP establishment ended up with Trump against their will. Would be hilarious if the same exact thing gets Sanders in.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Concern trolling centrists whining about "division" and how it weakens the party and using the Tea Party as an example like the GOP didn't then go on to make America almost a single party state sans presidency in the years that followed the Tea Party's rise.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Rand alPaul posted:

Karl Marx on MSNBC owns.

Karl Marx on Fox News would own more tbh

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Sep 4, 2018

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Rand alPaul posted:

Want to see the Karl Marx version of the Ocasio-Cortez policy positions graphic they showed.

• Means of production for all
• Proletarian militia with assault weapons
• Mobilizing against lumpenproletariat
• Bourgeois democracy reform, end capitalism
• Class justice / Expropriate bourgeoisie
• Curb Wall Street existence, restore Extraordinary Commissions.

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Sep 4, 2018

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v e n e z u e l a

(that was good though, thanks)

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Sep 4, 2018

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JcDent posted:

Trotsky had an armored train and a guard detail dressed in crimson leathers, so I think you're missing the point.

I'm a non-denominational Trot, it was a dig on the 10,000 politically irrelelvant Trotskyist orgs in America and not my boy Mr. T

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Sep 4, 2018

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Top City Homo posted:

can someone explain the difference?







Russia is an evil belligerent power that wants to rule the world.

America is great because America is good.

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Sep 4, 2018

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The only thing I can think of with Salazar is it's because she's BDS. The transatlantic pearl-clutching centrist media's already got themselves banging on all cylinders pushing the "Corbyn is a worse version of Hitler" story so it's probably easy to fire off some poo poo at her right now.

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Sep 4, 2018

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punk rebel ecks posted:

Admittedly I haven't read/watched BBC in almost a decade so I'm not sure if the state of it has changed. I will still stand by the comparison with PBS though.

Well PBS does run Frontline episodes that carry water for imperialism. There's been tons of poo poo about Afghanistan and Saddam's rape rooms etc. over the years.

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Sep 4, 2018

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The Nastier Nate posted:

Nothing would make me happier then to see Corey Booker get Jebed! When he runs for president.

Actually that’s not true, there are somehow worse dems than Corey Booker, who says the dems can’t have several jeb!s

The party is like 95% Jebs.

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Sep 4, 2018

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As a socialist socialist the only hope I have for a Sanders administration is rolling back the worst executive things Trump has done. I have zero faith he will end imperialist wars, cut back defense spending, get medicare for all through, etc. etc.

Just putting it out there first so I don't sound like some fanboy when I say that I will be absolutely shocked if Bernie doesn't sweep the primary with the greatest of ease.

What's left of democratic supporters that still buy into neoliberal horseshit (an ideology with no constituency outside of a few million bourgeoisie) will be divided 30 ways, and for everyone else are at least slightly discredited by association and support for the Hillary disaster. Bernie is the only one left that has a shred of credibility and a built in following and infrastructure ready to hit the ground running.

I do hope he wins.

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Sep 4, 2018

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https://twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/1038137623615696901

I wish I didn't like The Orville.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Shear Modulus posted:

lmao lincoln's faction was literally called the radical republicans

The Radical Republicans were opposed to Lincoln for being a moral coward.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Echo Chamber posted:

I don't watch The Orville. :colbert:

Since Star Trek: Discovery became an un-self aware Starship Troopers with genocide and cannibalism, The Orville is the only Star Trek left so I have no choice. /ot

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Sep 4, 2018

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https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/05/the-dismal-frontier

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Sep 4, 2018

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Rastor posted:

and for those who haven't seen it, The Orville is the former with a few extra lame jokes tossed in

It's actually pretty good tbh. The jokes don't get in the way and it can be pretty funny sometimes. Otherwise it's basically TNG. The ethical dilemmas, the episodes based around weird scientific concepts, etc.

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Sep 4, 2018

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It basically means 100% of 2020 candidates will endorse M4A now. Which also means that when we do get "M4A," it will be means-tested "access" worthless garbage that's anything but actual single-payer without co-pays. Then we have to begin this whole loving charade all over again when Avenatti-care ends up sucking poo poo and not letting people go to the doctor when they're sick.

How can anybody be a democrat?

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Sep 4, 2018

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comedyblissoption posted:

just a reminder that we would have abject poverty and misery even with star trek technology under capitalist ideology

Capitalism can't exist with Star Trek technology, though. Replicators make all resources infinite, make factories obsolete, which makes value an obsolete concept, which makes wage labor and markets obsolete. It's kind of a cop-out so they can portray a utopia that didn't have to be created through violent revolution and classicide because CBS wouldn't produce something that was overtly Leninist.

