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Veloxyll posted:If Maverick and the guy from Tie Fighter went out on a mission, how many kills could they get? I'm just imagining the trial scene from Wing Commander 4. Dialogue choices - "He's the Emperor's stool pigeon!" or "He had us clear a minefield... in an unshielded craft!"
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wedgekree posted:Maarek Stele? Does Maverick have to deal with having Maniac flying on his wing or not? He'd find a way to come out of it alive. And get kills via nonsense like shooting a heatseeker dumb past them I did mean Blair rather than Cruise though.
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A wing made up of Blair, Maniac, Cruise, and Starbuck.
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You can have Maniac. No one else wants him. I'll take the TIE Defender with afterburners.
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As long as I get to fly a Devastator from Prophecy. Why yes I'll take a gun powerful enough to hurt capital ships in a game where the enemy AI loves to make head-to-head passes.
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We both end up dying to the Missile Boat in all likelihood.
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wedgekree posted:We both end up dying to the Missile Boat in all likelihood. I'm not sure there's a fighter in existence that can defeat King Hell God Emperor Starfighter of Death. (For those of you not in the know that title was actually put in the data files for X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter. And that is why people are nostalgic for the old days.) (Also I think one of the staff members must have been a Mazinger fan or something because that title is anime as gently caress in the best way possible)
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Dr. Snark posted:I'm not sure there's a fighter in existence that can defeat King Hell God Emperor Starfighter of Death. Most super fighters in games can solo legions of fighters and a capital ship or two iwht a good flier. The Missile Boat can solo legions of fighters and legions of capital ships with a good flier. It has enough missiles to make it cost effective to shoot down missiles with missiles. In fact, there is a mission oriented around doing that. It is just as gloriously explosive as it sounds. (Also $##! that mission)
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Dr. Snark posted:I'm not sure there's a fighter in existence that can defeat King Hell God Emperor Starfighter of Death. I dunno, the premise of the Devastator is that if its plasma cannon hits a fighter, that fighter dies instantly no questions asked. And the enemy AI in Prophecy is really fond of flying straight at you, perfect fodder for the plasma cannon.  That thing's main purpose is to let you hurt capital ships without needing torpedoes, though, which can be incredibly useful in that game. Especially when you're hunting Tritons with that goddamn rear turret of theirs.
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Cythereal posted:I dunno, the premise of the Devastator is that if its plasma cannon hits a fighter, that fighter dies instantly no questions asked. And the enemy AI in Prophecy is really fond of flying straight at you, perfect fodder for the plasma cannon. If it had multiple cannons going at you at alternate times, sometimes the wrong one firing, would it have tourettes for the turrets?
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I planned to update yesterday but got offered a wonderful dinner so did not have time to finish. Will get update finished tonight.
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wedgekree posted:Raiding and skirmishing aside, I'm somewhat worried of the scale of the Kilrathi presence encountered so far. We've been doing active flight ops for -less- than twenty four hours and we've already seen one capital ship, at least four escorts of various sizes, raiders, and one fighter patrol base. The destroyer was part of the cruiser’s escort with how quickly they came through the jump point together. The Kilrathi cruiser captain screwed up having the transports come through so early but he probably figured this was safe considering this should be a safe system. Right now you have the cruiser and probably at least one other fighter carrying capship in system assuming the intel on the Gratha group is correct and it was not ground based. I rolled up whether something was coming through the jump point as intel suggested (odds were high it would) and whether it would come through while the Raptors were there and rolled for composition. But yeah, the situation is pretty dangerous though not overwhelmingly so. SolarFire2 posted:Wing Commander was the first sci-fi sim I ever played and I remember it with nothing but unabashed fondness. I still have the original Strategy Guide, and somewhere at my parent's house there's the 6-CD set of The Kilrathi Saga. Bummed I discovered this thread so late! I got Privateer 2 as a kid but could never get it to not crash on my PC. I bought it again not too long and found it surprisingly enjoyable. While it makes little economic sense I loved that every ship and piece of equipment for your ship sells for as much as it costs. It keeps you from doing the “save up every dollar for the ultimate ship and gear” syndrome and lets you experiment more. If you outfit a ship and it does not work you do not have to go to the last save you just switch it out next time you land. Covski posted:Speaking of, if one were to play a WC game today with no previous experience with the series, which would be the one to pick up? I prefer 1 over 2. Just do not get hung up on the Secret Missions add ons if you get stuck. They are hard. 2 also have the Special Operations 1 missions many of which are badly designed bullshit. I am toying with doing a Let’s Play of the games during the week between updates but not sure yet. I just played 1 through 4 and both