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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JViRj2icPdg

The second worst event that happens every four years to Brazilians is here! Three years after Dilma Roussef was impeached in a parliamentary coup and replaced by an empty suit that's widely reviled and his congress of horrible people who made an effort to RAPE everyone in the country by slashing labor rights and selling most of the state companies while the economy is still in shambles due to reliance on commodities, the country of the Future is ready to elect whoever will have the job to steer the ship into the abyss! This is also the election where the far right is having a big resurgence, thanks to mass media conglomerates beating and denouncing the poo poo out of the PT governments while being mostly silent during the Temer administration while social media cranks have repeatedly managed to convince people that the f*ggots and commies will turn the country over to Venezuela!

Candidates



Luis Inácio Lula da Silva (PT)

Former president during 2002-2008, he's the favorite to win as he's beloved by every Brazilian that isn't a rich or middle class fascist. Unfortunately he's under arrest after a suspiciously lightning fast judgment related to the Car Wash operation that wanted to get his rear end in jail before he runs (as politicians that have been convicted of crimes are forbidden for running for candidate in any position). Now the Supreme Court is still deliberating whether he gets to run or not. The best scenario candidate as even though he had to rely on some real sketchy people to run his presidency.




Fernando Haddad (PT)

The former Mayor of São Paulo, he's now the presidential Candidate after Lula's candidacy was blocked by the supreme court. The fact that he lost to neoliberal worm João Doria on the first round of the 2016 mayoral election might be negated by the fact that Lula's support holds immense sway around the country but whether the PT will manage to get a lead is unknown...



Jair Bolsonaro (PSL)

The favorite to win unless the Supreme Court actually manages to let Lula run. The far right troglodyte who's backed by a radicalized population who either looks fondly to the military junta times even though at the economic crisis of the 80s when they left power was far worse than the current one, people who think that everyone owning an assault rifle will solve the insane spike in violence of the last decades and other psychopaths. He also has no idea how to fix the economy and has no plan of doing so but is delegating it to the members of his cabinet.



Cabo Daciolo (PATRIOTA)

After the one of the tiny parties that live on cronyism and selling votes decided to rebrand into a far right populist party but failed to get Bolsonaro to run for them they had to settle for this guy. A former firefighter union leader that was elected by the left-wing PSOL party as a congressman but was kicked out for being a dominionist religious nut, he managed to become the true comic relief of the presidential candidates by denouncing Ciro Gomes as being part of the Union of Soviet South American Republics, ranting about how the Illuminati wants to kill him and claiming that 400 billion people avoid taxes in the country.



Geraldo Alckmin (PSDB)

The Brazilian Jeb! A man who managed to lose in the 2006 election second round with less votes for him than in the first round. Called the "Chayote Popsicle" for being a completely bland and unlikable empty suit, he is managing to poll at single digits despite being from what was the biggest opposition party during the PT years.



Marina Silva (REDE)

Third Place Candidate for the last two elections and a former PT Minister of Environment, Marina is one of the odd ducks as due to her being an evangelical christian and a center-left environmentalist at the same time means she has a progressive stand on EVERY ISSUE BUT Abortion and Gay Marriage (although she she says that she will hold a plebiscite on both of these issues).



Ciro Gomes (PDT)

A man that I'm personally really ambivalent with. Ciro Gomes and his family ruled my state of Ceará as their personal oligarchic fiefdom for the last 30 years, although his skills as an administrator and governor managed to develop what was once one of the poorest states with the worst conditions of living into an admittedly much better place, being regarded as one of the best governors of the entire country. His biggest problem however, is his political ambivalence as a "progressive leftist", as he decided to court the "centrão", the cronyist center parties that follow whoever promises the most and his ambition to be president more than once had him fight with the PT as he has no intention to serve as Lula's second.



Guilherme Boulos (PSOL)

Serving this election as "the Far Left cool guy who will only get 3% of polling who I voted for during the first round", he's the leader of the "Homeless Worker's Movement" and one of the rising stars of socio-political activism of this decade, he has repeatedly denounced some of the most immoral candidates of the campaign and while an opponent of Lula still is one of the biggest voices supporting him to participate in the elections. Also notable for having Sonia Guajajara, another social activist for the rights of the native peoples as the first indigenous person to be on a presidential campaign as his vice!

https://twitter.com/meirelles/status/1032022203766919169

Henrique Meirelles (MDB)

Former President of the Central Bank during the Lula administration that now bemoans him and his party all the time. A dipshit free market neoliberal who has to contend with the fact that he's running for Temer's party and therefore has the 5% approval president hanging like a dead albatross on his neck and that the pension reform that he has as one of his priorities is widely reviled.

