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If not for the Kyle Boller disaster the Ravens wouldn't be a perennial playoff team that has won two Superbowls, the horrorSubstandard posted:He's #1 for talking poo poo, which is why I like him. #1 at crying on the bench after losing to the Lions 
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Melvin Ingram is my favorite defender
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Sep 1, 2018 20:15
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Intruder posted:If not for the Kyle Boller disaster the Ravens wouldn't be a perennial playoff team that has won two Superbowls, the horror We're not a perennial playoff team anymore. And it's not that the Ravens' showing was bad, it's that they would have been the league's top franchise if Billick hadn't messed up the QB position so badly. But even he might not have been able to mess it up if they hadn't overachieved in 2002. Even after Ray Lewis went down we did surprisingly well. But had we been the league's worst as many expected, we woulda had Carson Palmer. We would have missed Suggs. But Palmer would have been amazing for this franchise and him at QB with Jamal at RB, and Ray Lewis on defense, would have been able to stand up to the Patriots. And anyone else for that matter. If our 2002 showing is the same, then we should have done what we could to keep Jeff Blake(unless he retired I can't remember), and if not him then don't draft Boller and get Kurt Warner or Kerry Collins instead. Then the next year you had three great QBs you can potentially trade for. But I am glad we didn't end up with Roethlisberger even if he is a good QB.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:16
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how exactly would you have gotten carson palmer
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Sep 1, 2018 20:18
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Imagine looking back at Carson Palmer's career and thinking that having him would have made your team the Patriots
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Sep 1, 2018 20:20
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a neat cape posted:Von Miller
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Sep 1, 2018 20:25
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Intruder posted:Imagine looking back at Carson Palmer's career and thinking that having him would have made your team the Patriots He was really great before the Kimo Von Oehlhoffen injury in the playoffs. Plus it wouldn't just be about Palmer. We had a killer defense plus Jamal Lewis. We only needed someone competent and with Palmer we had a legitimate top QB. Plus Brady wasn't even amazing in those years either. Remember back then he had a great defense plus Corey Dillon at RB. With Palmer on the 06 Ravens that team could have pushed for 19-0. We'd get him because we could've been the #1 overall selection in the 2003 draft. Palmer was picked first overall then Leftwich. Billick traded up for Boller thinking that Boller would've been a top guy like that if he had entered the following year.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:27
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Intruder posted:Imagine looking back at Carson Palmer's career and thinking that having him would have made your team the Patriots Carson Palmer was pretty good?
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Sep 1, 2018 20:27
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Kawalimus posted:He was really great before the Kimo Von Oehlhoffen injury in the playoffs. Plus it wouldn't just be about Palmer. We had a killer defense plus Jamal Lewis. We only needed someone competent and with Palmer we had a legitimate top QB. Plus Brady wasn't even amazing in those years either. Remember back then he had a great defense plus Corey Dillon at RB. With Palmer on the 06 Ravens that team could have pushed for 19-0. I'm gonna go with no, you would not have been the #1 pick over the 2-14 Bengals
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Sep 1, 2018 20:29
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Palmer was "pretty good" but never good enough to turn a team into the perennially best team in the AFC. And if you have Palmer, like you mentioned you don't have Suggs so talking about how great your defense was three years later is silly. You're probably also improved enough to not get Ngata
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Sep 1, 2018 20:31
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a neat cape posted:I'm gonna go with no, you would not have been the #1 pick over the 2-14 Bengals It doesn't seem likely looking back. But the 2002 Ravens were 7-9. We also beat the Bengals twice, and neither game was a blowout by any means. The 2002 Ravens were projected by many to be the worst team in football that year. If we had underperformed just a little more say that makes us lose both those games to the Bengals. Now they're 4-12 and we're 5-11. That team overperformed by a lot of games due to a few factors. But if we hadn't had Jeff Blake after Ray Lewis went down? A lot would have gone differently.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:36
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1035973285853491200 Oh gently caress,  , they had to give a second rounder to the Bears.Not a bad haul in return, but drat. This Ann Killion quote: quote:Give the Raiders this much. https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/ar...m_medium=social Coldforge fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 20:37
