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Marxalot posted:I am of the opinion that the Democrats are a waste. Contrarily, I argue that the Democrats are a mess.
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Fiend posted:I'm serious. Don't make me come down to Moscow and go all Billy Jack on your rear end. 
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Jul 14, 2018 20:06
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cheese posted:He's not the hero we need, he's the hero we deserve. Also not a hero, and we don't deserve anything.
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Jul 14, 2018 20:07
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Raskolnikov38 posted:its incredibly cringe but non-main characters almost make it worth watching It was a decent encapsulation of what certain sorts wished politics to be back in the early 2000s, and yeah the supporting cast carried a disproportionate amount of the weight due to how unbearably smug the most of the leads were written as.
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Jul 14, 2018 21:11
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Skypie posted:Were there storylines about stamping out unions There's one where the President basically declares the market to be infallible and compares trying to do anything at all to help American workers to be analogous to King Canute ordering the incoming tide to recede. This is meant to be deep and meaningful.
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Jul 14, 2018 21:19
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i will never not lol that bartlet's big winning policy, that he literally pins his relection on, is a tax credit for college tuition. Same deal with that late season bit where the leads, sans Bartlet, all gather and Leo gives his "we can accomplish more in 100 days than we will for the rest of our lives after we leave the White House" speech and they all start brainstorming progressive-ish things the administration should pursue in its remaining time in office. Literally none of it ever gets mentioned again for the rest of the series even in passing.
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Jul 14, 2018 21:36
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Raskolnikov38 posted:tbf most of that season was focused on the santos/vinnick campaigns Well sure by that point it was all campaign stuff with a side of "will he pardon Toby?!" but seriously they couldn't even have the odd reference to some of it? Edit: For the record I wish he had not pardoned Toby because he was the most insufferable dickhead of the lot by a country mile.
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Jul 14, 2018 21:39
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Raskolnikov38 posted:man i should get high and give WW a hate watch. rn i'm thinking and loll'ing about how sorkin tried to write toby as the old guard bolshevik/radical in the group but he is instead the archtype for the democratic leadership looking at the wreckage of 1972 and going "we gotta get more racist" Toby's seeming entire purpose on the show was to be an rear end in a top hat and browbeat anyone who tried to improve anything other than by the smallest possible increments, over periods of time comparable only to tectonic drift.
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Jul 14, 2018 22:35
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WampaLord posted:This repulses me on a fundamental level Allow me to grant you some small solace, then.
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Jul 14, 2018 23:32
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Willie Tomg posted:
The look of simmering frustration on Bernie's face will be priceless, shortly before he destroys the fools.
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Jul 15, 2018 17:15
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Stairmaster posted:Anime is good tho 
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Jul 16, 2018 19:47
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Jeb! Repetition posted:When I think of Hillary Clinton, the words that come to mind are charming, magnetic, warm, nice and funny He's not the only one who's claimed she could turn it on when she felt like it, particularly in intimate settings. That those instances seem always to coincide with the person in question being perceived by the Clintons are someone of influence or celebrity is telling.
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Jul 17, 2018 05:08
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cheese posted:Canada did it, switching to a province pooled system and saw real benefits in student achievement while actually spending less. Turns out "fixing" education is simple as "take some of the extra money rich districts have and give it to poor ones". Vermont did something similar with Act 60 back in 1997, which resulted in a marked improvement in school funding and student performance for poorer parts of the state (like mine, though I was almost out of high school at that point so I didn't see much of the changes firsthand). It was passed in something of a rush due to it being the result of a state supreme court decision that forced legislative action, had what I will charitably call a rocky implementation, and I trust you'll be shocked to learn that the richer school districts cried bloody murder at the dirty poors in the NEK getting any of their money. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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Jul 17, 2018 22:06
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Calibanibal posted:Hopefully another Biden relative kicks the bucket and he gets scared off again He can't have that many left.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:28
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Vox Nihili posted:Hillary Clinton = Captain Janeway And shouldn't.
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Jul 19, 2018 21:24
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ThndrShk2k posted:Living rurally while doing telecommuting/working from home is cool and good. North Hero isn't at its most pleasant at some times when Congress is in session, to tell you the truth.
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Jul 20, 2018 18:01
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Tortoiseburger posted:Bernard Sanders - WHO IS NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT would have won.
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Jul 20, 2018 22:26
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:watching the ocasio-welder-sanders rally and god drat do these kansans love bernie It's amazing how crowds respond positively to people who they believe actually give a poo poo about them and want to make their lives better.
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Jul 21, 2018 00:57
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Shear Modulus posted:obama was the only democrat who was not braindead and could figure out that if he wanted to win he had to tell the donors to calm the gently caress down and let him lie about the public option and closing gitmo and getting out of iraq The mainline Democrats have been chasing the ghost of moderate suburban Republicans who'll jump ship and vote democrat any minute now for decades now, trying in vain to make Bill Clinton's lightning strike again. Doesn't matter if they alienate the left and depress democratic turnout, they're just so sure there's this untapped wellspring of GOP moderates who can be convinced if only they kowtow snivelingly enough.
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Jul 22, 2018 18:49
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The worst one is how she planned to make college affordable by giving students tax breaks. Tax breaks are New Democrats' answer to everything because they think it will make conservatives stop thinking of them as the "tax and spend" party (it won't). In this case it does nothing to help if the student is fresh out of high school without a job, or going to school full time, or disabled, or pays less in taxes than the $2,500 cap Look man, you can't just build a library. 