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Sep 4, 2018

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It's probably going to be Obamacare but with the public option this time, or end up like my Arizona AHCCCS: free at the point of use, but ran by United Healthcare for no reason other than to give some corporation a way to suck money out of it without providing any value. In that case we might get what we want at the user level but it will cost 9 trillion dollars a year and end up being abolished because it can't be reconciled with the 20 trillion dollar military budget.

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alsothere posted:

replicators weren't a thing until TNG though

and DS9 retconned federation history with the Bell riots so class warfare was essential in creating it's utopia

but post-TOS is the vast majority of the franchise now. Limiting it to the TOS lore (which has been completely retconed at this point, just try to decide whether money does or doesn't exist in Kirk's time) is arbitrary.

the Bell riots added some class spice to the backstory but it didn't change. According to First Contact (which came out after the "Past Tense" two-parter) it was the Vulcans that basically came down and ended all strife on Earth with a wave of their hand, or at least inspired humanity to just agree to be nice to each other all the sudden.

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Sep 4, 2018

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I feel like even saying the word "deficits" is a partial submission to the right's framing of issues that should be purely about morality. It needs to be eradicated as a thing that exists as a political tool because it's not real.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

more good sane and smart replies, someone count the times people say he isn’t a dem

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1038174308793823238?s=21

a decent amount of loyal democrats have no political convictions at all, it's just sports for people that don't like NFL. Bernie doesn't count because he's not a contracted team member.

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Sep 4, 2018

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The entire health insurance industry should be expropriated without compensation.

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Sep 4, 2018

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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

People blame health insurance industry too much and the supply side not enough.

I know, I'm just saying. I think every other industry should be expropriated, too.

Calibanibal posted:

Idea

Step 1: get hurt or sick
Step 2: circulate your qi to repair wounds and expel poison from your body

I've been studying the 9 ninjutsu hand signals of power. I think if we can't get M4A a ninjutsu-based healthcare system could be a fallback plan.

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Sep 4, 2018

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ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Well the public should be compensated for the sins of the industry by the executives heads.

It's the industry that's not being compensated. The public is compensated by having their wealth and assets now.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Larry Parrish posted:

works for me. has anyone looked into mass production of ohomyo magic talismans

we should play Nioh together

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Sep 4, 2018

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I almost spit my drink out when I saw "Ultimate Bone Broth"

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Sep 4, 2018

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One of these days the voters will be so impressed by how dignified the democrats are they'll award them votes out of respect. Uphold Sorkin Thought.

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Sep 4, 2018

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got any sevens posted:

but ferengis still exist

They wrote their way out of that IIRC by saying gold-pressed latinum can't be replicated somehow and then making Ferengi really care about it. Also because all non-human races are fanatical monocuoltures, they probably would have just agreed to ban replicators or something. Either way Ferengi are a mistake within their own rules.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

roddenberry's utopia was stupid and he should have had the intelligence or the guts to just say workers owned everything


:agreed:

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Sep 4, 2018

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Nonsense posted:

All you have to do is tell them Bernie will be their president and they go wild

Grand Marshal Hillary Clinton is eternal president in succland though. Since she was robbed by the interference of foreign devils, all subsequent elections are invalid. Eventually it's going to evolve into something like the Reichsburgers in Germany.

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Sep 4, 2018

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docbeard posted:

The Federation is a wealthy society and they've done a pretty good job of spreading the wealth around, but clearly they are not in any sense post-scarcity.

I don't think the transport credits have to do with material scarcity but a limited amount of physical public space where you can put transporters and not have it look like an eyesore. I haven't memorized the technical manuals and all that because I'm not a total nerd, but transporters probably require enough on-site bulky equipment and power crap that makes it impractical to install one in every person's home. So it's a way of making sure the lines aren't 10 minutes long because people feel like taking a dump on another continent just for the fun of it.

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Sep 4, 2018

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If you don't love Israel more than your own country you're a neo-nazi.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Larry Parrish posted:

I can only really remember Nick Mullens impressions of them

the Mullen impression of Jordan Peterson is the only valid one

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Sep 4, 2018

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I'm sure that useless turd actually does have a base of support in the party. The point is the party sucks.

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Sep 4, 2018

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Yinlock posted:

if the donors like you then you're clearly a terrible human being

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Sep 4, 2018

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Demographics are destiny was the brainworm eggs.

the demographics thing is probably true, but more like 35+ years from now. liberals actually thought we'd go from GWB to democratic single party state within 8 years. the boomercide has to take place first (naturally or not)

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Sep 4, 2018

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Larry Parrish posted:

Demographics are meaningless and would never result in a one party state, unless it was a state which only allowed one party

all the death of the white majority would really mean is the death of white supremacy politics (barring some white revolution to impose minority rule, not ruling that out), capital will find a way to sucker the non-white majority to keep itself rolling

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