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Intruder posted:Palmer was "pretty good" but never good enough to turn a team into the perennially best team in the AFC. And if you have Palmer, like you mentioned you don't have Suggs so talking about how great your defense was three years later is silly. You're probably also improved enough to not get Ngata All the Ravens needed was a competent QB, and Palmer was much better than that around that time. With the broken shell of McNair the 2006 Ravens were amazing. Yes we might've missed Suggs and Ngata. But this was during Newsome's prime where he was so good at getting great defensive players all through the draft.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:39
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Kawalimus posted:It doesn't seem likely looking back. But the 2002 Ravens were 7-9. We also beat the Bengals twice, and neither game was a blowout by any means. The 2002 Ravens were projected by many to be the worst team in football that year. If we had underperformed just a little more say that makes us lose both those games to the Bengals. Now they're 4-12 and we're 5-11. That team overperformed by a lot of games due to a few factors. But if we hadn't had Jeff Blake after Ray Lewis went down? A lot would have gone differently. The Lions also went 3-13 and the Texans 4-12
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Sep 1, 2018 20:39
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why are you melting over being unable to draft carson palmer
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Sep 1, 2018 20:40
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That's less than I thought it was going to be. I wonder if the Packers could've gotten him if they offered both 2019 first rounders? Surely that would've been worth more to the Raiders than a 2019 and a 2020. Eh, anyway I'm over it. Packers have plenty of cap room now and two first rounders in what should be a deep draft for pass rusher. Good to go.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:41
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Intruder posted:The Lions also went 3-13 and the Texans 4-12 They both had first round QBs already with Harrington and Carr. I doubt if either would have taken Palmer. Neither team took Leftwich, who was considered an amazing prospect just behind Palmer.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:43
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there's little difference between the bears 2020 1st and the raiders 2020 2nd
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Sep 1, 2018 20:43
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The top 5 defensive players in the NFL is me
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Sep 1, 2018 20:45
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Kawalimus posted:They both had first round QBs already with Harrington and Carr. I doubt if either would have taken Palmer. Neither team took Leftwich, who was considered an amazing prospect just behind Palmer. Bears were 4-12. And either team could have traded back I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around thinking Carson 1-3 in the playoffs Palmer was the missing piece of a dynasty
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Sep 1, 2018 20:47
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Intruder posted:Bears were 4-12. And either team could have traded back Palmer wasn't the only player on those teams ya know. Plus at 36 with the Cardinals he put on an amazing season. The potential was there with him, and on an amazing defensive team like the Ravens he could have done a lot. Imagine him with Derrick Mason and Todd Heap. Maybe Terrell Owens might've wanted to come to Baltimore if Palmer had been QB instead of Boller. Now imagine that team.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:50
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THE STEELERS CUT LANDRY JONES YOU MOTHERFUCKRES AHHHHHHHHH I'm so happy
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Sep 1, 2018 20:52
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You're imagining that team without taking into account the subtractions from it. You're talking up how amazing their defense was without taking into account subtracting Suggs and Ngata, two of its very best pieces, from it
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Sep 1, 2018 20:53
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Intruder posted:You're imagining that team without taking into account the subtractions from it. You're talking up how amazing their defense was without taking into account subtracting Suggs and Ngata, two of its very best pieces, from it We'd still have Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, plus like I mentioned Ozzie Newsome was amazing at stocking defense in this period and he would have found someone to fill those positions and Palmer at QB would have made up for it. Palmer in 2005 and 2006 was better than Brady had ever been. Brady really didn't become a great QB until 2007. The only reason Brady was even in top QB conversations around those times was because "Wins" which was largely caused by great defense and running game. Plus cheating against the Colts and mugging their receivers that whole game. Palmer/Owens/Todd Heap/Jamal Lewis with our defense(even minus Suggs), would have been unbelievably good. And absolutely the best team of the era. Without injuries that team is the dominant team.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:57
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say no to bats posted:Has to be. There is no bank in the world that won't loan money secured by an NFL franchise.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:57
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:THE STEELERS CUT LANDRY JONES YOU MOTHERFUCKRES AHHHHHHHHH The Hack is available to fill your need.