Privateers. Veloxyll posted:If Maverick and the guy from Tie Fighter went out on a mission, how many kills could they get? I love the X-Wing flightsims and Tie Fighter is probably my favorite but the tech creep in that game is ridiculous. Advanced concussion missiles, Heavy Space bombs, heavy rockets, the TIE Defender, and the Missile Boat all break the balance of power in the game. I still think I have the most fun in that game flying the TIE fighter and interceptor where you just cannot afford to take any hits. Z the IVth posted:Is this corvette a Kamekh? I am playing a little fast and loose with capship armaments. The armament in the games does not really work that well applied to an actual fight. In the early games they were just targets and escort objectives. In Wing Commander 1 friendly capital ships never actually fire their guns. When a ship reports they shot down an enemy fighter what they mean is the enemy fighter rammed them and died. In 2 I don’t think friendly ships fire anti-fighter guns but I am not sure. They do fire their big guns at enemy capships. In 3 and 4 the ships all shoot when they should (mostly). EponymousMrYar posted:That's kind of what Corvette's are in a nutshell in the Wing Commander universe. They're big beefy fighters that can jump, refuel on the fly and carry tons of ordinance without having to rearm. Perfect for convoy escorts or long-range raiding. Pretty much. They are faster then other capships. They can also function as capship murderers once torpedoes show up (right now they can be loaded with dumb fires for a less effective capship killing attack), can be sent around as decoys firing off comms traffic to confuse the enemy, and make good Search and Rescue craft to rescue pilots if the area is hot and a shuttle would be a bad idea. Again, this is my head canon which is how I am running it. In the games capships were just targets or things to escort so I am mostly making it up. Aces High posted:I know your roster is full, but I am ok with being a reserve pilot who may not see action until a few ops are behind us. This is a war, after all. I think we have one more shuttle slot unless I missed one. Can check when I get home. koolkevz666 posted:Hey was wondering Xenocides if I could name one of the escort ships protecting the Phoenix and name her captain and give said captain a little bio information. I love Wing Commander but have always been drawn towards the cap ships rather than the fighters. If this isn't possible then if one is free I would be happy to pick up a shuttle pilot slot just let me know what I would need to draw up. Thanks. I named the two destroyers the Gilgamesh and the Enkidu (two first Gilgamesh destroyers). There is a frigate and a corvette in the group too which I have not statted yet or named. Name the captain of any of those if you want and you can name the ship if you pick one of the smaller ones.
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I'm just waiting for someone to die. Hopefully the carrier doesn't get blown up too!
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From: Rick "Renegade" Void To: Group- "Flight-Techs" RE: THIS WEIRD PART Attachments: wtfisthisshit.jpg So, hypothetically speaking, I may have stolen a maintenence jumpsuit and cap, and hung around the flight deck for a bit "incognito" so that I could get a look at the insides of our fighters and see if there was any chance I could pitch in and help build a few (so that I can GET OUT THERE). LOL. Anyway, while poking around I removed this part (see attachment) and when I went to put it back I realized that A) I don't remember how it goes back in and B) It appears to fit in a number of different ways? that doesn't seem right somehow. Like, I figured this poo poo would be easy for me, but not this easy? Any ideas? Again, this us all hypothetical, of course. Cough, cough. XD Rick Void Renegade Saviour Of Humanity, One Dead Kitty At A Time
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From: Patience "Clockwork" White To: Rick "Renegade" Void RE: Re: THIS WEIRD PART You appear to have removed a secondary fuel flow regulator from a first-generation Rapier (there were some revisions in the fueling systems after the first production run, leading to incompatibilities between the parts between the earliest Rapiers and the current production models). Failure to replace the part will result in an inability for the fueling system to control delivery of fuel to the drives, most likely resulting in catastrophic failure of the fighter. Replacement procedure is as follows: (Two and a half pages of painfully-detailed explanations of mechanical procedures omitted.) If you have followed the procedure as described, there should be no further difficulties with the Rapier. - Patience White
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From: Rick "Renegade" Void To: Patience "Clockwork" White RE: RE: RE: THIS WEIRD PART Wow, thanks for the quick reply. Did you even have to look that up? Very impressive. Okay, so if I followed your instructions correctly (lol, of course I did, those instructions were great. Thanks for your patience, Patience, lol) I'm like, 90% sure I've got this thing in right. Are you on duty right now? It... Might be a good idea to get a second set of eyes on this. I mean, 10% chance to die horribly isn't bad but, uh, maybe we can do better. Hypothetically. Anyway, I'm definently NOT the guy half hidden behind the third rapier in section G of you want to come take a look. Maybe after shift's over we can grab a drink and you can tell me all about how you put one of these bad-boys together!? Could be fun... Rick
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Patience will be entirely happy to discourse- at length!- on the engineering behind Confed fighters. She also proves to not drink, and instead nurses a glass of cranberry juice while she does so. She actually has to ask Rick if he knows where Rick is, because Rick claimed he was definitely not the one hiding. And she took that literally.
