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ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

forge posted:

To think I was actually about to go play this dumb game again. Then I found out I have to email pictures of poo poo to peons to get back in the lovely internet space guild. Oh well thanks for saving me the time.

Can I have your stuff?

(I know it's an old tired meme, but I'm all out of ideas.)

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ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

tyler posted:

Why don't you have a flanders av? My world if shattered.

Copped a ban during one of FAUs “get blackout drunk and mod random threads” sessions a year or two ago, and haven’t felt like buying the av back. I mostly just shitpost these days anyways.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

dont lie you posted kid squid nearporn in a gdq thread

Yeah, it was some fanart with horny bits cropped out. Yeah, I probably deserved a vacation from the thread, probably not a ban, but nbd. No, it wasn't of underage characters, and you can go gently caress right off and crawl back under your loving rock for accusing me of that.

And more generally, what the gently caress is even wrong with you to go dig up poo poo from a year ago? Granted, you were famous for creeping on other goons even when I was still playing Eve -- I remember when you dug into the domain registration records for my webserver, looked up my old administrative contact info, and pinged me in Illum to ask me how I liked living in Bellevue.

(Although it was a good excuse for me to spend a week migrating to a different registrar that didn't charge for privacy, I suppose.)

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

I did literally none of those things, do you have me confused for loving digi?

Also I clicked your rap sheet entry, the one that links directly to the offending post.

No, I don't have you confused for digi.

I don't have the chat logs anymore, but I remember it because it was so drat weird. You pulled up the history of one of my domains in DomainTools, saw that it used to have a publicly-visible Administrative Contact at one point in the past with an old street address of mine, and pinged me in goon Jabber to point that out and ask how I liked living in Bellevue.

I know you were probably thinking "ooh an infosec thing, let's help Flanders manage his online exposure," but JFC it was one of the most awkward conversations I've ever had online, and part of the reason that I started drifting away from Eve. (And then I spent a bunch of time moving every domain I owned to a different less-lovely registrar that didn't charge an extra $10/year for privacy protection, because eww.)

Plus, voter registrations are public record anyways in my state, so anyone who knows my real name can easily pull my history of addresses anyways for a bit of money and paperwork. When the barn door is open, demonstrating that you can jump through the mousehole is less "helpful" and more "heavy breathing."

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Jazzzzz posted:

That turn of phrase makes me wonder - whatever happened to Flanders

I won Eve a few years ago, and haven't gotten the craving to come back yet. I occasionally check in on the thread to see how things are going, and that's about it.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Phlegmish posted:

You don't have to watch from the sidelines



Christ almighty, you've almost got me wanting to log back in for a month just to camp M2.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Okay, I actually installed this godawful client again and started the retvet process, and somehow I have 14 days of Omega? But according to CCP's transaction history, I haven't paid for any game time since 2017.

Did they just give some time away to everyone at some point, and it kept it until I logged in again three years later?

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Solus posted:

Our standard nidhogggur has 3 tracking computers with tracking scripts loaded and it's disgustingly good against any subcap due to how well they apply

Speaking of which. One reinstall and a bit of refitting later, it's M2 time.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"


They logged in, realized they were hosed, DDed a carrier, and then logged back out so they wouldn't have to look at their own explosion. It's about as close as TEST gets to respectable!

Bonus: PGL watching in a ceptor at a pounce as the titan died.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

SpaceDrake posted:

I never thought I would see a day when missile boats would be doctrine but here we are. It's easy to see why Muninns and Cerbs are doctrine, they really do alpha things fast (as I found out). I just kind of wish there was a Gallente or Amarr option. My Zealot. My Ishtar. :negative: At least the Keres is useful.

HMLs got a significant damage and application buff. Cerbs have really competitive alpha, as long as you're okay with the delay in application. They have selectable damage types. And they're much more nimble than Muninns, so they can maintain better grid position.