Álvaro Dias (Podemos)

Who gives a poo poo about this guy? Another dipshit centrist advocating for ethics and political reform and other center-populist babble. Not even bothering posting a picture of him.



João Goulart Filho (PPL)

Son of the last president before the 1964 junta. That's all that's interesting about him.



José Maria Eymael (PSDC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvOcwcEiL6g



Vera Lúcia (PSTU)

The farthest Left candidate in the running, Vera Lúcia is a shoemaker and union leader from the extremely tiny trotskyist syndicalis party PSTU. Substituting party founder Zé Maria that ran for the party's last four elections, this infusion of new blood may finally be able to get the party to reach 1% of polling.

Brazilian Political Structure

Perhaps one of the reasons for the incredibly corrupt and crisis-prone nature of the country is the fact that Brazil is a "Coalition Presidency", a frankensteinish political system that has a semi-strong executive power that has several prerogatives but far less than in other countries with a presidential system like the rest of the American continent and two houses of congress that while having no Prime Minister still has most of the powers that a congress has in parliamentary countries like most of Europe. This system, created by the 1988 constitution that was likely expecting the country to adopt the parliamentarian regime in a 1993 failed plebiscite and whose members were congressmen that deeply resented the strong centralizing power of the President during the dictatorship that preceded that constitution, resulted in a political structure where the President while voted by the public in an election and has several executive powers, is absolutely dependent on a majority in Congress to govern, something which quickly brought upon strong cronyism and corruption, as the variety of parties makes that majority impossible unless a "big tent" coalition is formed, and of course these parties always have a price...

Plutonis has issued a correction as of 18:28 on Sep 1, 2018

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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

mila kunis posted:

even if lula cant run cant he just run the country through a proxy candidate ?

I guess it's going to be Haddad (Former mayor of São Paulo) and being Lula's proxy still brings a lot of votes but that guy is honestly really not well known to most of the country. Also Alckmin is trying to court the reactionary vote by having a far right congresswoman who hailed Lula's bus being attacked by armed psychopaths on her state as a good hting.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ8dmJcQgUw

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

etalian posted:

I like how every election how their own Jeb!

The mexican election had a similar rich boring centrist character that got almost no votes with a low energy campaign

The concept of Jeb! has international appeal

There's honestly THREE of them in this election. It's just that Álvaro Dias and Henrique Meireles are extremely boring technocrats and I don't know how to make a funny intro for them.

Fuligin posted:

could you do a post on lava jato (i probably hosed that up lol)? All my coverage has been through the extremely impartial and ideology-free weekly The Economist and i could probably use a local's perspective

Or even just a rougb rundown of the major parties and the brazilian structure of gov. I am very interested!

I'll add stuff on the parties in the OP later tonight and try to explain the insane "coalition presidentialism" system we have that combines the worse of parliamentarism and presidentialism.

https://www.ocafezinho.com/2016/05/01/the-lords-of-the-law-foundations-and-functions-of-operation-car-wash/

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Updated the OP with left-wing/center-left candidates Ciro, Marina and Boulos

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

That's Daciolo, fellow r/Kaiserreich browser

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Corek posted:

bolsonaro has quite the party loyalty

Ciro also changed parties 8 times. That's incredibly common here. Also I'm done with the candidates!!! Everyone is there!!!

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

So I went to a theater show today and there was a rally of a christard pastor with like several thousand people around and he said that congress wants to legalize polygamy and incest and make schoolkids learn gender stuff and african religions (which those retards think its witchcraft) and that he needed their help to be reelected and he's definitely getting elected lol.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Yeah lol you know when people were worried about the US fundies rising to power due to their support of Bush in the 00s? Here those fuckers have way more influence in politics than that.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Bolsonaro considered inviting the current pretender to the throne as his vice candidate lol

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Kurnugia posted:

do workers syndicates like Mondragon and the like exist in Brazil? obviously not on the same level since they're the largest there is, but can they exist on a legalistic level?

Lula started his career with the CUT syndicate in the late 70s and 80s which while still is the largest one in the country it got extremely weakened during the last few years.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Kurnugia posted:

I was referring specifically to business' owned by workers with 'syndicalism', or does the CUT do both trade union work and seek to accumulate capital? Also, any particular reason for the weakening you can think of beyond the usual corporate capitalist poo poo the temer government has been up to?