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For his part, Renegade doesn't notice that Clockwork is completely oblivious to his jokes and awful attempts to make a pass at her. By the end of the evening he's got a stack of bar napkins filled with notes and half completed starfighter part diagrams, drawn primarily by himself but ocassionally corrected by Clockwork. A combination of his mostly empty brain and his alcohol fueled state has resulted in him having absorbed basically everything she said by osmosis- he couldn't call the info up manually, but you mentioned a problem with your flux dampner coil? By god he actually knows somethig about that, where the hell did that come from. He also beleives he and Patience are friends now, whether this is true or not.
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Operation Kitty Litter T'rel Meh System 2657.140 About 1800 Hours ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Day 1 Quarter 4 Repair Crews Work on Scimitar, two Rapiers, and Raptor continue. The damaged Rapier and the newly assembled one are over halfway to ready condition (15/25). The Scimitar (11/30) and Raptor (13/40) have a way to go. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Shuttle Escort Flight Added Space clears the Kilrathi Corvette to proceed. The Kilrathi captain looks hesitant and then transfers a data file to Added Space's fighter. The Corvette continues on. 1800 Hours CAP 4 launches and CAP 3 lands. 1810 Hours Raptor group makes its rendezvous with the Shuttle group. The Raptors refuel and the group continues towards the Phoenix. 2356 Hours CAP 4 lands and Alpha-3, Beta-3, Shuttle Escort, and the Raptors arrive at home. I expected to roll up at least one fight but you lucked out or missed out depending on how you want to look at it. It is a good bet Day 2 will be hotter now that the cats have a good idea something is out there. End of Day ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Forgot to award Patience "Clockwork" White an achievement. Achievement Unlocked: Triumph over Mediocrity - First to kill a Krant: 5 xp Added up xp and allocated. Achievement Unlocked: First to 100 xp Special Ability Unlock - Sheila "Dingo" Smith 5 xp No one raised a stat (there are people one point away though) but we did have someone break 100 xp and earn a special ability. For those who already have one you started with 100+ xp. This turn took a while as this took longer then planned. Working on a way to streamline the process. In any case here is the roster at the moment:   Anyone who has a Pending special ability can select one. I either never got it from you or possibly missed it. If the latter, sorry, please remind me. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ In the Commodore's Ready Room the Commodore, his XO, and the CAG meet to plan their next move. All four of the escort ship captains are tied in via vidlink. XO Stefan Chen: Intel has completed a preliminary analysis of the wreckage we recovered from the Gratha. We believe it to be a jump point analyzer. Confed is aware of the theory that you can scan a jump point and get an estimate based on the residue of what has been through the jump point lately. We have not been able to scale them down for anything smaller then a frigate and the size made it impractical to deploy into a combat zone. It seems the Kilrathi have solved that problem and have developed a device that can fit into a heavy fighter." CAG Major Riley: Can we use this device? XO: No, it is damaged and probably not compatible. I do think we should get this device to Confed R&D. With it they might be able to get us an equivalent device for our own use. We can guess this was being used to scan the jump point periodically to find out if anything has come through. We would have picked up the transmission if they had sent it to their home base so we can guess they did not get home with the scan data. It might be worth loading this into a shuttle and sending it with an escort back to the Silenos jump point and have it head back to Torgo. That way if we don't make it..... CAG: I don't like weakening the wing even by a single shuttle. XO: Your pilots letting that Kilrathi corvette go through could also complicate things. If it was on a raiding mission.... CAG: If we shoot down defecting cats they will stop defecting. XO: Assuming they were defecting. We examined the data squirt the Corvette sent to your pilots. It has data on Kilrathi shipments through Vigrid we can use when we get there. Some of the data is hard to read and was encrypted. If they are on the level it looks like the defectors just stole all the data they could including data they were not authorized to decrypt and sent it all to us. I will get Tactical on it and hopefully we can use it Commodore John Ackermann: While this could benefit the war effort it is a long-term benefit. At the moment we need to focus on getting through this system and into Vigrid so we can begin our primary mission. XO: Preliminary camera footage of the destroyed transports gives a good probability those supplies were designed for space military ordinance. Fighters and missiles. It could have been a resupply for the Kilrathi moon base or intended for the front