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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Here's one coming off the request line from Liberty Island. That is cool! I like there was a fan project to reconstruct that unused theme tune: https://youtu.be/oDyIdG2ETY8
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Karloff posted:These are incredible. It's weird how the line "we have the tools, we have the talent" is a call-back to a line that was deleted, even weirder that Ghostbusters II also contains a call back to this deleted scene, the "the ONLY Ghostbusters". I find that Magic song sinister as hell, but yeah, the longer cut makes the stakes feel a lot higher.
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I won a free movie rental through my phone contract and used it on Afterlife. It was both exactly what I feared it'd be but also a lot better. Please bear in mind I'm not big on packaged nostalgia and I find the Amblin adventure tone really cloying. I will bracing for a bad time with all the near pornographic shots of PKE meters and ghost traps - I think fetishising the gear is kind of detrimental to most sci-fi/fantasy, and it plays a bit the soy face, Funko Pop crowd. The first hour or so felt a bit precious and reverent, the last thing I want from a Ghostbusters sequel. The music cues were like being jammed in the ribs by an elbow. I wasn't keen on how (quite literally) toyetic Ecto-1 had become with its gunner seat and trap door. The performances by the younger kids in particular were charming, though and Podcast was a fun character. The final half really stepped things up though, the gags became more natural and funnier and it gained the confidence to focus on its own character arcs even amongst the reappearances of iconography from the first film - Gozer was pretty threatening here! I could have done with some more chaos in the town to sell the stakes, but I just enjoy a ghost zoo. The original trio showing up was a bit of a deus ex machina, but seeing them was a treat! I wasn't particularly moved by the Egon ghost or anything - he seemed uncharacteristically tender and emotive, but as far as franchise actor necromancy goes, it was pretty tasteful. So, I liked it, but I probably won't want to watch it every couple of years like I do Ghostbusters or even Ghostbusters 2. I remember laughing more at Answer the Call, but this was probably better than that. It's an enjoyable romp.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:the what now?? The kind of people who buy £70 toys and base their identity around the conspicuous consumption of things they remember from their childhood. I'm not trying to make some kind of insulting take here, I liked the movie in the balance, but there's a disconnect between fans of Ghostbusters who liked its shaggy-dog, slob comedy energy who are poorly served by this film and people who like the proton packs and lore and seeing their old toys come to life who are better served by it.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Winston is definitely not Schlubby!! He makes $11500 a year!
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Icon-Cat posted:Part of me wonders if the reason GB gives me such warm fuzzies is precisely because it thumbs its nose at the warm-fuzzies game so many other movies play. Yeah! My relationship with the movies as a kid was coming from loving The Real Ghostbusters (I wanted hair like Peter. At almost 39, my hair threatens to become like movie Peter), seeing Ghostbusters 2 in the cinema (and being petrified of Vigo) and seeing the original on TV. And it didn't really register as a comedy. These guys were my heroes because they could defeat the worst thing - ghosts. There's jokes, but they're largely quite subtle for a little kid and based in character rather than incident. The movie grew up with me on rewatches, like being taken aback with the Regan era Libertarian slant when watching it in my 20s (I still love it even if framing the EPA is a villian is...weird!) or just finding "listen, do you smell that?" funnier every single time. Now I'm likely a little older than the characters, it's funny seeing these burnouts from academia go into an absurdist blue collar job. Afterlife is so stuck on your memory of Ghostbusters at 6 that it doesn't acknowledge what makes it great at 16 or 26 or 36, and perhaps worse, doesn't forge an identity of its own which, for all its faults, even Answer The Call did. Also, the post-credits scene must be some bolted on bullshit since it straight-up contradicts a line from the film! Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:If anyone would have done that it should've been Louis. Afterlife seemed to want to memoryhole GB2 anyway, apart from Ray's store, so he presumably would have shown up in Janine's part from the beginning since he was an accountant.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Surprised Afterlife was considered a success when it made less than the original did in straight up dollars and made less than a 1/3 when adjusting for inflation. I think we need to factor in the pandemic release, but also factor in that it was a bland and forgettable film.
