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dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Querns, can you include MiniTru in the OP?, please?

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dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Maneck posted:

No. They got the boot after protesting a SRP denial on a Falcon.

Protesting a denied SRP claim as a joke. There was a whole lot of Other poo poo that led up to HoleSquad dying - that was just the first event in the chain.

E: Let's please not rehash the entire loving thing, the tl;dr is a joke protest spiraled wildly out of control and everything kept getting stupider.

dragonshardz fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Sep 13, 2018

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

CainFortea posted:

Backpedaling like normal. Sigh.

It's backpedaling to say the same thing I'd been saying the last time the topic came up?

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

Please remember this next time because it always draws out the low key shittiest poster in this thread, CainFortea, to make even more and even worse posts than usual

:agreed:

Dalael posted:

If it started with a Falcon being denied, then its about a falcon being denied.
Any further denial of this claim will be seen as further proof that the falcon denial started it all.

You really don't get it, do you? Posting while high is, as madcows demonstrated, both funny and liable to result in a bunch of clowncar idiots getting blacklisted.

Maneck posted:

I too aspire to have a joke go so badly that I get purged.

Dude, your knowledge of that poo poo is so second-hand it's more seam than cloth.

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

you are a human trash can. not in the obvious sense in that garbage is smelly and gross or whatever; You are a receptacle for phrases and ideas, which then rot in your idiot brain, and every time you open your lid by pressing that post button, the familiar smell of those ideas, now decomposed, comes oozing out. Every time you unironically type "boydozer" into the post field your familiar stench of rotting banana peels and 3 year old catchphrases follows.

And, let me preempt your next barf onto the screen.

*clears throat*

"nice meltdown"

:perfect:

Rhymenoserous posted:

Like if I had the option to team up with PL to kill Horde or team up with Horde to kill PL, it would be a rather easy decision.

Option C, team up with TEST to kill them both.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

"Our culture couldn't possibly have been a contributing factor to PL's demise, no, it is CCP's fault!"

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

CainFortea posted:

Lets try a thought exercise.

If PL can't adjust to the meta of "you actually have to be in your space to make money off of it", perhaps you can name a group that was able to adjust to this meta and thus is in a better position than PL?

Just, you know, name someone that comes to mind... :allears:

CainFortea posted:

I was more talking about alliance funding. And I wasn't saying it wasn't a hard pill to swallow. I was just giving poo poo to dragonshartz.

CainFortea posted:

Dragonsharts is trying to say I'm claiming our culture had nothing to do with it, which was stupid thing I never said, and was giving him poo poo for it.

I was making fun of PL's culture and mindset, idiot. I know context is hard but a snarky comment directly below Landsnechkt blaming CCP for PL's failure to adapt should be a dead giveaway.

Also 2004 called and wants its "replace a consonant" gimmick back.

dragonshardz fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Sep 15, 2018

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

CainFortea posted:

You earned that moniker less than a year ago and I didn't even coin it. lol

Why the gently caress do you need everything spelled out to you? Idiots who have nothing inventive to say have mangled my username long before you came along and glommed onto the old, stale idea.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Paramemetic posted:

Our propaganda machine is in danger of becoming bored because the North is doing all the work for us.

Like here I was all ready to spin losses and so on but we just keep on winning and at this point pretty much the only propaganda to be written is "uh yeah we are ... we're still just winning all the time."

There's only so much "rah rah, we're winning and turbodunking constantly" propaganda we can make before it becomes hubris.

Rutibex posted:

Yay today is new ship day! Today I finally finished the training I needed to fly a Black Ops Battleship :ohdear: I squirreled a Sin away for this day that I managed to pick up cheap on the second hand market. I have got to say its quite a cool ship. I have honestly wanted to fly one of these for forever, but it never seemed practical. The hull is basically just a Dominix (slightly different in a few ways, but not much). It can fit a cloaking device and has bonuses to that, but I'm a bit disappointed it can't fit a Covert Ops cloak. Its the name of the ship for crying out loud! But more importantly it has a Jump Drive! I can already fly a carrier with a jump drive, but this little fella gives it to me in a battleship package. I can also carry this ship around in a carrier and have two jump drives at my disposal I suppose? It can also fit a "covert jump portal generator" which is like a Titan bridge, but I don't have the skills for that just yet.