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Sep 1, 2018 21:00
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Kawalimus posted:We'd still have Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, plus like I mentioned Ozzie Newsome was amazing at stocking defense in this period and he would have found someone to fill those positions and Palmer at QB would have made up for it. Palmer in 2005 and 2006 was better than Brady had ever been. Brady really didn't become a great QB until 2007. The only reason Brady was even in top QB conversations around those times was because "Wins" which was largely caused by great defense and running game. Plus cheating against the Colts and mugging their receivers that whole game. "I just assume the defense would be exactly as good without two of its best players" got it lol I'm just imagining alternate universe Kawalimus where the Ravens win it all in 2006 with Palmer but because two of their defensive stalwarts are absent the defense doesn't hold up like it did in reality, and he whines about how if they had stuck with their philosophy of having a strong defense instead of chasing a QB they'd be the Patriots
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Sep 1, 2018 21:02
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:THE STEELERS CUT LANDRY JONES YOU MOTHERFUCKRES AHHHHHHHHH  Landry Jones.
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Sep 1, 2018 21:05
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CharlestheHammer posted:The Hack is available to fill your need. Or Kaepernick.
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Sep 1, 2018 21:05
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Intruder posted:"I just assume the defense would be exactly as good without two of its best players" got it We did chase a QB. The same year we got Suggs. We just chased Boller. And we chased a receiver too! That was Terrell Owens. If we'd had someone not Kyle Boller he might've been excited to come here instead of wanting to go elsewhere. It's not like we completely neglected the offense in favor of defense. You can't just ignore how good Newsome was in those days. Plus you're ignoring that even without Suggs and Ngata, there are still two hall of famers in their primes on that defense! Also if we're the 2-14 team in 2002, we don't give up our 2004 draft pick so we even have an extra guy from that. Vince Wilfork went 21st in that draft and it's conceivable the Ravens could have gotten him. That pick even came from the Ravens, apparently. Plus he went to Miami which is where Reed and Lewis were from. Wilfork would have almost certainly been a Raven. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 21:06
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Ahahahaa the Raiders traded for AJ McCarron https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1035981682787188738?s=19
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Sep 1, 2018 21:08
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waah posted:Ahahahaa the Raiders traded for AJ McCarron Come on Gruden give up more than Hue was going to!!
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Sep 1, 2018 21:11
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waah posted:Ahahahaa the Raiders traded for AJ McCarron why would anyone want him he's worse than nathan peterman
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Sep 1, 2018 21:11
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waah posted:Ahahahaa the Raiders traded for AJ McCarron I hope it's for Carr
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Sep 1, 2018 21:11
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 kicker newshttps://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1035983575982768128?s=19 Still the second most accurate kicker in NFL history.
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Sep 1, 2018 21:13
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CharlestheHammer posted:The Hack is available to fill your need. Sorry, we have Mason Rudolph and literal rocket scientist Josh Dobbs
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Sep 1, 2018 21:14
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Tom Sellout posted:
what nickname am i suppose to give to brett maher
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Sep 1, 2018 21:16
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Jonathan Fisk posted:why would anyone want him I guarantee you that Gruden will cite his "never-give-up"-ness from that 4th quarter of the ever-important Final Preseason Game It's like catnip for corny Pop Warner coaches
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Sep 1, 2018 21:20
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incompetent posted:what nickname am i suppose to give to brett maher i've been calling him "Camp Leg" for at least a month
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Sep 1, 2018 21:21
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Volkerball posted:Richard Seymour hit the ground running when he got traded to the raiders a few days before the first game of the season. Shove mans out of way and kill mans behind him isn't rocket science. Yeah it really isn't. The lingo for alignments and assignments are probably a bit different but in the end it's the same poo poo he's been doing for years, all he has to learn are the words and even that is semi-optional. Fill your gap, stop the run, get after the quarterback Intruder posted:But Aaron Donald got a contract The notable difference there is that like the Bears, the Rams still have their QB on a rookie contract. MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:THE STEELERS CUT LANDRY JONES YOU MOTHERFUCKRES AHHHHHHHHH They pretty much had to, right? Did they keep Dobbs and Rudolph or just one of those? xbilkis posted:If the Bears are confident in Trubisky, they've got $ and a real bad need for an impact defensive player. Get on board the "go all-in while you've got a rookie contract QB" bandwagon Just wanted to say good call my man
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