lines. We hope to find out for sure but Tactical is doubtful we can make a much more certain determination. Comm: We are three days from the jump point to Vigrid. As it stands we can assume we have at least three fighter-carrying targets in system. We have the Fralthi the Raptors encountered, whatever launched that Gratha wing, and the Kilrathi base on the moon. If that Fralthi were to head straight for the jump point to Vigrid it would beat us there. XO: I suggest we attack that Fralthi. The tracking we have on its course as the Raptors left shows it is heading either for Vigrid or the moon base. Unless it deviates it should be easy to intercept. The Raptors won't be ready to fight for a while. But fully loaded Rapiers with Scimitar backup should be able to handle it. CAG: That means another long trip in and out. We would have to use the fuel shuttles again. XO: I think it is worth it to try to knock that ship out of action. CO of Gilgamesh: Dicey. That Fralthi is a tough customer. I would recommend sending my ship and the Enkidu out there with a squadron as escort, either the Scimitars or the Rapiers. If the fighters can keep the fighters off of us and knock out the Fralthi's antimatter guns we can pound that ship with our own heavy guns. Comm: Risky, it leaves the fleet less well protected. If you do that we cannot spare more then one squadron for the attack with the fleet that exposed. XO: The risk should be acceptable. They likely do not have more then a vague idea where we are. Comm: Another option would be to look at that moon base. Within 24 hours we will be in range for a strike. Our Hornets have enough range to fly out, take some pictures, and see what they have defending the base. It is even possible that the space-based fighters we saw came from some kind of orbital base in that area. With that recon data we can decide whether it would be practical to hit the base. CAG: Whatever we do not commit to these efforts will go out on patrols. The Raptor pilots are exhausted after that extended mission. I would like to leave them in reserve if possible. XO: May not be a reasonable option.  Voting You can vote on each option: 1. Jump Point Analyzer A. Send a shuttle back to the Silenos jump point with an escort to try to get the device back to Torgo. B. Hold on to it for now. 2. Fralthi Action A. Send the two destroyers and the Rapier squadron to hit the Fralthi group. B. Send the two destroyers and the Scimitar squadron to hit the Fralthi group. C. Leave the destroyers with the carrier and send the Rapiers and the Scimitars to hit the Fralthi group. D. Wait for a better opportunity. 3. Kilrathi Moon Base A. Send 3 Hornets to recon the base. B. Send 6 Hornets to recon the base. C. Hold off for now.
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1. A 2. B 3. A Also, what are the meanings of the columns after 'Damage' on that sheet? nweismuller fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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 Unless MIS is for missiles, not missions?  Regarding the vote... 1) A. A COD plane is not going to weaken the wings that much. 2) A. We've hit a bunch of them, now it's the next squadron's turn. 3) B. The more the merrier.
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1:A, 2:A Torn on 3, 6 seems too many, 3 not enough. Let the Hornets decide?
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1: A 2: A 3: A I think getting the intel to Confed ASAP is important. It's worth being without a shuttle for a day or two to go back and take it. Long term this is something that could help the war effort - or at least let command know it's something the enemy has so start adjusting plans accordingly. Presuming we don't think the shuttle can be slammed hard and needs a heavier escort we should be good. I think the Rapiers are a better fit for a long range raid with the Destroyers - they can hit a bit better with more missiles and can handle most fighters. The idea is punch a hole, work the Fralthi over, and get out . The Rapiers just want to keep the Destroyers alive, mostly. They can hadle the Fralthi. Three hornets is probably a good size to recon the moon. Two for escort, one for taking recon pics. Send in six it looks like a raid and they scramble. Three means they just send out closest patrol flight to engage which can be avoided. Hornets: Will defer to the Hornet squadron, but a knife flight to me makes it likelier that the base doesn't scramble after them and just diverts whomever they have on CAP, which can be avoided or delayed in a dogfight. wedgekree fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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1: B, Too many other things for us to do at the moment. 2: A, Rapier's could use some action since the Scim's got shuttle duty this time. Also they're more heavily armed and maneuverable than the Scim's, which makes them a bit better for this sort of work. 3: B, it's basically a choice between: A: stealth and not getting hit by the moonbase's anti-fighter weaponry and... B: safety in numbers and being able to outnumber anything that can actually keep up with the hornets. My gut's saying the latter is probably going to be more of an issue than the former.