I decided to fit it basically just like a Dominix. I went with a double shield and armor tank, because its feels a bit squishy after sitting in my Super Carrier. I didn't go for blaster or railgun, I thought energy neutralizers would do a better job (this is how I do my Dominix as well). For drones I am using Geckos and Ogre IIs. They are expensive, but I mean the ship is worth a billion anyway so why not live a little? Is this a good fit for a Black Ops? I don't have much in the way of reference, most sites don't give much advice for fittings. I think the ships are very situational.


Honestly not a terrible fit if you drop the shield extender and invuln for a web and an omnidirectional tracking...thing for drones.

E: Also, you might want to swap the core probe launcher and a neut for a smartbomb. You're not going to get much if any use from the core probe launcher; you'd do better to have an alt in a dedicated scanning ship.

dragonshardz fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Sep 16, 2018

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

actually it is very likely that the deal does exactly this

and this is actually the only way to do it since you can't forcibly capture upwell structures, you can either explode them or convince the owner to give them to you (this is what is happening here)


There really does need to be a way to forcibly take Upwell poo poo if you don't want to explode it.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Dalael posted:

Please spare us your next session of "I've been banned unfairly" posts by reporting this to :ccp: immediately.


When has globby ever done that instead of abusing the exploit and getting banned?

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

i don't know where this started but it is so dumb

Blame Naz al-Ghul, shitposter extraordinaire of MiniTru.

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

was that the thing where they had the huge warehouse room with the sad little ball pit in the center

No, that was DashCon, the ~~tumblr convention~~

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Boatswain posted:

Who the gently caress is Xenuria? He keeps posting awful threads in the Helldump (Helldump #1) but I never understand what he is talking about.

An actual autist with an autist superiority complex and endless excuses for why he has ~~multiple postgrad degrees~~ but won't move anywhere that has a better job market so he doesn't have to keep working at the five-and-dime for the rest of his life.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Firos posted:

Lol I posted that as a joke and welp. Now I've got to get all this egg off my face.

That's, uhhh...that's not egg.

Hexel posted:

how did PLNC get so bad at titan warfare and why are gewns so good?

All the PL nerds who were ~~elite~~ have burned out and stopped loving caring.

Addamere posted:

those titans were already replaced

This, but unironically.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Nyn posted:

Let me know when you have something worth reading.

You make my posting look good.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Truga posted:

What the gently caress did you just loving say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Amarr Navy, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Delve, and I have over 300 titan kills. I am trained in covops warfare and I'm the top bomber in the entire nullsec. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the gently caress out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this galaxy, mark my loving words. You think you can get away with saying that poo poo to me over jabber? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across nullsec and your clones are being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're loving dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the band of developers and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable rear end off the face of the galaxy, you little poo poo. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your loving tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will poo poo fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're loving dead, kiddo.

:perfect:

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

The Third Man posted:

Is there a wormhole squad? I haven't played since Holesquad dissolved and I guess I hate myself because I'm starting to feel the itch to play this dumb game again.

Apparently "The Whalers" is a wormhole squad in the sense that they have a wormhole and do hotdrops or something out of it.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Kitfox88 posted:

drag bubbles are fuckin' dumb poo poo

Much like your posting.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Addamere posted:

Drag bubbles have useful purpose

Unlike posting on a dead gay comedy forum, yes.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

orange juche posted:

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. AFK Jump freighters on fire off the shoulder of Uedama. I watched polarized blasters glitter in the dark near the Niarja Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

:perfect:

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Prop Wash posted:

The SIG is also full of chill, knowledgeable people so it's a nice place to hang out. It is not hole squid.

Hole Squid was also full of chill, knowledgeable people up until it got shuttered, so...

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

brakanjan posted:

:question: Which department would I need to contact, in order to find out information, on how to facilitate the destruction of a wormhole corp via a goon attack?

I am a vactioned member :zombie: that has recently joined a boring wormhole corp. I thought it would be fun, unfortunately I realise that at my core I am a kamikaze, frigate pilot, that likes to tackle things.

I recall there being a goon structure in place for events like this. I cannot remember where exactly. I remember there being a goon specific forum with this information, but I could be wrong.

GSF is not your personal army and the one group in the coalition that ever really did WH evictions for strategic/tactical reasons ceased to do them shortly after Citadels became a thing. They're also dead because of a shitpost taken both too far and too seriously.

Unless it's a WH corp actively associated with a group we want to poo poo on, and making GBS threads on it meets current strategic needs, you're better off trying to hire Lazerhawks or something.