Zealots have always been a problematic hull, even before I won eve -- the lack of mid slots and the really lovely power grid means it's really hard to get a beam fit on them. (At best, you're limited to AB, and they're prone to getting kited, or pinned down by frigate/destroyer gangs.) Zealots only really make sense when you fit pulses and try to brawl at 40-60km, and that's not really something that happens in the current meta AFAICT. Maybe if BSes ever make a comeback?

e: I suppose you could do a completely untanked nano beam fit? But it'd be useless for anything other than ganks and gatecamps, since you'd have to run at the sight of a cerb or jackdaw fleet.

ullerrm fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jan 11, 2021

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

MrTargetPractice posted:

Anyone have a suggestion for an Amarr BS laser ratting ship. I'm already sick of deal with drones.

TLDR: You're looking for an Apocalypse (or better yet, a Apocalypse Navy Issue).

You have three options:
* Abaddon -- Great damage and tank bonuses, but it has absurdly terrible capacitor, so you have to devote a bunch of mid slots and rigs to get a decent runtime on it.
* Apocalypse -- Lower damage and tank than the Abaddon, but it has optimal and tracking bonuses, so its guns can actually hit cruisers and smaller targets consistently. And it has a decent capacitor, so you can easily get 4-5 minutes of runtime with relatively few mods.
* Navy Apoc -- Pretty much works exactly the same as the Apoc, but with an extra low slot and even better capacitor. But it's expensive.

If you're new to battleship PVE, definitely try the Apoc first, and then try out the Abaddon if you like it. But in any case, ratting in a BS in null -- especially in Delve -- is probably a non-starter.

e: There's also the Nightmare, which is a faction BS that does lasers and shields. It's great for PvE, but requires more than just Amarr BS skills to fly, and is super expensive, so better to use that in highsec on an alt.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

What did hostiles do? Was it another breakout attempt?

They formed up decently big (~3 subcap fleets that I counted -- cerbs, eagles, and muninns, plus random tacklers) for defensive entosis. Then, they tried to take that fleet over to M2- to shoot some bubbles and attempt a breakout, only to get met by a lot of caps and two goon subcap fleets. They had ~200 people more than us, but got shredded by fighters, and ended up bailing.

The butcher bill would have been roughly equal, but a couple of PAPI people died in what appears to be supercap pods, nudging it in Goons' favor. (Not sure if they were dead titan pilots logging back in, or people who were inexplicably flying muninns in pimp pods.)

Was a good fight, all told. My first time flying the Sacrilege, got primaried three times and caught reps around 30% each time, lots of fun.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Stereotype posted:

I remember when I was part of a wildly successful bombing run :3:

https://fleetcom.space/battlereport/NuZR3ym7BzCGL93oT

bomber fleets are so much fun

There's been so many of those today, TEST have to look like this by now

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Solus posted:

I got made space important today and i feel like this is a mistake

The worst mistake

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Agrikk posted:

What was the casino war?

The Casino War is another name for World War Bee.

In the past, CCP allowed people to run gambling sites that would take bids/bets in isk, and paid out isk or items. The house took their cut, as usual, and the site owners raked in trillions of isk. The owners ended up spending some of that isk on hiring or bribing a handful of alliances to do a coordinated invasion of Goon space. This happened right before the patch that added citadels to the game.

Before everyone could drop citadels, defending infrastructure and sovereignty was quite different. Goons ended up deciding that they couldn't defend their space as-is. So, we retreated to lowsec (the infamous Saranen) before moving to Delve, where we've lived ever since.

