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RoastBeef
Jul 11, 2008


Euros are asleep, post l a n e s



Just one more span bro ..., just one more

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MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

RoastBeef posted:

Euros are asleep, post l a n e s



Just one more span bro ..., just one more

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
:jackbud:

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

A tale of two housing policies:

Arizona Governor vetoes a bipartisan housing bill over concerns that it isn't "balanced" in considering current homeownership home values and building new housing because it errs too far on the side of new construction. Also, because the Department of Defense objected to increased density and new construction near military bases.

The DoD complaint seems like a fig leaf that could easily be changed and it is mostly about appeasing people who are terrified about new housing attracting traffic/crime or reducing property values.

https://twitter.com/brahmresnik/status/1769799663010349119
https://twitter.com/brahmresnik/status/1769802308370465074

On the other hand, the WSJ reports on Austin's rapid homebuilding project, but frames it as a negative because rents and home values have fallen 7% since they started allowing significantly more housing construction and engaged in "overbuilding" according to the WSJ.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1769710393125974503

WSJ: Good things are actually bad

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

xpost from main US hread

WSJ: Good things are actually bad

Turns out we can build our way of it.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

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WSJ: Good things are actually bad

WSJ’s target market are people who collect rent or otherwise profit from high property values.

I’d be more worried if it were a real newspaper giving that kind of editorial rather than a financial rag.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Badger of Basra posted:

Apropos of the impact of NEPA on project timelines - maybe it's not NEPA but there is definitely a lot of unnecessary (and not even legally required) process BS going on

https://twitter.com/numble/status/1557525354788577282

https://twitter.com/numble/status/1557525425110278145
I was just looking for another post of mine and at some point I must've quoted this one.

It's 2024 now so let's see what's happening!

quote:

L.A. Metro awards Vermont Transit Corridor Planning and Environmental Study to Vermont Corridor Partners
The study calls for a comprehensive BRT and rail improvement strategy along Vermont Avenue, the second busiest transit corridor in L.A. Metro’s bus portfolio

The Los Angeles County Transportation Authority (L.A. Metro) has awarded the Vermont Transit Corridor Planning and Environmental Study to the Vermont Corridor Partners (VCP), an AECOM-led joint venture with minority-owned small businesses Terry A. Hayes Associates Inc. and RAW International, Inc.

The study calls for a comprehensive bus rapid transit (BRT) and rail improvement strategy along Vermont Avenue, the second busiest transit corridor in L.A. Metro’s bus portfolio, stretching from Hollywood Boulevard to 120th St. The joint venture will play a central role in its planning, design and implementation, with an emphasis on mobility access, equity and community priorities.
https://www.masstransitmag.com/mana...rridor-partners
The announcement doesn't make it super clear but it's either the "environmental study for medium term BRT project" in which case it's only a year late, or the "lon-germ rail study", in which case it's right on schedule.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

mobby_6kl posted:

I was just looking for another post of mine and at some point I must've quoted this one.

It's 2024 now so let's see what's happening!

https://www.masstransitmag.com/mana...rridor-partners
The announcement doesn't make it super clear but it's either the "environmental study for medium term BRT project" in which case it's only a year late, or the "lon-germ rail study", in which case it's right on schedule.


https://twitter.com/TribTowerViews/status/1775678660479254874

they're also using a CEQA exemption

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1785127024555958284
https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1785127026942415253
https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1785127046756343980
https://twitter.com/quantian1/status/1785150269606576275

What do the people want? To make housing more affordable through supporting laws that make housing ungodly expensive.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
It reminds me of a survey from my province that indicated the average voter favoured a high level of services, low taxes, and no assumption of public debt.

Like NO loving poo poo! I'd like magic too! It sounds great!

What people ultimately want, and they will tell you this if you poll them on any subject, is any solution that allows them to continue living precisely the way they want, more conveniently, for less money. If you poll about specific policies, they will not think past the very immediate effects of the policy you just asked them about.

Democracy has to stop being policy-level. It has to be goal-level, because people are really loving stupid. "Do we agree that affordable housing for humans is good? Yes? Okay, that's a mandate, let's get some experts to design evidence-based policy to achieve that goal" instead of asking specifically which policy people support.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

PT6A posted:

Democracy has to stop being policy-level. It has to be goal-level, because people are really loving stupid. "Do we agree that affordable housing for humans is good? Yes? Okay, that's a mandate, let's get some experts to design evidence-based policy to achieve that goal" instead of asking specifically which policy people support.
That sounds like work. Can't we instead talk endlessly about building tiny homes for the homeless, jerk ourselves off over the six units built, and then vehemently decry construction of multi-unit buildings where the smallest units have at least twice the square footage as inhumanely small?

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Cugel the Clever posted:

That sounds like work. Can't we instead talk endlessly about building tiny homes for the homeless, jerk ourselves off over the six units built, and then vehemently decry construction of multi-unit buildings where the smallest units have at least twice the square footage as inhumanely small?

Bonus points if you talk about shoving the unfortunate into shipping containers, which is also a recurring theme for some unknowable reason.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

PT6A posted:

Bonus points if you talk about shoving the unfortunate into shipping containers, which is also a recurring theme for some unknowable reason.

Because people look at the giant pile of used shipping containers and think they can come up with another way to reuse the waste even though they've never worked with shipping containers before. The people who have experience know most of the worthwhile uses are already done, and that shipping containers have a lot of issues for the other uses because they are made as cheaply as possible.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/may/06/netherlands-amsterdam-next-level-housing-crisis

Here's a reminder that it's not just the anglosphere that has this housing crisis. Good old Amsterdam also has NIMBYs, a government that decided they only need to subsidize demand for housing and not support building additional housing for decades, and a housing crisis bad enough that there is a mass of fully employed homeless people.

Minenfeld!
Aug 21, 2012



Then you get stuff like this: https://www.courant.com/2022/12/16/glastonbury-lawsuit-seeks-to-block-developer-from-transforming-tobacco-warehouse-into-30-condos/

If I recall, this dipshit bought his house a few years or so prior, won this lawsuit, and then flipped his house for a few hundred thousand more than he bought it.

There's a bill being considered right now called something like "Work Live Ride" that has a bunch of TOD provisions, but the biggest and raddest part of the bill is allowing city housing authorities to act as land developers outside their own cities. It's made all the worst people mad, including a group of morons that claim the housing issue in the state is because there are too many poors that can't afford houses. The bill passed the house a few days ago.

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Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Philly just passed a city charter amendment that requires the city to pay for NIMBY groups' legal fees and sanctions when they engage in sanctionable behavior.

I was really furious that this passed.

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