E: Also if you want to be a dumb kamikaze tackle pilot, rejoin GSF or something. We can always make use of suicide tackle.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Good. gently caress Hard Knocks.

I've both fought them and flown with them a couple times in the past. They're a pile of entitled, lazy fat-cat elite PvP shitstains whose mere existence is one of the major causes of C5+ wormhole space becoming a loving wasteland of sexless krab renters and fuckheads who never fight without complete, overwhelming advantage.

It's about time someone shits in their Cheerios, and I couldn't be happier it's the biggest bully in the playground doing it. I only regret that I may not be able to put my name on the killmails.

gently caress Hard Knocks and their rentier sensibilities. gently caress their allies and pets. Burn them all.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

dragonshardz posted:

Good. gently caress Hard Knocks.

I've both fought them and flown with them a couple times in the past. They're a pile of entitled, lazy fat-cat elite PvP shitstains whose mere existence is one of the major causes of C5+ wormhole space becoming a loving wasteland of sexless krab renters and fuckheads who never fight without complete, overwhelming advantage.

It's about time someone shits in their Cheerios, and I couldn't be happier it's the biggest bully in the playground doing it. I only regret that I may not be able to put my name on the killmails.

gently caress Hard Knocks and their rentier sensibilities. gently caress their allies and pets. Burn them all.

Update: Got a ride in. poo poo kicks off basically right as I get home.

:toot:

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


My god.

I need that in physical form, STAT. Maybe replace the NROL-39 with WHOLE SKWID

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

nrol-39 stands for national reconnaissance office-launch 39 and its a patch for a satellite that launched in 2013 (the snowden year)


Yeah I figured that out from reverse-searching the image. I still want an edited one that replaces NROL-39 with WHOLE SKWID because the motto is awesome.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


That dude is making one key mistake in his argument.

He's assuming we're like PL and deploy to poo poo on people for no reason. We're happy to sit in Delve and crunch rocks unless there's someone who needs to get slapped in the face for past crimes.


Krataar posted:

Is there anytime frame on when wardecs will no longer be literally rear end, and how likely is my stuff still in Deklein?

They've already been changed so you need a permanent structure in space. Also fairly likely, unless it was in one of the stations GotG ceded to us, in which case it's been teleported to a station in lowsec.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Pandemic Horde is what Goons used to be when they first fought the evil empire aka BoB, carefree and all about having fun. Now goons have turned into the evil empire aka BoB aka Imperium, a bunch of tryhards. They even have their own pets called TEST.

lol what is it with pubbies insisting that alliances within our coalition must be pets and the coalitions we're friendly with must also be pets

do they not understand things like mutually beneficial self-interest?

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Xolve posted:

Probably not, but they *do* know it makes people mad post about it on forums.

If you think that was madposting, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Hexel posted:

shitheap challenge was a comedy goldmine during the bookstarter war; birthplace of such great conspiracies like the bee-sticker backpack bandit

AKA Marlona Sky, if I'm not mistaken.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Yeah, they're way too big compared to other ships. CCP was talking about scaling up other capitals to match, but nothing ever came of it.

They were going to and then our enemies in the Casino War used the massive loving hitspheres of FAXes to bump people undocking from the station far beyond docking range before they loaded in.

They still haven't figured out how to make that use case not a giant problem if they upscale supercarriers.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Xolve posted:

To be fair, Kugu only hosed up their forums once.

CCP is on what, the 4th iteration of 'what the gently caress is this poo poo' for forum re-designs?

CCP's new forums are Discourse.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

necrotic posted:

left eve for irc

much like whole squad left eve for discord

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Norfolks Given posted:

It was implied that since I lived under a previous goon dictator i’m trying to ‘change’ goon culture,any further discussion of which usually leads down the rabbit hole of nugoon/trugoon arguments which have been flogged to death. Exchanging opinions on the gam’s changed dynamic is not the same as going on a ideological crusade to save goondom from the tyranny of cheap titans and massive space wealth.

I accept all things evolve, i’m simply trying to understand where I best fit in to the new meta - be it in GSF, init, test or PL.

Jesus gently caress, dude, just apply and dip your toe in. If you hate it, nobody is going to throw you in the memory hole for quietly slipping away somewhere else.

Goa Tse-tung posted:

you post like your main was in the Penny Arcade corp

Hey. I resemble that remark.

