GoonTier 2018: NFL Fantasy Promotion/Relegation Keeper League (Season 6)

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darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Better Late Then Never Edition

What is Promotion / Relegation?

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Wikipedia posted:
In sports leagues, promotion and relegation is a process where teams are transferred between two divisions based on their performance for the completed season.
The best-ranked teams in the lower division are promoted to the division above, and the worst-ranked teams in the higher division are relegated to the division below.

Tier A (the Tier Jerkers) is a keeper league. Tier B (the Trail of Tiers) is a redraft league. Sucks to be in Tier B.

Buyin: $20
Website: ESPN
Tiers: 2
# of teams per tier: 12
# of teams promoted each year: 3 winners of a 6 team playoff
# of teams relegated each year: 3 losers of a 4 team playoff
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
Roster: QB 2 RB 2 WR TE FLEX 1 DL 2 LB 2 DB DFLEX 7 BN IR
Scoring: 0.5 PPR, otherwise ESPN Standard

IDP Scoring

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Tackle Solo: 1
Tackle Assist: .5
Sack: 3
Interception: 4
Fumble Force: 3
Fumble Recovery: 3
Defensive Touchdown: 6
Safety: 6
Pass Defended: 1
Block Kick : 6
Tackles for Loss: 2

Payout
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout

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1st place: $115
2nd place: $40
3rd place: $20
Highest points total each week of regular season: $5 (x13)

Keeper System

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A) Every keeper has a one round penalty.
B) Penalties that can't be enforced will transfer to the next highest keeper.
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
D) All penalties must be enforced.
E) The following season, keeper value is based off the highest of the following: 1) The round drafted in the previous season or 2) their draft value last season prior to any transferred penalties.
F) Once a player hits free agency in any form, that player is no longer eligible to be kept the following season.

Example:

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2012 Draft:
1.) Drew Brees
2.) DeMarco Murray
4.) Percy Harvin
16.) Alfred Morris

2013:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
 	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (2nd rounder) 
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
3.) Harvin (4th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
13.) Morris (16th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Brees
	-1 for keeping DeMarco

2014:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (3rd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
8.) Morris (13th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
 	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)

2015: 
Can�t legally apply penalties to keep only Brees, DeMarco, Harvin, and Morris. 
One way to fix this is to let go one or more of the players. 
Another possibility is to keep 2014 20th round pick Johnny Manziel to absorb additional penalties.

2015:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (2nd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
4.) Morris (8th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
17.) Manziel (20th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Manziel
	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	-1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd rounder (Harvin)

Supplemental Draft
Every year at least three teams in Tier A will be disbanded. The players comprising their rosters will be put into one large player pool. Teams from Tier B will be promoted to take their place, and they will be able to select keepers from the player pool in a supplemental draft.

Any players selected in the supplemental draft will retain the same value they would have if they were kept by their previous owner. For example, if a relegated team drafted Andrew Luck in the 14th round, drafting Andrew Luck in the supplemental draft would let the new owner keep him in the 13th round (barring any other penalties).

Owners will have an unlimited number of picks in the supplemental draft, but their keepers must abide by the same keepers rules as the rest of the league. Once every owner opts out of the draft, and the commissioner determines that their keepers adhere to the league's keeper rules, the supplemental draft is over.

The supplemental draft will be in order of their finish in Tier B. The draft will snake.

Draft Order
The first year the draft order will be randomized. After that, the two tiers will follow the following draft order:

Tier A
1: 1st place Tier B
2: 2nd place Tier B
3: 3rd place Tier B
4: 9th place Tier A
5: 8th place Tier A
etc, etc

Tier B
1: 10th place Tier A
2: 11th place Tier A
3: 12th place Tier A
4: 12th place Tier B
5: 11th place Tier B
etc, etc

The draft will snake. Every attempt will be made to accommodate a live draft.

Trades
Trades will now process instantly. I'll obviously reserve the right to veto extreme attempts at collusion / cheating. We've got a good group of people here, so I doubt it'll ever come to that.

Trade deadline is the last week of the season.

Trade Draft Picks At Your Own Risk
Future draft picks can be traded in Tier A. However, keep in mind that the draft picks of a relegated team are valueless.

Furthermore, if you trade your own future draft pick to a team, your rights to that draft pick are forfeited (even if that team is then later relegated).

Ties
During the regular season, matchups can result in a tie. It's not very likely because we're using fractional points, but I've seen it happen before.

Overall record determines playoff seeding. Ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

During the playoffs, ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

Relegation Cannot Be Avoided
If someone in Tier A decides not to continue on next season for whatever reason, their roster will join the player pool for the supplemental draft and an additional team from Tier B will be promoted to take their place.

