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DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Yes, the mainstream media is definitely not conjuring up conspiracies about foreign interference and calling people traitors based on shaky to zero evidence

Aint nobody stopping your broke brain from suing them, have at it.

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Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

The only radio show hosts zi listen to are Frasier and that guy from the GTA games

lazlow hasn't had a good show since the original one, even in GTA:SA it was way more awkward than charming

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Lowtax posted:

If you guys want to talk about radio show hosts who have idiotic, repulsive guests, let's talk about Phil Hendrie! Man, his guests are so dumb and ignorant! I mean, where does he find these people!!! Am I right or what here guys
morning zoo is the best radio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJkxBLgd5Hs

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

DogonCrook posted:

But he wouldnt have a point because saying someone is a traitor to their country committing nefarious illegal things and conspiracies isnt a whole lot different from crying fire in a theater, especially when as you would imagine, people believe that nonsense and start showing up at peoples houses with guns ready to do something about it.

I dont know where exactly that line is and im not sure its settled legally but alex jones at least crept right up to it.

All the posters mewling about poor Alex are broke brained conspiracy theorists that are playing it down hard itt because Lowtax is here.
A couple of the broker brained ones are too shameless enough to even do that though (see: Oxballs).

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Grape posted:

All the posters mewling about poor Alex are broke brained conspiracy theorists that are playing it down hard itt because Lowtax is here.
A couple of the broker brained ones are too shameless enough to even do that though (see: Oxballs).

this would have been me not long ago but I'm pretty resigned to the fact that people are just gonna choose sides and don't even see their own hypocrisy so at least I'll get that "I told you so" sensible chuckle when they start censoring the DSA

because lol if you think the far left isn't also a corporatist target

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

VikingSkull posted:

this would have been me not long ago but I'm pretty resigned to the fact that people are just gonna choose sides and don't even see their own hypocrisy so at least I'll get that "I told you so" sensible chuckle when they start censoring the DSA

because lol if you think the far left isn't also a corporatist target

lol literally every one of you interchangeable pusses is insanely reluctant to actually discuss what your beloved red hog did to get the hammer brought down upon him.
The specific circumstances that are scorching him right now in courts, that led to the platforms finally kicking him out.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Grape posted:

lol literally every one of you interchangeable pusses is insanely reluctant to actually discuss what your beloved red hog did to get the hammer brought down upon him.
The specific circumstances that are scorching him right now in courts, that led to the platforms finally kicking him out.

I'm reluctant to say that he's a shitheel who wrongly thinks sandy hook was a false flag?

I didn't know this

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

VikingSkull posted:

this would have been me not long ago but I'm pretty resigned to the fact that people are just gonna choose sides and don't even see their own hypocrisy so at least I'll get that "I told you so" sensible chuckle when they start censoring the DSA

because lol if you think the far left isn't also a corporatist target

"Haha im totally that stupid im just real lazy now lol"

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

VikingSkull posted:

I'm reluctant to say that he's a shitheel who wrongly thinks sandy hook was a false flag?

I didn't know this

Oh of course, it's just wrongthink! Nooooo consequences have been spread and happening because of his championing that nonsense!
Just good ol' harmless speech.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
it's time to nationalize social media and treat it as a utility

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
I'm gonna get a powerful media platform and use it to spread a major scoop about how Viking Skull fucks dogs and likes it lots, he kidnaps the dogs he uses too, poor dogs. He wants to take away your own dogs as well! (for loving purposes). Bad man Viking Skull, won't someone stop him? Bad man.

Looking forward to your full throated support for my right to do this, Viking Skull.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Grape posted:

I'm gonna get a powerful media platform and use it to spread a major scoop about how Viking Skull fucks dogs and likes it lots, he kidnaps the dogs he uses too, poor dogs. He wants to take away your own dogs as well! (for loving purposes). Bad man Viking Skull, won't someone stop him? Bad man.