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I'm okay with a new Ghostbusters film, but its a 3 1/2hr docudrama about the ghost that sucks your dick when you sleep in a museum.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah it has been said and said again. I don't think Ghostbusters ever really hid that though and it feels like a weird conflation of the cartoon, not understanding nuance aged 6 (whenever you saw Ghostbusters) or not having an understanding of the films context or Murray's comic persona to assume that that's not part of the joke if the great Ghostbusters film (the first one). Bill Murray plays assholes who charm their way out of it- that's his thing! Did Scrooged and Groundhog Day make too much of an impact on me as a kid or something? When I first saw Ghostbusters, I think i was so young I confused Bill Murray and Phil Collins all the time. I can't think of a film where Bill Murray hasn't just played Bill Murray at that stage of his life. Garfield maybe?
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The Ghostbusters animated series should be them struggling not to get priced out of Manhatten, dealing with tax policy, complaining about encroaching middle age and Jeanine installing Windows 3.1. Sometimes there would be a ghost.
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The OG Ghostbusters is really gold for little kids who tend to a) love the emergency services and b) loving hate ghosts. I don't think there was any cynicism about that back in '84, but it sure worked out when it came to building a brand.
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Quote-Unquote posted:I saw Ghostbusters 2 in the cinema on release when I was 5, and I had already seen the first one one taped off TV, and loved the cartoon. I saw it on release in the cinema too and was so afraid of Vigo at the end that I had to "watch" him by turning around and looking at the tiny image in the projector. I don't think I saw the first film until a little later, but I was crazy about the cartoon. I don't remember being bothered by anything else and I was a, uh, "sensitive" child, but its possible it got cuts in the UK for a PG rating. I remember afterwards my Dad and I went to Wimpy for a Ghostbusters meal that included pink slime (milkshake) and a ghost in a can, which I didn't touch for years in the belief a fully formed spirit would emerge. Wish I kept it - combined Wimpy/Ghostbusters merch would be quite collectable I assume!
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Yes, that scene specifically is probably the most terrifying, but GB2 has the severed heads, Janosz with light up eyes in the hallway, WIIIIINSTOOOOOONE, Vigo himself, and the Scoleri brothers (Nunzi especially The library ghost and the cab driver bothered me in GB1, but probably because they were cut from the first TV showing I saw, so their sudden appearance next time had a "no rules today, kiddo!" vibe.
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Groovelord Neato posted:I don't even mean this as an insult because I find it charming but that goes without saying when it comes to you. I agree, and I think any point after the mid-nineties was probably too late (and Evolution is probably what we would have got). I respect 2016 for trying to do its own thing and having its own sensibility, even if it does have an Ozzy cameo in 2016. Like, there's a little nostalgia baiting in there, but I don't feel it's ever distracting. That films problems are its own, and would remain there if it was its own stand-alone film. Afterlife is more insulting because, in its syrupy, gee-whiz, reverant way it manages to feel nothing like a Ghostbusters movie, despite playing with almost the entire (literal) toybox. It's like a cargo cult version of likeability, down to casting Paul Rudd. Any arguments that its for kids, or that it appeals to kids, are absolutely bunk considering the first movie was beloved by kids despite being about dysfunctional, schlubby middle-aged academics with two-mortgages. Afterlife isn't an awful sequel to The Real Ghostbusters, but it sucks as a sequel to Ghostbusters. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jan 31, 2023 |
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Ray had three mortgages, big guy Now THATS scary!
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Kumail Nanjiani and Patton Oswalt set to co-star in upcoming Ghostbusters sequel. Yeah, this casting suggests they're doubling down on the stuff I didn't like about Afterlife. I like those actors okay in some stuff they've done, but this seems self-conciously nerdy in a way I don't care for.
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roffels posted:They should go back to Sedgewick and the cigar elevator guy should be a ghost they need to bust. Why would he be a ghost? Did he have a heart-attack off screen or something? Anyway, the way he asks if the ghostbusters are cosmonauts (not astronauts!) is the kind of funny only the original film can be.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah he died in 2015 In the hotel lift?!