In the aftermath, the people who were running the casino got caught RMTing all that isk, and were permabanned. CCP ended up implementing their own clone of the casinos (Hypernet) and altering the EULA to ban any player-run gambling sites.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

EVE 2021: Low Grade Humor, High Grade Implants

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

There's few things more beautiful than spending two hours fighting on the edge of Tremor, then Vee announcing "why not, let's go, load EMP"

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr posted:

That fight in FM- was an absolute brawl. We were losing 3:1 at the start. I joined the Eagle fleet with John as FC (who sounded very much like he didnt wan't to be there) we finally jump in, and are only able to kill tackle after being on grid for 15minutes. Eventually after a warp in some friendly sabre bubbles our fleet and we immediately get bombed to poo poo. Don't think the bubbled changed much but our FC freaked out, warped us to the keepstar where fc told us to dock/tether despite our aggro timer and we got bombed again. FC then bridges himself home and rage quits the fleet while we have 2 other fleets engaged in a fight. Apple Pear then takes over the FC and we continuously reship and brawl til we come out on top. I think a hostile Titan accidentally warped in too at some point.


Op success. https://zkillboard.com/related/30004732/202101212200/

It was glorious -- and it also got very weird after the Minokawa died. Tidi wasn't bad (held around 25% most of the fight), but it seemed like the papi FCs were having issues with who to anchor on -- they all had some massive comet tails, constantly changing between the Eagle and Cerb fleets, while Vee's skating the Muninns at 120 below both of those and picking people off.

e:

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

Holy poo poo when I last had looked it was 23b goons to 9b papi

I take it we ditched eagles and went Muninns?

Nah, we had all three fleets on field at the time -- Harpies, Eagles, and Muninns, plus an INIT Cerb fleet. I think we just reshipped more efficiently and the tides turned once the HAW dreads evacced.

e2: It looks like we did better on logi kills too.

ullerrm fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jan 22, 2021

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Stereotype posted:

Nice! good guys win :toot:

Add another 3b for the good guys after some BRAVE guy rode his Cerberus into Valhalla while in his ratting clone :D

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

LiberalExtinction posted:

So I've undertaken the bad habit of listening to TiS and a couple other Eve "News" shows while I'm making lunch or whatever, and I completely understand and agree now that "content" is a word that should die off forever in relation to Eve.

Also “feed.”

The last time I saw this much local banter about feeding, it was about LadyScarlet.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Libluini posted:

Yeah, sometimes I log in to my PVP-alt to try to seek fights in Low Sec, and then sometimes Low Sec is so dead I can hang around in a badly fit cruiser for hours and nothing happens, besides my LP-count slowly creeping up. Certain areas of NullSec also tend to be dead, and W-Space is perfect for hiding as long as you don't start chatting in local.

The few times you faceplant into 14 drunk Russians and lose your Stratios are more funny than a threat

To be fair, that’s mostly because 200M (or wtfever a Stratios costs these days) is small enough that you don’t even think about having to replace it.

There’s a certain threshold for liquid isk (and I want to say that it’s around 10B) where any losses you take are replaceable in AFK time. If I am running a bit low on cash, I can sink 1B of that 10B into T2 production, spend 20 mins setting up industry jobs, and make 1.2B back about 24 hours later. The goal is that personal effort gets replaced with time; sure, I could grind in T4 filaments and make 200M in 2-3 hours, but I could just as easily just start building some Eagles to sell tomorrow, and then spend that time on the patio with beers/bowl/book.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

RFC2324 posted:

biggest fight in history is just gonna be mittens vs vily because everyone else had to work/spend time with the family that day

In one corner, the man for whom blueballs are simply second nature. In the other corner, a man who spent so much time being edgy online that he's become the personification of edging.

When they make a Wikipedia page for this battle, the only casualties listed will be sperm.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Globby callout!

Also, I feel bad for Brave. Like, legitimately feel bad. Dunk needs to be looking for an exit plan ASAP.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Malefitz posted:

I feel masochistic, does anyone have a link?

It's on Twitch at the moment, because they crashed their own Mumble.