Looking forward to your full throated support for my right to do this, Viking Skull.

that's why we gots libel laws :clint:

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

VikingSkull posted:

that's why we gots libel laws :clint:

its contradictory to believe that justly illegal acts are simultaneously rights

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Grape posted:

I'm gonna get a powerful media platform and use it to spread a major scoop about how Viking Skull fucks dogs and likes it lots, he kidnaps the dogs he uses too, poor dogs. He wants to take away your own dogs as well! (for loving purposes). Bad man Viking Skull, won't someone stop him? Bad man.

Looking forward to your full throated support for my right to do this, Viking Skull.

:chloe:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

VikingSkull posted:

this would have been me not long ago but I'm pretty resigned to the fact that people are just gonna choose sides and don't even see their own hypocrisy so at least I'll get that "I told you so" sensible chuckle when they start censoring the DSA

because lol if you think the far left isn't also a corporatist target
well wake me up when the corporate overlords decide to pull the plug on DSA for no good reason because as it stands alex jones is inciting violence and sending parents of dead kids into hiding. he's a twat and he had it coming.

VikingSkull posted:

it's time to nationalize social media and treat it as a utility
that would be something you can say to appeal to socialists but i doubt that putting right-wing maniac trump appointees in charge of the algorithms of social media companies is going to work out for the left

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

curlys gold posted:

its contradictory to believe that justly illegal acts are simultaneously rights

or, I'd rather governmental courts decide what constitutes illegal and prohibited speech and not some reptilian billionaire

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

VikingSkull posted:

or, I'd rather governmental courts decide what constitutes illegal and prohibited speech and not some reptilian billionaire

so you claim that this particular form of speech is a right, without having come to any personal conclusions about whether it constitutes an illegal act

that is also contradictory

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

curlys gold posted:

so you claim that this particular form of speech is a right, without having come to any personal conclusions about whether it constitutes an illegal act

that is also contradictory

I claim that in the 21st century, social media platforms constitute the village square, due to monopolistic practices by the corporations involved, and we are in dire need of a judicial ruling on the validity of such a structure.

Captain Yossarian
Feb 24, 2011

All new" Rings of Fire"
Cool, good job VS way to go

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

VikingSkull posted:

I claim that in the 21st century, social media platforms constitute the village square, due to monopolistic practices by the corporations involved, and we are in dire need of a judicial ruling on the validity of such a structure.

Buddy in a communal society you do what alex jones did you get your poo poo kicked in right there on the spot.

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

VikingSkull posted:

I claim that in the 21st century, social media platforms constitute the village square, due to monopolistic practices by the corporations involved, and we are in dire need of a judicial ruling on the validity of such a structure.

social media is a permanent platform and can never be equivalent to a town square for that reason

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

VikingSkull posted:

I claim that in the 21st century, social media platforms constitute the village square, due to monopolistic practices by the corporations involved, and we are in dire need of a judicial ruling on the validity of such a structure.

That's fuckin' dumb as hell lol.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

VikingSkull posted:

I claim that in the 21st century, social media platforms constitute the village square, due to monopolistic practices by the corporations involved, and we are in dire need of a judicial ruling on the validity of such a structure.

lol

i had someone putting forward this idea in my discord last night. i pointed out that if you want to equate it to the constitutional concept of the town square, every citizen has an equal right to it and the entire current practice of algorithms, subscriptions, and etc are unconstitutional because they provide inherently unequal access. the only way that the government has been able to restrict this right is demonstration permits so commerce isn't affected, and that doesn't apply to these dedicated platforms online. there's no disruption possible, really.

so as a result you just blast out all content, to everyone, all the time, ever, with no sorting, no filtering, and no way to stop beyond simply avoiding the town square (or not visiting the website).

long story short he stumbled around trying to mentally backflip over this for about half an hour before parting the server

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Aug 10, 2018

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

lol

"Whoa get a load of this guy restating an actually way less horrible version of what my idol actually did to dozens of grieving families!"

