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Who should be the Mod?
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Anidav 14 0.14%
Dr Spaceman 2 0.02%
JBP 12 0.12%
bell jar 1 0.01%
GoldStandardConure 7 0.07%
Joseph Stalin 10016 99.64%
Total: 10052 votes
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AgentF
May 11, 2009
Albo has to know that all this desperate NewsCorp leadership bait is a ruse. There is no loving way that he would challenge for the leadership only to spin up a fresh batch of "Labor in Chaos" to distract from how pathetic the government has been going.

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birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

froglet posted:

What's people's thoughts on the drought over east?

salt the earth so nothing can grow there again

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Rotate some white South Africans into the farms to give our brave boys a rest imo.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
-3 months later-

"Who killed all these Indigenous people and buried them in the fields here!?!"

*Heavy Saffer Accent* "Yeah I don't know mate hell of a thing that"

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Prime Minister Matthias Cormann was some genuine galaxy brain poo poo.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
People used to scoff at the idea of Dutton ever being elevated to anything.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

If Tony got to be PM, then why not a potato?

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

People used to scoff at the idea of Dutton ever being elevated to anything.

I'm still not convinced the entire home affairs ministry isnt just Turnbull and allies setting him up to soak up all of the damage when they get slaughtered nationally, and the ALP start finding (literal) bodies, so it doesn't damage the party. They know they sold their soul to keep a lie going, and now most of the poo poo is going to land on Dutton alone.

Although as usual, the libs are shortsighted idiots with a bad plan, because we know Morrison is going down with him if it ever happens.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008


:owned:

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Don Dongington posted:

I'm still not convinced the entire home affairs ministry isnt just Turnbull and allies setting him up to soak up all of the damage when they get slaughtered nationally, and the ALP start finding (literal) bodies, so it doesn't damage the party. They know they sold their soul to keep a lie going, and now most of the poo poo is going to land on Dutton alone.

Although as usual, the libs are shortsighted idiots with a bad plan, because we know Morrison is going down with him if it ever happens.

Dutton's immaterial to their consolidation of an obscene amount of power into one portfolio. That's why labor was into it, they want it too when they can control it

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

People used to scoff at the idea of Dutton ever being elevated to anything.

It's more that everything else is sinking to his level.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/orgelhaus/status/1024604656758972417

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

I'm in Greece and all the Australians are yelling "give me xxxxxxxxx fuckin".

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

How could you find yourself anywhere with George Pell and not spit on him?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Megillah Gorilla posted:

How could you find yourself anywhere with George Pell and not spit on him?

Kew :monocle:

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I've used to work in Kew, and it's exactly the sort of place where people think themselves too cultured to spit on one of this country's greatest monsters.

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax
loving hell I used to live very close to there (yes, trap sprung, etc), had been there a bunch of times, the old priest from our school used to go there from time to time too.

Megillah Gorilla posted:

I've used to work in Kew, and it's exactly the sort of place where people think themselves too cultured to spit on one of this country's greatest monsters.

my mum met him once about twenty (?) years ago at some city church thingy when he was still archbishop, she said he was a massive wanker

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
I passed him in the street once, he's big and imposing and I would be scared to spit on him

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

EoinCannon posted:

I passed him in the street once, he's big and imposing and I would be scared to spit on him

What are you, a child?

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

If not, I don't think he abuses adults :smuggo:

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

bell jar posted:

If not, I don't think he abuses adults :smuggo:

:drat:

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

EoinCannon posted:

I passed him in the street once, he's big and imposing and I would be scared to spit on him

A soft liberal.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Rename the Greens as the Browns.

It's homage to Bob, lets fully embrace the hatred and make it simple for Australians to admit what they really feel.

Imagine the headlines.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Rename the Greens to the Australian

AgentF
May 11, 2009
Rename the Greens to the Common Sense Sensible Centre Straight Forward Solutions Party

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

hmmm I suggested that last month but if kkkommando thinks it’s a good idea I’m fuckin out

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
lol at Triple M giving PETA a voice

lol that there's an Australian arm of PETA

lol I listened to the radio like an idiot

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Andrew Elder's trashing the press gallery again:

quote:

In recent years there has been a trend away from diversity as a priority for media. This wasn't a result of last year's legislative changes; parliament mostly follows rather than leads public debate (and this pretty much discredits the "theatre critic" model of political coverage, but I digress).

The press gallery has led this with its governing principle that there can only ever be one story, and one narrative for reporting that story. John Howard couldn't be beaten, until the day he couldn't win. Kim Beazley was tomorrow's man, until he was yesterday's man. Barnaby Joyce was a top bloke, until he was a cad and an incompetent minister. They even boast about the conditions that create the samey-sameness of political coverage, and the inability to snap out of it; a magic land of sharing and caring, where what they think of as competition is the narcissism of minor differences.