TLDR:
* More blurf about the "population cap" myth, which CCP already debunked weeks ago.
* War is pivoting from "Goon extinction" to "focus on fun content" -- PGL is no longer convinced that Goons can be defeated. He calls that a "hypothetical." "Focus on Delve for probably the next month or so." "We're done with move ops."
* A lot of confusion about Catch and Immensea. On one hand, folks should deprioritize those regions in favor of PB/Querious/Delve or be in highsec. Keep jump clones and HACs in GE-, though, because "they're stabilizing." Industry folks should start up production lines in PB.
* BRAVE is losing their home, and as far as PGL is concerned, "that's a BRAVE issue."
* TEST warbonds did not raise enough money internally, and are now being made available to other Legacy groups.
* Globby's burst inties are really annoying them.

It was thoroughly depressing. PGL really needs to hire Elise to do their morale speeches. (Maybe he can also hire Elise to teach grammar to TEST question submitters.)

ullerrm fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jan 24, 2021

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Otacon posted:

Good TLDR, but you missed two points:
  • Ummmm
  • Uhhhhhh

Man, I'm not gonna ding anyone for being nervous speaking to thousands. It took me years of presenting to VPs at work to break the habit of filler words.

I do think he could have been better prepared -- have an outline, major talking points, some prepped FAQ answers. His answers re: Catch were slightly contradictory.

(Speaking of preparation, preparing to move back to Catch wouldn't be a bad idea either.)

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Forgot to mention, had an absolute blast last night in a weird rear end fleet. Klaxos reshipped into Harpies following an unfortunate Cormfleet chemo, and spent the next hour just buzzing us around the t5zi grid, while PAPI chased us in an OspreyNI gang.

It was just a profoundly weird series of microfights, one after another -- they'd warp in, we'd kill a logi or two, they'd warp out, have the dead logi reship, and warp back in. Rinse and repeat, plus the occasional inties trying to tackle our anchors or bombers trying to sneak one past defenders. Whenever they stood down for a few minutes, we'd shoot the Ansiblex until it was about half shields, and they'd promptly warp over to save it again, restarting the whole dance.

They tossed out ~1.1b in bits and pieces of OspNI fleet and random grid junk to kill about 600m in bits and pieces of a tiny Harpyfleet, before they finally said "gently caress it" and up-shipped to Muninns to chase us back into 1dq.

I went through 70+ charges on both links, which is the only way that I could gauge how long we were out there skirmishing. Probably one of the most fun extended fights I've ever been in.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

bro i intentionally eat funions just so i can rip huge farts on comms, i do it and no one reacted so many times i thought my mic was hosed, but other ppl i asked could totally hear it

they were insane, why tf are they being ignored?

listening to PGL and Vily's speech this weekend has made everyone acclimatized to hot air. try in a few days when our tolerance has reset

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Zesty posted:

Good or bad for them?

I mean, props to them, they got them out. Morale improved. But I suspect that once the endorphin rush dies down, it's going to be a mixed bag. On one hand, they got about a third of their titans out. On the other hand, they only got 1/3rd of the bottom group out, and at a fairly high price.

PAPI claims to have over a thousand dreads cached; assuming that wasn't a boast, they can blow half of that cache on replacing tonight's losses. So, at best, they can only do a stunt like this one more time before they're cashed out. (And it'll take a few days before they can really do it again. They need to move that cache up to T5. Plus, PAPI policy is to only replace the hull/rigs, so the ~500 capitals that died today will mean their players forking out for replacing mods/fuel/implants, etc. and get those moved up as well.)

It'll take months to replenish that dread cache -- capitals take a long time to build, and doing so means burning down their mineral reserves, which are an extremely precious resource at the moment given CCP's current Starvation design.