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1) A, a single shuttle isn't exactly going to throw the battle in the Cats' favor. Besides, sooner we get that to R&D, sooner we can get to scanning every Jump Point for their litterboxes. 2) A, might be biased, but I WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION!! 3) B, I have a bad feeling about sending in just three flyboys.
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1) A, Intel is high priority, especially considering how spicy it is. 2) A, the Rapiers'd probably do just fine for cover, and a dead Fralthi saves work down the line 3) A. Biased, because avoidance or stealth is good, but easier target designations are also good.
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1. A- Intel is good, shuttles aren't 2. Delay a strike. It's too far to risk a strike for now 3. B- Do some recon and with 6 fighters we may be able to pick off an undefended target there/on the way
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Davin Valkri posted:
Oops, forgot to increment mission total. Will fix when I get a chance.
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Her Raptor went down the flight deck. She was exhausted. Blowout went to reel herself out of the cockpit as it opened and went to slide her way down. Twenty four hours on jumpstick was still exhausting, even if a lot of it was just the autopilot matching speeds and transponder. As she went down her fighter, she inspected it. No major damage - just dings and scratches. Looking at the complex minelayer arrangmeent that was going to be stripped out and replaced with a standard missile rack, she grumbled. Exhaustion warred over with looking at her gun cam footage. Blowout was -not- happy. At least, not with herself. No kills. No major damage. No great shots. The former ballet girl had survived her first combat mission. And done utterly -nothing- on it. Deciding that now was not the time to wiat for however long it took for the gun cam footage to be downloaded, processed, and analysed and spat out for an AAR for her group and the rest of the squadron, Dana decided on rack time. Meandering her way up towards the mess hall, she heard rumors. Someone let a Cat-Vette go? Yeah, really. Hearing sounds of exhausted techs, pilots milling about, and the back and forth of the crew slowly reassured her. So, Dana went to slide towards a seat to get at least /something/ hat passed for alcohol. It was a long first day.
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nweismuller posted:1. A Missile load out. Decoys, Dumbfires, Heatseekers, Image-rec, Friend or Foe, and Mines. Between missions it does not mean anything. I usually outfit them with a full load out when they launch. I need a spot to track it so if they go into combat and then get put back I need to know their load out in case they get in another fight.
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Xenocides posted:Missile load out. Decoys, Dumbfires, Heatseekers, Image-rec, Friend or Foe, and Mines. Between missions it does not mean anything. I usually outfit them with a full load out when they launch. I need a spot to track it so if they go into combat and then get put back I need to know their load out in case they get in another fight. Thanks. I actually meant all the columns after- including 'Sh', 'Re', 'Gun', et cetera.
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1. A If we can't reverse engineer it it's just scrap sitting on the flight deck. There's no knowing how long until we reconnect with other Confed forces, the sooner they get this tech the sooner it can be exploited. 2. A I agree with EponymousMrYar; Rapiers are a better fit for this mission. Plus what's the point of having warships if we don't use them? 3. Abstain I'm letting the Hornets make the call on this one.
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Jump Point Analyzer: A Let's get this thing checked out. The more information we have, the easier things will go for us. The Fralthi: B My bias might be showing because, if I was reading the assignments and logs right, CAP-2 had a really uneventful day (to Gray's relief.) The Moon Base: B Three Hornets is too little.
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1B 2A 3B Keep everything shoot everything. What's the worst that could happen? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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how much of an escort does the shuttle need? At any rate I am thinking 1. A getting intel now will be better in the long run 2. A use the craft that will be best suited for the task, and we did a number on that group already so we can catch them with their pants down again 3. B strength in numbers and I still feel that we can maintain stealth even with more fighters dedicated
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Aces High posted:how much of an escort does the shuttle need? At any rate I am thinking I'd guess the shuttle probably has two fighters with it. Probably the Hornets if they have the flight range.
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1A 2A 3B Intel is important as is reverse-engineering cat tech. Either Lana will die or continue her path towards becoming an ace. Either way it's going to be exciting for me! No shame in making sure that the Hornets won't get outnumbered if things go really wrong.
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