TL;DR the CPG method of reporting journalism has infected the rest of the media, which used to do the real investigative reporting. Comparing the reporting of Emma Hussar to Barnaby Joyce:

quote:

he press gallery, through its easily gamed One Story One Narrative policy, decided in Fairfax's final week that there would be two stories:

* the byelections of 28 July, of which Our Malcolm would win at least one because #balance, and
* Emma Husar

Taking the second first: I've worked for some crap bosses and I'm glad I never worked for Emma Husar. That said, in the great annals of graft and bludging in Australian politics, Husar's dog-walking and child-minding simply do not rate. And the more experience you have observing politics, the less excuse you have for slavering over every twist-and-turn in this non-story, the less credibility you have when you claim you'd love to do Serious Journalism, oh my goodness did you see what Emma Husar just did ...? Press gallery who disdained going after Barnaby Joyce (and who still regard his story as a sex scandal rather than rorting or policy incompetence) are hogwild for all things Husar.

Emma Husar's domestic incompetence recalls Queensland Labor MP Leanne Donaldson. Another unmarried mother who became a Labor MP, Donaldson hit the headlines for antics like driving a car while unregistered and not paying council rates. Anastacia Palaszczuk sacked her from the ministry and at the last state election, Donaldson lost her seat. Donaldson has spoken of her struggle with depression, and Husar may yet do likewise; but while two anecdotes do not form a pattern, it might be worth investigating whether political parties could do more to support women in politics, and that such support might be the necessary price for all that easy talk about attracting more women to public office.

In the Coalition, unmarried women are all but excluded by dint of sexism. What those parties lose in crushing the aspirations of capable young women and appealing to a broader constituency, they save themselves the embarrassment of a Husar or a Donaldson. Those women who break that rule (e.g. Marise Payne, Gladys Berejiklian, Julie Bishop) spent decades studying the factional tectonics of the party and leveraged it with overwhelming support, overriding any objections about their domestic circumstances. Bronwyn Bishop only ran for preselection after her children were adults and her marriage ended: her far-right constituency would never have backed her if her husband and children were an issue, or had she never married at all. The key is to attract candidates who aren't fixtures of the party landscape and to give them an inkling that they just might have a chance, but that key turns no lock in the Coalition. They'll endorse a man at face value but won't consider a woman they don't know intimately.

Husar isn't a member of the government. In two of the four byelections on 28 July (the two seats where the main competition came from strong Liberal candidates), the Labor candidates were women. The clear implication of the Murdoch jihad against Husar is that those candidates are just like her: a vote for the Labor woman is a vote for Gillard/Jordan Peterson chaos. As it happens, those two women are headed back to Canberra, and it is entirely possible that Husar won't. She might become another victim of a brutal system, she might lash out at her entire party and the journalists. She hasn't entered Lindy Chamberlain territory for weird and prurient media coverage, but you can see it from here.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

bell jar posted:

What are you, a child?

He was scary looking, OK :shrug:
This was almost 10 years ago so at the time I thought he was just a pompous arse and not someone who deserved to be spit on

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Pictured: motivational posters from Anidav's work

https://twitter.com/natsowinski/status/1024672642043994112

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005


Am I alone in instantly ignoring anything someone who uses the term "breeders" has to say?

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug

kirbysuperstar posted:

lol I listened to the radio like an idiot

Hey! 2SER has some good shows and Loose Joints, foreign dub airwaves, and ears have ears on FBi are all good too

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

:thunk:

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
rebrand the greens as the democratic socialists of australia and pretend the DSA social media engagement is all theirs

AgentF
May 11, 2009
Rename the Greens to Pauline Hanson's The Greens Party

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
It really makes you wonder if Shorten is actually unpopular

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Anidav posted:

It really makes you wonder if Shorten is actually unpopular

the narrative

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

If you asked Labor voters their preferred Liberal leader they'd pick someone else too, you'd have to have your head in the sand for the past ten years to not see what chaos leadership turmoil wreaks on parties you don't like

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
So ultimately the question is useless. And polls should not ask it.

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Kafka Syrup
Apr 29, 2009

Reclines Obesily posted:

rebrand the greens as the democratic socialists of australia and pretend the DSA social media engagement is all theirs

Not to like be serious at all, but I legit wish the Australian Left could be less irony-ridden and actually do something coherent like the DSA.

I know groups like the Anti-Poverty Networks are doing amazing work, but they're pretty localised, and organisations like Unite and Search are both KINDA like a really basic, tiny versions of the DSA.

But it'd be nice to have something national that didn't just end up being shouting matches between Labor, the Greens, the Alternative, the Alliance, the Resistance and whatever other spin-off socialist groups are out there.

Anidav posted:

So ultimately the question is useless. And polls should not ask it.

It's not useless, but Essential doesn't ask the "swing voter" questions like who did you vote for last election, who do you plan on voting for this election and how likely are you to change your vote. This cohort of voters (especially predominantly Liberal voters who might swing to Labor) identify strongly with party leadership and it's very relevant to electoral success to know if the leader resonates with the voter in question.

Interestingly, this week's Essential poll explores that idea in a bit of detail. If you didn't already know, the full poll results are released on their Essential Report website a day after publication.

Kafka Syrup fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Aug 2, 2018

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