But, all that aside, looking forward to the next N months: What does having those titans enable that wasn't possible before? They still have another 200ish titans trapped in M2, which means their supercap fleet is still not at full strength; until it is, they are going to be avoiding anything that could lead to a supercap slugfest (hitting keepstars, etc). In many ways, having a massive dread ball was a far more useful tool for making progress in Delve -- HAW dreads for fighting HAC fleets, SR dreads for killing FAX hackers, etc. -- than a handful of titans. So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Oddly enough, it also looks like the majority of the titans that escaped were FRT, which is a weird thing; if anything, future breakouts would benefit from having more AUTZ pilots in M2, not fewer.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

A dumb question about abyssal filaments. I've seen a few guides on soloing T2 abyssals; some of them spend one filament to get into the site in a cruiser, while some use three filaments and then solo them in a AF. The AF version seems much faster, but is there additional loot in the three-filament version to justify the higher cost of entry, or is it the same loot as running the single-filament one in a bigger ship?

Admittedly, T2 filaments are something like 150K at Jita, so the difference between 150K and 450K to enter is minimal, but I'm curious if there's a difference in loot table to compensate for it.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Baculus posted:

If you run frigate sites you do get much more loot than running cruiser sites of the equivalent level. However cruiser sites scale much better for solo pilots - a cheap-ish Gila can easily run T4s which is double the frigate T2 loot and about the same as frigate T3 (which is really when you need to multibox frigate sites).

Good to know. TBH I'm just doing this as something chill when I'm not doing industry, and I've already fed a couple of cheap T1 cruisers to OM, so I'll wait until I know it better before I start throwing Gilas at it.

(OM has absurdly long range on those blasters; kiting it doesn't seem to be reasonable. Can you get under its tracking in a cruiser?)

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Baculus posted:

Yes but once you start doing T5s it webs you.

Okay, that makes sense. When I've died to the low-tier OM in the past, I was orbiting it at 50km-ish while I took down the small neuting rats first, but the distance wasn't really doing much to mitigate damage. (That's some seriously long range blasters!) By the time I had the small rats down and started DPSing the OM, I was already at half shields, and ended up popping when it was in hull.

For T5, is the tactic just "take as much DPS/tank as possible and brawl the fucker down ASAP, then deal with the small poo poo later?"

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Baculus posted:

not that anyone should care but it's 1v1 battlecruiser weekend.

I am going to lose not less than 600m in battlecruisers.

It's a really unpleasant meta and I wouldn't suggest it unless you're super bored. Nearly everyone is bringing massively overtanked ships and self-boosting, and if they can't authoritatively kill you in the first 5 minutes, they're just going to do their best to facetank you until the timer runs out and you both die.

I'm currently standing at one win and a bunch of draws, and that single win was by bringing a neuting myrmidon and just capping them the gently caress out. And even that was a stupidly close thing:



(And then, of course, I got back only to have a stealth bomber waiting for me on the exit :P)

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

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SnoochtotheNooch posted:

Alright this is probably a stupid question but what’s the strat of highsec trading between jita and amar? Should I be trying to buy in jita for a more competitive buy order price, then sell in amar where supply is less?

Or is this an obvious “well it depends” type of stupid question?

The answer is probably "don't bother." When they created the Pochven region, it included Niarja, so it severed the old fast subcap route between Amarr and Jita. Now, there's only two ways to get between the two in a large hauler:

* Take an extremely long gate-to-gate highsec route (45 jumps through 8 regions, GARPA says it'll take 1h40min in a freighter if you're actively piloting)
* Take 3 jumps in a JF, burning ~43M isk worth of isotopes each way

So, you have a choice between "get there fast but spend so much money doing so that it obliterates your profit margin" and "get there so slowly that you have miniscule volume." It really makes more sense to build locally now.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

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Ynglaur posted:

What do the various shipping services charge these days? Pubbies used to haul in high sec for trivial amounts.

They all charge based on collateral. If you've got lots of low-value high-margin goods (collateral <1.5B), they want 45-50M. If you want to ship anything valuable, it starts getting expensive fast.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

RFC2324 posted:

what happened to the titan?

accepted a hostile fleet warp

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

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zegermans posted:

Looks like the war is going bad again

It's about as bad as it's been for the last... nine months?

We lost the M2- ihub on Sunday. That was the big PAPI objective; if we had continued to hold it, we would have been able to put cyno jammers in M2, which would have made the Titan hellcamp more effective.