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Oh man I'm just not feeling that trailer. I guess a lot of that is because the first minute is just the scene with the storm cloud rolling in on the beach and everything about the Ghostbusters is crammed into the rest of the trailer, and most of that is just characters reacting to something off screen. I've made my thoughts on how much I despised Afterlife and the Funkopopification of the (ugh) franchise, but I felt the trailer course-corrected a bit - maybe it's the 80s music or the bustling, grimy NY setting, but it felt to "get" Ghostbusters a bit more. But... Rupert Buttermilk posted:Kumail Nanjiani just confirmed on twitter that the writers/director were essentially aiming to create a feature-length, live action movie that felt like an episode of The Real Ghostbusters. Yeah, I liked that show as a kid, but like the original foe different reasons as an adult, and arguing that that's not really Ghostbusters is like arguing about how Fall Out Boy isn't real emo compared to Rites of Spring or whatever at this point. It's not wrong, but most people will think you're a dickhead. Ah well.
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deoju posted:In Ghostbusters: Afterlife Paul Rudd reads an Avengers comic. He plays an Avenger in the Marvel movies. The Stay Puft thing remaining a brand is still one of the weirdest parts of GB lore to me in Afterlife. Even if I accept that the events of the first two films somehow got memoryholed, surely a brand in the 80s would be cagey about their mascot after it was embodied by an elder god and tore a streak of destruction across New York? It's like if there was a marshmallow brand called "Nine-Elevens" and they just kept it that. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jan 7, 2024 |
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What the gently caress is the Titanic? You see, I, like a normal person, don't remember seismic historical events like maritime catastrophes or sustained supernatural disturbances (twice). People still talk about the Enfield poltergeist or tye Amityville House, so I think they'd still talk about the time New York almost fell into Hell.
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gregday posted:Because it’s a comedy. Nah, that's weak. Come on. If anything, it's because Ghostbusters is a weird, stitched together, mess that works in spite of itself and runs 80% on charisma. It's pacing and tone are all over the place. Infact, I think that's maybe Afterlife's problem as much as anything - Paul Rudd is charismatic, but he's like 25% of a Murray, maybe 40% of an Ackaroyd.
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I'm not going to read too much into it and I'm cautiously hyped, but I'd be fine without the toyetic mini-stay pufts/baby groots/baby yodas/minions whatever FunkoPop nonsense you want to call them. I have never been amused by the presence of a silly little guy, outside of Gremlins 1 & 2.
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I'm so torn on this trailer - everything involving the ice demon looks really cool, I'm hyped to see New York again (even if modern New York doesn't have the romance of grungy New York), but every lazy callback makes me fizz with rage. I'm going to see this, aren't I?
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Basebf555 posted:Call backs can be done well and they can be enjoyable, I think it's a mistake to put them in a trailer though. It comes off as desperate, sends a bad message that the movie you made is dependent on them. Sell fans on the new story, then let them be surprised by the call backs when they actually watch the movie. Yeah, that's it exactly. Even when watching RGB as a kid, it was like "what hosed up poo poo are they going to encounter this week" or the toy line was like "a football player that turns into some kind of John Carpenter alligator?! Okay". Even Ghostbusters 2 was like "gently caress it. Phantom jogger and here's a living coat", so when the monster zoo is reduced to 'memberberries it a real loss. But maybe Ray will get that blow job for real this time.
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When I saw GB2 as a kid, I was so scared of the big Vigo head at the end, I had to turn around and look at the tiny film in the projector in the cinema. Then my dad took me for a GB2 Wimpy meal with a "Ghost in a can" and pink slime milkshake.
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Basebf555 posted:They hit a home run by casting that really scary looking guy as Vigo(he also appears in Die Hard and In the Mouth of Madness). Because of course the situation is goofy as hell and no adults watching are really going to be scared by it, but then you cast that guy and it's a super simple way to make sure that any kids watching are gonna have nightmares. And then Von Sydow's voice is just the icing on the cake. That guy's life story is absolutely wild and kind of tragic too.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:This is no worse than any of the Kenner toys made from the CARTOON SERIES based directly on the films. Those were in a cartoon for children.