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 15, 2018

# ? Aug 15, 2018 03:35

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# ? May 4, 2024 23:26

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Our fearless leader, Zypher, has decided to leave the Fantasy Football fold and has given over control of the league. This will be a crunch year since we don't have lots of time to prep so we'll need a roll call ASAP to confirm teams, replacements, payments and the supplemental draft.

History:

2017 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2016 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2015 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2014 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42
2013 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42

2017 thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3828942&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

And this is the poo poo heap we chose to leave behind for Master Stur, Brownhat, and SouthShoreSamurai to sift through in next year's supplemental draft:

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1+1	Jordy Nelson, AJ Green, Dez Bryant
1	Amari Cooper, Dalvin Cook, DeMarco Murray
2	Sammy Watkins, Jarvis Landry
3	Doug Martin, Frank Gore
4	Alec Ogletree, Kelvin Benjamin
5	Russell Wilson, Jordan Reed, Mike Evans
6	Bobby Wagner, Kirk Cousins
7	Corey Davis, Derrick Henry
8	Kwon Alexander
9	Carlos Hyde, Landon Collins
10 	LeGarrette Blount, Zach Brown
11	CJ Mosley, Tony Jefferson
12	KJ Wright
13	Spencer Ware, Cameron Brate
14	Dion Lewis
15	Eric Ebron, OJ Howard
17	Brandon Marshall (LB), Carson Wentz, Derek Carr
18	Devin Funchess

FYI, future self: next year's cost is already baked into these numbers.

# ? Aug 15, 2018 03:38

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

[quote="darkspider42" post="487045294"]
Draft Order:

Tier A:
1. Master Stur (confirmed)
2. Brownhat (confirmed)
3. SouthShoreSamurai (confirmed)
4. darkspider42 (confirmed)
5. zeroordie (confirmed)
6. Anubis (confirmed)
7. von Metternich (confirmed)
8. Mikey Purp (confirmed)
9. Suave Fedora (confirmed)
10. ~~TubeStank~~ Hot Diggity! (confirmed)
11. jabro (confirmed)
12. dewey7788 (confirmed)

Tier B:
~~1. Bobby2times~~ (no response, out)
~~2. Zypher~~ (confirmed out)
3. Teamu pokeman (confirmed)
4. Boywunda (confirmed)
5. Waroduce (confirmed)
6. ~~Ches Neckbeard~~ (confirmed out)
7. Dkj (confirmed)
8. Chen kenichi (confirmed)
9. Baser instinct (confirmed)
10. 3 dong horse (confirmed)
11. Hiroprotagonist (confirmed)
12. Lock (confirmed)
new: Tiny Tubesteak Tom (confirmed)
new: Alfalfa (confirmed)
new: Gobias Ind (confirmed)

We'll (probably) need to setup new ESPN leagues so if you could include email addresses with your check in here or in PMs I'd appreciate it. We'll figure out money once we have a full league.

Once Master Stur (confirmed), Brownhat (confirmed), and SouthShoreSamurai (confirmed) check in we can begin the supplement draft.
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darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Aug 23, 2018

# ? Aug 15, 2018 03:41

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Keeper Lists:

Anubis

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1+1 	Michael Thomas 
1	Bilal Powell 
2	Joe Mixon
3 	Matt Ryan
4	Luke Kuechly 
5	Duke Johnson 
6	Zach Ertz 
7	Stefon Diggs
8	Jay Ajayi
9	Robby Anderson 
10	Sean Lee 
13	Eric Reid 
16	Myles Jack

von Metternich

code:

1+1	Kareem Hunt 
1	Keenan Allen 
2	Larry Fitzgerald 
3	Melvin Gordon
5	Joey Bosa 
7	DeAndre Hopkins 
9	Ryan Shazier 
11	James White

TubeStank

code:

1+1	Todd Gurley
2	Doug Baldwin
3	Davante Adams
4	CJ Anderson
5	Pierre Garcon
6	Delanie Walker
15	Marcus Mariota

jabro

code:

1+1	Ezekiel Elliott
1	Christian McCaffrey
2	Cam Newton
3	Khalil Mack
5	Kyle Rudolph
6	DeSean Jackson
7	Adam Thielen
9	Corey Coleman
13	Von Miller
15	Kenny Golladay
16	Patrick Mahomes
17	Micah Hyde
18	Telvin Smith

darkspider42

code:

1+1	David Johnson
1	Demaryius Thomas
2	Marshawn Lynch
3	Drew Brees
4	Terrelle Pryor
7	Jeremy Maclin
8	Tevin Coleman
14	Alshon Jeffrey
16	Jordan Howard
19	D�Onta Foreman

zeroordie

code:

1+1	Odell Beckham Jr, Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Brown
2	Lamar Miller
4	Tom Brady
8	Lavonte David
10	Rex Burkhead
11	Christian Kirksey
12	Ted Ginn Jr
18	Chris Carson
19	Cooper Kupp

Suave Fedora

code:

1+1	Le�Veon Bell
1	Leonard Fournette
2	Brandin Cooks
3	Golden Tate
6	Isiah Crowell
7	Michael Crabtree
10	Reshad Jones
11	Harrison Smith
13	Mark Barron
15	Travis Kelce
19	Chris Thompson

Mikey Purp

code:

1+1	LeSean McCoy, Julio Jones
2	Ameer Abdullah
3	Martavis Bryant
4	Jimmy Graham
8	Chris Hogan
9	Deion Jones
12	Melvin Ingram
13	Barry Church
15	Matthew Stafford

dewey7788

code:

1+1	Aaron Rodgers
2	Tyreek Hill
3	Devonta Freeman
7	Mark Ingram
10	Keanu Neal
17	Alvin Kamara
19	Mike Williams

# ? Aug 15, 2018 03:42

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

i long for the glory of tier a the supreme tier gently caress dez bryant namaste

# ? Aug 15, 2018 04:29

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

My keepers:

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1+1	David Johnson
7 (normal 8, +1 from DJ) Tevin Coleman
14	Alshon Jeffrey
16	Jordan Howard

# ? Aug 15, 2018 04:36

dkj: Feb 18, 2009

I'm back for tier 2!

# ? Aug 15, 2018 05:02

Suave Fedora: Jun 10, 2004

Yaaaas thank you DS for stepping up.

I�m in, PMing you my email.

# ? Aug 15, 2018 05:19

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon

Finally! I�m in and will set my keepers later tonight.

# ? Aug 15, 2018 17:08

Mikey Purp: Sep 30, 2008; I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

Awesome! I was really scared that this league wasn't coming back.

code:

1+1	LeSean McCoy, Julio Jones
2	Ameer Abdullah
3	Martavis Bryant
4	Jimmy Graham
8	Chris Hogan
9	Deion Jones
12	Melvin Ingram
13	Barry Church
15	Matthew Stafford

On second thought maybe I would have been better off if it never came back...

# ? Aug 15, 2018 18:28

dewey7788: Oct 10, 2004; Don't Toews me bro!

Yes! Thank you, darkspider! Checking in for the the run to the 3-peat!

Email: dewey7788 (at) gmail.com

# ? Aug 16, 2018 00:19

Brownhat: Jan 25, 2012; One cannot be a good person and enforce unjust laws.

Can't wait to sift through some relegation garbage!

# ? Aug 16, 2018 00:31

SouthShoreSamurai: Apr 28, 2009; It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.; Fun Shoe

I'm in. And that sure is a lovely looking poo poo heap we got there. I'll PM you my email. Thanks for taking over.

Any idea when the main draft would be? (Don't say the 3rd... lol)

# ? Aug 16, 2018 02:21

von Metternich: May 7, 2007; Why the hell not?

Checking in! Email is gptwdp at gmail dot com

1: Kareem Hunt (-1)
2: Keenan Allen (-1)
3: Melvin Gordon
4: Joey Bosa (+1)
6: DeAndre Hopkins (+1)

RIP Ryan Shazier

This is my first year keeping guys, so I think my math is right?

# ? Aug 16, 2018 03:49

zeroordie: Aug 27, 2004

I�m in. One caveat: wife is having a baby any day now. Apologies if I disappear for a day or two. Hit my email if you need something timely. (or just to chat! or TRADE!!!!)
tasog37 @ gmail

Speaking of trades. I would love to do some trading. I have too many first round keepers someone take some off my hands.

code:

1+1	Odell Beckham Jr, Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Brown
2	Lamar Miller
4	Tom Brady
8	Lavonte David
10	Rex Burkhead
11	Christian Kirksey
12	Ted Ginn Jr
18	Chris Carson
19	Cooper Kupp

# ? Aug 16, 2018 06:12

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Confirming!

# ? Aug 16, 2018 09:27

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

zeroordie posted:

I�m in. One caveat: wife is having a baby any day now. Apologies if I disappear for a day or two. Hit my email if you need something timely. (or just to chat! or TRADE!!!!)

Should have planned better. Who schedules a baby around start of football season????

Congrats - me and wife are due for kid number 3 in Dec so I might need some admin help around then.

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:09

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

When would the drafts be best for people?