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
I think you have mistaken the funny article thread for the get extremely angry about politics thread

Squish
Nov 22, 2007

Unrelenting.
Lipstick Apathy

Nessus posted:

You will be glad to know that @jack at Twitter feels a profound ideological commitment to the very concept of free speech as long as that free speech is from a right-wing source, and is also not Lowtax

I don't know who @Jack is or what relevance he has here, but the very idea that twitter or any of the social media sites are favouring right-wing anything is entirely laughable.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

I think you have mistaken the funny article thread for the get extremely angry about politics thread

Like it wasn't you dudes sneaking in the side door and loudly clearing your throats about free speech and Orwell or whatever the hell lol.

"I'm not extremely mad about being called out, I'm just really concerned about the appropriate laughter levels in this thread."
*hastily exchanges infowars hat for cap with "teh fUnnAy poLEEce" doodled on it*

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Grape posted:

Like it wasn't you dudes sneaking in the side door and loudly clearing your throats about free speech and Orwell or whatever the hell lol.

"I'm not extremely mad about being called out, I'm just really concerned about the appropriate laughter levels in this thread."
*hastily exchanges infowars hat for cap with "teh fUnnAy poLEEce" doodled on it*

"You dudes"? Are you saying there is a conspiracy

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Ha ha! Very good funnys Lowtax! Haha! This is me over here check it out, *holds for pause* "L O L", yeah whoooo, heehee! :circlefap: :D :haw: :imunfunny:
Yes yes!

cough, hmm yeah, also just like, consider the death of freedom dealt out by our corporate overlord/reptiles/jews. PS: Sandy Hook #justaskingquestions. .... *shuffles feet*

um uh ANYWAY AHAHAHAH :lolplant: :lolplant: :lolplant: LOL DEE LOL

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
:yikes:

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

"You dudes"? Are you saying there is a conspiracy

is this a bad joke or are you really that goddamn stupid

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
lol Oxball's whole "gimmick" is getting extremely mad about stuff and then asking why those people aren't making him laugh.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Grape posted:

lol Oxball's whole "gimmick" is getting extremely mad about stuff and then asking why those people aren't making him laugh.

I think you have that backwards

Split Pea Superman
Dec 16, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Coolguye posted:

lol

i had someone putting forward this idea in my discord last night. i pointed out that if you want to equate it to the constitutional concept of the town square, every citizen has an equal right to it and the entire current practice of algorithms, subscriptions, and etc are unconstitutional because they provide inherently unequal access. the only way that the government has been able to restrict this right is demonstration permits so commerce isn't affected, and that doesn't apply to these dedicated platforms online. there's no disruption possible, really.

so as a result you just blast out all content, to everyone, all the time, ever, with no sorting, no filtering, and no way to stop beyond simply avoiding the town square (or not visiting the website).

long story short he stumbled around trying to mentally backflip over this for about half an hour before parting the server

That's silly. It's a right to speech, not a right to be heard. This is a purely negative imposition i.e. speech cannot be restricted as individuals are self-evidently free to make the statements and expressions they so choose. There's no "equal access" obligation to ensure everyone is aware of what was said. The government doesn't have to provide you with access to every book ever published, or every second of recorded footage in history for example.

The filtering and algorithms are a bit troublesome, but that's mostly due to transparency issues, preferential treatment, and inconsistent application. While it's going to be a huge and controversial headache of a task, ultimately I think that at some point the government is going to have to establish some sort of dedicated legal and regulatory organization to oversee this type of stuff as the companies themselves simply aren't equipped with the tools and proper motivations to do this themselves.

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer
Shut up and stop being serious about whatever the gently caress you're talking about.

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

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curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

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frh
Dec 6, 2014

Hire Kenny G to play for me in the elevator.
https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1028054417499545601?s=19

You gonna have to update your article Lowtax

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Lowtax posted:

Check it out if you like articles about Alex Jones: https://www.somethingawful.com/news/alex-jones/

holy poo poo is that twitter account still around?

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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
I just checked. It isn't

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