Norfolks Given posted:

i’m more wary of the ‘cultural revolution’ getting me kicked for being a salt mining douche

Unless you're an utterly irredeemable toxic shithead who delights in unironically spewing racist, sexist, or insert-ist remarks constantly, you'll be fine.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

oneman4193 posted:

Banned from goonwaffe again, you would think they would give me a reason cause it couldn't be for calling out karma fleets director.

:allears:

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

ZombieLenin posted:

Finally made it to Delve. Does someone know a source of good fits for a Thanatos--specifically if I am going to use it for killing rats? I am struggling with the notion of shooting at NPCs with no active tank on any ship, and all the fits on the goonfleet forums appear to be fleet doctrine fits.

I guess I can play around with PYFA and or the fitting tool, but I am terrible at fits and all of my old fits are 6+ years old and terribly out of date.

Honestly, you can carrier rat just fine in a doctrine fitting.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


:same:, tbh

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

It seems like every day I play this game I run into Goonswarm members autistically screeching about how they are the best at the game, how everyone else sucks, etc. I could understand cockiness if the matchups in warfare were even or almost even in terms of power, fleet numbers, or other comparable statistics. Being able to win a fight would be a reflection of the skill of the fleet commanders and the people playing the game. This could not be further from the case though. Through actions, both legal and illegal, Goonswarm has been able to seize control of the game.

1) They have set up a botting empire. While I do realize that not every single Goonswarm member is a botter, it would be foolish to say that they do not welcome botters in with open arms. Of course, when it becomes obvious that a corp is populated by botters Goonswarm takes action (think TNT the other day). By harnessing the power of bots they have built their alliance to the point it is currently at (after all who can compete versus hundreds of rorquals mining 23 hours a day in terms of sheer economic output).

2) They have taken advantage of CSM privileges to push their agenda forward. While not technically against the rules, this is against the spirit of the game. Goonswarm and company account for around half of the members of the annual CSM group. As a member of this group they receive inside information about the future of the game that allows them to better position themselves and their alliance for future success.

3) Some members of Goonswarm use their positions as moderators on this subreddit to instantly silence any criticism of their alliance. Olmeca was not lying when he said that moderator abuse on behalf of Goonswarm is an issue. I have had countless posts be deleted with zero explanation for the mods. Coincidentally these posts all highlighted the issues with the rampant botting in Goonswarm among other things. In fact I'd be willing to bet 20 billion ISK that this post is pulled down within 30 minutes of posting.

4) They made way too big of an alliance. In almost any fight against Goonswarm you are going to be severely outnumbered. This is because they alone are an alliance with 35,000 members (according to DOTLAN). Out of the top 11 alliances by population, 6 are allied with Goonswarm. By adding up the numbers on DOTLAN you can see that between 2/3 to 3/4 of the Sov controlling alliance population belongs to Goonswarm. While this does include alts, you would be a fool to believe that anybody has the numbers to contend.

TLDR: Goon leadership supports botting, CSM privileges are abused by Goonswarm members, mods of this subreddit who are also in Goonswarm defend their practices, and they outnumber pretty much everyone else in the game combined in null. Not much to brag about now, is it?

Did olmeca somehow manage to get unbanned from r/eve?

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

ded posted:

Ah found an actual article about that.

Can an alpha clone jump a dread?

Nope.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

evilweasel posted:

If you don’t drop to npc you still have role stasis I thought. Dropping to npc eliminates it.

This is correct, which is why you "Prepare to Quit Corp" and wait 24h.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

You're almost certainly baiting but it does bring up an interesting point. The build time on all the components for a palpatine is massive. You couldn't do it with one person -- you'd have to get dozens, maybe hundreds of industrialists in on the action, and you'd have to hand each one hundreds of billions worth of poo poo. How do you prevent theft?

Operate under the "can you punch them in the groin" theory of trust. If you can punch them in the groin, you can trust them.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Rutibex posted:

Proteus are the best. I can't stop collecting them. I've got over 2 dozen now and I don't even really do anything with them except fly around wormholes looking at stuff.

Change that to shooting at stuff, and enjoy the gank prote life

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dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

Micromancer posted:

New players starting to carrier rat want the thanatos for the increased fighter bay size. Also, don't poo poo fit your rigs, max speed does nothing when you aren't doing max damage.

Lastly the diminished return on the 5th anything rarely justifies the cost. Hop in 7g comms on mumble we can get you sorted.

Just rat in the capswarm standard fit. EZPZ, and won't die as soon as something breathes on it.

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