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:10

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

von Metternich posted:

Checking in! Email is gptwdp at gmail dot com

1: Kareem Hunt (-1)
2: Keenan Allen (-1)
3: Melvin Gordon
4: Joey Bosa (+1)
6: DeAndre Hopkins (+1)

RIP Ryan Shazier

This is my first year keeping guys, so I think my math is right?

Looks good to me

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:15

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

I've sent out PMs to people that haven't checked in yet but message are disabled for Bobby2times and Chen kenichi. Anyone see them around posting?

Also TubeStank is showing up as not a valid username. Did they get banned/changed username/no longer around?

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:23

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

I guess I'm in, who do I send buy in to?

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:25

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

HiroProtagonist posted:

I guess I'm in, who do I send buy in to?

it will be me but I'm getting everyone checked in first to make sure we have a viable league since we started up so late.

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:26

Waroduce: Aug 5, 2008

I'm for tier b

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:48

Suave Fedora: Jun 10, 2004

darkspider42 posted:

When would the drafts be best for people?

I�m pretty wide open with exception of another draft on Monday 8/27.

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:56

Suave Fedora: Jun 10, 2004

My keeper list:

Suave Fedora :clint:

code:

1+1	Le�Veon Bell
1	Leonard Fournette
7	Michael Crabtree (becomes a 5th)
10	Reshad Jones
11	Harrison Smith
13	Mark Barron
15	Travis Kelce
19	Chris Thompson

# ? Aug 17, 2018 15:24

Mikey Purp: Sep 30, 2008; I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

Is there any way for us to get access to last year's draft results? I just really need to see this hell that I drafted myself into with my own eyes.

# ? Aug 17, 2018 15:40

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Really happy to see this is continuing on! I�ll hand over control of the ESPN leagues this AM.

Sorry, guys. It�s been a lot of fun commishing this league but my work calendar shifted and the fantasy football season now overlaps with the busiest and most overwhelming time of year for me.

If you�re short a man I�ll take the last slot, but my preference would be for you to recruit someone new and more enthusiastic.

If you look in last year�s thread, the link to the clickydraft board should still be there. LMK if there�s anything I can help with � I�ll start with league control and digging up emails for anyone I haven�t seen check in to this thread yet

# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:51

Brownhat: Jan 25, 2012; One cannot be a good person and enforce unjust laws.

Thanks for everything Zypher!

As far as draft scheduling, I would prefer to avoid Weds-Fri if possible. I usually work late those days.

# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:53

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

I've been given control of Tier B. All bow down before me!!!!

But seriously though I can help run things if necessary

# ? Aug 17, 2018 17:30

Boywunda: Jun 25, 2003

I'm in still for Tier B

# ? Aug 17, 2018 17:47

barnold: Dec 16, 2011; what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot

If you still need someone to fill Zypher's slot in Tier B, I'll take it. Never played fantasy with IDPs but I'm ready to poo poo it up

# ? Aug 17, 2018 17:48

Chen Kenichi: Jul 20, 2001

Definitely in. Went so far as to use the in-league reminder to start this up again!

# ? Aug 17, 2018 18:17

dkj: Feb 18, 2009

Chen Kenichi posted:

Definitely in. Went so far as to use the in-league reminder to start this up again!

Same

# ? Aug 17, 2018 18:39

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

darkspider42 posted:

I've sent out PMs to people that haven't checked in yet but message are disabled for Bobby2times and Chen kenichi. Anyone see them around posting?

Also TubeStank is showing up as not a valid username. Did they get banned/changed username/no longer around?

Hi I'm the artist formerly known as TubeStank and I am here

# ? Aug 17, 2018 20:11

SouthShoreSamurai: Apr 28, 2009; It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.; Fun Shoe

Hot Diggity! posted:

Hi I'm the artist formerly known as TubeStank and I am here

Don't believe him. I'M TUBESTANK!

# ? Aug 17, 2018 21:01

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

I'm Tub stank

# ? Aug 17, 2018 21:10

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Boywunda posted:

I'm in still for Tier B

my nemesis

# ? Aug 17, 2018 23:26

dewey7788: Oct 10, 2004; Don't Toews me bro!

darkspider42 posted:

When would the drafts be best for people?

Most days are good for me. Already have plans the 24th and 25th of Aug and another draft on the 31st.

# ? Aug 17, 2018 23:39

dkj: Feb 18, 2009

I'm good to draft on Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays. On Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays I'm not available until after 9pm PST.

# ? Aug 18, 2018 01:00

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# ? May 4, 2024 23:26

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Tiny Tubesteak Tom posted:

If you still need someone to fill Zypher's slot in Tier B, I'll take it. Never played fantasy with IDPs but I'm ready to poo poo it up

In - send me your email at your convience

# ? Aug 18, 2018 01:20

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