However, losing the M2 ihub doesn't actually change the state of the war. TEST owned it and had cyno jammers in place, when Vily chose to welp a hundred titans. When the hellcamp began, we took the ihub, but never got jammers down. So, TEST taking it back doesn't change the hellcamp situation, for at least another month; even if they hold it for that month and put down cyno jammers, okay, we're back to December 2020.

So. Sunday was a bit of morale boost of them, and god knows they need it. But in terms of the war's progress, it's pretty much same as December, but now with less confidence on the PAPI side. (Vily's gone on record in some recent podcasts that he does not expect to dislodge us from 1DQ.)

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

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Actually, that's worth talking about.

So, let's assume that Vily is right (haha) and that Goons can hold 1DQ indefinitely, barring some monumental drop in our finances or FC availability. In that case, what is TEST's desired end-game, then?

PAPI can only effectively contest Delve while they've got a numbers advantage... but only TEST and BRAVE have stated any interest in staying here long-term. PH/NC/FRT still consider this war to be a temporary deployment (for however long "temporary" means after nine months). If any of those groups depart for any length of time, especially in EUTZ, the remaining folks are instantly outnumbered and living next to an angry hive.

PH/NC are pretty much just here for the fights, but TEST/BRAVE have effectively burned the ships. If they start heading back to their former home, they know we're going to immediately come after them without even waiting to rebuild Delve first. If they instead say "good enough" and try to settle PB/Querious/Southern Delve? Well, they're next door to some fuckin furious neighbors that can outnumber them in EUTZ, and I'm not sure what they can do about it short of Getting The Gang Back Together.

I'm just legit curious why Vily would choose to move the goalposts, because it seems to me that any outcome where Goons hold 1DQ against the whole of PAPI eventually leads to rough times for TEST. Hell, even if you assume that Vily is wrong and 1DQ falls, it's not like Goons are going to disappear.

ullerrm fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Feb 1, 2021

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Dalael posted:

A wize-man once said, no one can tell from your killmail if a module is online or not. :ssh:

I get instantly primaried whenever I fly a Scimitar, so my modules rarely get activated for more than a few minutes anyways. :P

Speaking of which, our SRP folks are absurdly fast. During Sunday's brawl, I'd literally get paid before my pod had finished dying in tidi, so it was "buy new ship before I've even gotten back to station" levels of efficient meatgrinding. Ships really are ammo.

Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr posted:

I mean what else is there to do eve aside from delve at the moment? What reason do NC./PL have to leave? Unless they welp their entire super fleet I think realistically they stay until we lose our keepstars at a minimum

This is partly true, but also a really succinct condemnation of CCP's stewardship of nullsec economics :P

I say "partly" because I suspect 1DQ is a special case due to both 1) being our HQ with multiple keepstars on the same grid, and 2) the legacy positioning for its iHub making it extraordinarily hard to attack. That grid is a guaranteed meatgrinder unlike nearly anything else in Eve.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

SHISHKABOB posted:

I'm looking at the Capital Ship Construction skill and is it just me, or does it not do anything? All it says is "Skill required for the manufacturing of standard and advanced capital ships". There's no "required for" and it doesn't seem like getting more than one level in it provides any benefit.

Different capital ships require different levels in the skill. e.g. You only need lv1 to build capship components, but you need lv3 to start build jobs for dreads, and lv5 for titans.

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ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Otacon posted:

The only thing driving AT ship pricing is rarity. Some are a LOT more useful in combat than others, but even if a literal lump of poo poo in this game was limited and rare, it'd still sell for a buttload of isk.

This. The pirate corvettes go for 1B+, and they’re not even that rare — CCP used to give them away at events. (And only two of them are useful.) I have an old faction Iteron IV in my collection that goes for 20B+.

e: Hell, the Postcard From Poitot is now 25M, and I used to stick that in every ship I piloted.

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