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Jul 22, 2018 19:27
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FreakerByTheSpeaker posted:I was under the impression the feds were caught completely flat footed by the collapse of the Soviet Union. The actual event caught most everyone off guard as did the speed of collapse. Gorbachev becoming general secretary was presumed to be the latest round of Soviet reformism that would patch over the weaker parts of their economy and grant some superficial relaxation of social and political controls while getting them out of their nightmarish quagmire in Afghanistan, not herald the beginning of the end.
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GalacticAcid posted:i just don't have a ton of faith in bernie either. We know, you never miss an opportunity to mention it.
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One thing that quite often gets left out, or intentionally suppressed, is how protest movements that preemptively declare themselves to be strictly peaceful and non-disruptive are the easiest loving things in the world to ignore by those they seek to target. It's one of the reason that the "peaceful" standard of social activism is held in such unattainably high position by those in power, both to guarantee any opposition against them will either be toothless, or easily delegitimatized and thence crushed as "non-peaceful."Former DILF posted:remember this poo poo 
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Jul 23, 2018 22:01
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The Muppets On PCP posted:It’s about time. The Democrats may be “looking for big, bold ideas,” including single-payer health insurance, but they should heed two things: Source your quotes.
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Jul 23, 2018 22:33
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Matt Zerella posted:There's a good tell when it comes to lovely dems/libs/centrists and its all about "deserving". These are people who think prisons should be complete hellworlds and no one inside deserves any kind of opportunity to rehabilitate, or the old welfare queen chestnut. As for the Bernie thing, lots of people might have went Bernie/left to a point but thats about as far as they went, they didn't read anything or just aren't willing to break out of bad dogma thats been hammered into them for years. "God's poor" vs "Devil's poor."
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Jul 24, 2018 17:48
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emdash posted:hamilton is absolutely a cultural phenomenon among rich libs on or offline. people will go to phenomenal lengths to get tickets to it and constantly talk about it like it's a religious experience and everything that Made America Already Great. idk about "performatively overreacting" to it, if anything it's more proportionate than e.g. the reaction to ozyfest which will be completely forgotten in like a month Yeah. It's good theater (though I've more than a few complaints with its spin on elements of his life) but irretrievably snarled up in cultural baddemitude.
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Jul 26, 2018 03:21
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Echo Chamber posted:Yes, I'm vaguely aware of Ron Chernow being somewhat controversial among history folks because he and Doris Kearns Goodwin pretty much write history to specifically pander to narrow clique of elites in media, etc. I just finished his biography of Hamilton and yeah it's not bad history but he sure pushed an idea about Hamilton that is easily reinterpreted West Wingishly.
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Jul 26, 2018 03:44
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SKULL.GIF posted:beto is bad but also significantly better than ted cruz "Significantly better than ted cruz" is a vanishingly low bar to clear. I can think of several malevolent cancers that qualify.
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Jul 26, 2018 05:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:uh no I definitely got banned and had to rereg after my toxx This. The initial ban-forgiveness offered by a D&D mod was overridden in fairly short order once the admins got wind of it.
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Lambert posted:He's not a Democrat. hth ...thank god.
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Aug 9, 2018 21:14
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Shear Modulus posted:the "obama had no scandals" crowd always forget about fast and furious It was hard to take that seriously when the Republicans turned the whole thing into "the black guy gave guns to the murdermexicans!!!!" and as usual cranked the air raid siren up to 11 about it.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:this is my fart song
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loquacius posted:Chelsea's Mom is bad enough that it would have been better a cappella Or a mime act.
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Aug 10, 2018 19:20
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SKULL.GIF posted:"There is very very little difference between Perez and Ellison as DNC chair and frankly you're being hysterical and way overreacting. Relax, whoever wins, you'll barely notice a difference." "Also it really doesn't matter who chairs the DNC when you think about it, so why get so upset that Perez got parachuted in?"
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Taintrunner posted:these people stand for nothing How dare you?! *points intensely at map of unconsolidated data centers*
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Taintrunner posted:I just can't get over the loving stupidity you'd have to have to look at the oval office, congress, and supreme court running a roller coaster on destroying every environmental regulation possible, as global warming is just beginning to make parts of the world literally uninhabitable, and think, yeah, we gotta get more beholden to billion dollar dinosaur bone burners Well since these people were part of the problem they need to be part of the solution and some of the boldest innovations come from the energy sector so we'd fools to alienate them, plus the money would otherwise all go to the Republicans and furthermore *farts smugly*
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Percelus posted:does peterson even have ideas outside of garbage idpol discourse Not really, no.
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:I mean, Hermanson evens admits that isn't true in his op-ed: "Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi is a leading proponent of only incremental change to our broken healthcare system..." I guess the question then becomes "to what end," or "incremental change towards what?" If you're against Pelosi in general, I suppose it would be easy to say the end is some corporatist, third-way outcome. But that sort of ignores the fact that she helped to found the Progressive Caucus, and got ACA passed. Did it have the government option? No, of course it didn't. She's politically savvy enough to know that that wasn't the time or place to put all of the chips in. I would say that the ACA has pushed us further towards the M4A conversation being politically viable. And it was a huge achievement in of itself. But I don't think that op-ed offers "proof" that Pelosi is properly opposed, it just talks about the ways that she did other things instead (which, again, have gotten us closer to M4A). If you want overhaul and not reform, sure, fine, but I think that sort of ignores the political climate we're in, and the fact that Pelosi has a proven track record of getting poo poo done in that climate. No seriously, source your quotes.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/OjPats4/status/1029993536463294464 Worse, she stayed in citing RFK's assassination as a possibility and it's pretty likely didn't start poo poo at the convention only because she'd been promised the State Department.
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WampaLord posted:Didn't Hillaryis44.com turn into a pro-Trump site? Did it ever.
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