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Splint Chesthair posted:It’s been very weird to see Sony try to hammer Ghostbusters into this very earnest, schmaltzy kind of thing. The Funko dad and their vaguely interested kid (who is decked out in full costume) is a fixture of any nerd adjacent nostalgia property that you can see at any convention or but its especially egregious with Ghostbusters because it had such a vein of cynicism running through it. Even Ghostbusters II runs on the idea New Yorkers loving hate each others guts. And honestly, it made the cosmic horror elements feel super gloomy. You think New York is a scary and uncaring place, wait until you see Sumeria. The cartoon was good in its own right, but didn't have quite the same mean streak. I will LMAO if the spoilered plot elements are true.
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Bacon Terrorist posted:IGN just reviewed Frozen Empire 4/10. Most reviews are sitting around that spot that I've seen. That said, I've booked 4DX tickets for me and my dad who took me to see Ghostbusters 2 back in the day and will try and put myself in the mind of the 6 year old who loved RGB, and not the 41 year old who has loved the 1984 film for different, but equally valid, reasons his entire life.
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It's funny, I don't think of Ghostbusters as something I'm nostalgic about - The Real Ghostbusters? Sure, I had an Ecto-1 I got at a car boot sale on a bookshelf for a while (I gave it to a friends kids who fell in love with it), but I always felt Ghostbusters, the 1984 film, grew with me, from spooky horror adventure, to comedians at their height, to libertarian fantasy and settling on charmingly shaggy and grungy comedy with elements of all of those things on my last viewing (I maintain that it's a very messy film and paced weird as hell, but it leaks charm and everyone is on top-form). I think I've found a new line or reaction to find hilarious on each rewatch. Jokes about mortgages and blowjobs didn't land when I was 8. One thing I respected about 2016 was that it wasn't afraid to be it's own thing using the rough template of the original. I think it failed (I enjoyed it in the cinema but found it very rough upon a rewatch), but you could see that the creative impetus was drawing on the comedy more than the "stuff".
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Ragnar Gunvald posted:Actually double post, but I was watching a clip from the late show with Seth Myers the other day (we don't get those shows in the UK) and I found out loving James Acaster is in this and that really bummed me out. He's a poo poo comedian and do not get why he would have a role in this. Perhaps better IMO if it went to John Oliver or someone more deserving. I'm kind of insufferable with my taste in comedians - I enjoy stand-up, but if you're on panel shows and stuff, you're probably not a stand-up I'd enjoy, so I don't really know who James Acaster is. I'm with you on Rudd, whose whole persona seems to be that he's kind of charming, but outside of thinking he's great in Wet Hot American Summer and getting a lot of laughs from me in the "Celery Man" sketch, I can't say I care for him. I understand Murray has checked out and I've cooled on him since some on set behaviour from him in recent years became public. So that leaves Ackyrod and maybe Kumail Nanjiani that I'm interested in seeing in this, and the later is mainly based on The Big Sick and his X-Files podcast. Patton Oswalt I used to like more and I liked in Young Adult, but I find anyone who does the "professional nerd" thing really off-putting. If the Stranger Things kid is smart enough to know he has a relatively small window to make bank as "the eighties kid" before retiring, good for him. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Mar 22, 2024 |
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CelticPredator posted:He’s trying to be a director now which is cool. Finn Wolfhart? (I genuinely forgot his name in the previous post). Good for him, he certainly seemed to become a bit typecast.
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The_Doctor posted:I prefer ‘real’ Acaster to his standup persona. He’s great on his Off Menu podcast and Taskmaster. Oh! I enjoyed the Garth Marenghi episode of that, but that was probably more to do with the guest.
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Ragnar Gunvald posted:I'm just waiting for the film to start with baited breath... It'll be my first 4DX film, so if it pisses me off, I can get even more pissed off by my chair rocking and getting mist and cold air blown at me and die of apoplectic rage while Patton Oswald says "They can FLY now?!" as the Lord intended.
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