Oh nope there aren't strong cooperatives here. And I'd say that CUT's accommodation with PT during the PT years did influence a bit on its weakening since it 'relaxed' on confronting the big business which led to splinter trade unions taking more people, but now Temer is slashing the labor rights we've had since the loving Vargas era with a chainsaw so let's see how that ends.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Crowsbeak posted:

If Lula somehow was allowed to run and won, what would he likely do?


(I know that it's more likely he won't be and Bolsonario reigns over as the last president of Brazil)

What I'd like: He'd tell the elite sectors and their insanely corrupt cronies in the congress to eat poo poo and not accommodate and appease them like the last few years.

What'll happen: He might undo some of the damage that the Temer administration wreaked, but would be unlikely to do much since the congress houses will still be full of corrupt cronies.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Actually never mind the supreme court straight up said that Lula isn't running lol. Ha ha.

e: Edited OP to include Haddad

Plutonis has issued a correction as of 18:28 on Sep 1, 2018

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I'm incredibly shook about that right now. Can't even sleep. To give you a magnitude it's as if the Buckingham and the British museum we're destroyed by the same catastrophe. This is because the Temer government slashed it's annual budget from 370k (which was already low) to a measly 50k

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/leuavila/status/1036405174175186944 the thread gives you an idea of what was lost here

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

On other news Bolsonaro straight up said this sunday that he's going to shoot people from the Worker's Party during a rally and they immediately put a motion to cancel his candidacy due to incitement to violence.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Someone at a rally wounded Bolsonaro with a knife

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Metal Cat posted:

I wonder if the unstable, abject retard who stabbed him is happy that he just guaranteed Bolsonaro the election. And you can bet your rear end that this is going to be used as a justification for absolutely anything from now on.

I give a 50% chance of it being a false flag.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Reagan won because of Hinckley!

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Haddad is already being served with court notices

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011


Awesome Interactions

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

English version of the article https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/German-Holocaust-Controversy-Reveals-Brazils-Growing-Alt-Right-20180917-0012.html

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

They adopted the victim complex too since after the stabbing attack they now complain about left violence while ignoring, let's say, the several right violence acts and incitement that preceded it.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

He's on the cover of the latest Economist, we're done.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Brazil is the United States if the Confederacy won.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

joepinetree posted:

All my PSDB "friends" are talking themselves into Bolsonaro. My favorite reasons why:

- If the economy improves it will be hard to remove the left from power again
- Alternating party in charge is good for democracy (though don't ask who they are voting for governor in Sao Paulo)

Accelerationism ftw

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

is Haddad making a communist party member his running mate so if they try to impeach him theyll have to deal with an even more radical prez? lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuela_d%27%C3%81vila

That's why Bolsonaro made a loving psychopath general his running mate as well lol

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

PCdoB isn't that "fringe" a party anyway. It's pretty much more like the modern eurocommunist parties.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

dont know any portuguese but guessing off spanish its probably "and"

No, he's right, É with the accent mark mean is. Basically the purpose is to latch Haddad at Lula's image as much as possible.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

It's been refreshing to see opposition against him flare up and get momentum. I went to an Alceu Valença show this saturday and there was a big rear end protest after where they changed Lula Livre and Ele (Bolsonaro) Não

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Big rear end protests against the guy this saturday, tiny ones in favor of him this sunday. Sad!

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Guy wearing a PT shirt got murdered while going to vote. God drat the next years are gonna be epic.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

cool dance moves posted:

*goes to play in russia when it's not a major tournament*
*gets pelted with bananas*

*Rio Grande do Sul

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah this is incredibly dire. this is worse than trump

Trump is just a cynical business toad with no real ideology and whose bigotry only extends to Mexicans. Bolsonaro is the real deal of the modern far right.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

This album came out in 1989 but it's album cover seems pretty everygreen



We dont even have cool punk bands now.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Then again João Gordo is still a homie

https://mobile.twitter.com/joao_gordo_/status/1049087015059427329

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

If you don't take someone with you before dying you are a cuck

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

nerdz posted:

The biggest reason is self-explanatory: They've been in power for a super long time, and while they had a pretty strong start, they started getting extremely unpopular by the end, especially after the impeachment. They ended up taking the fall for all the corruption that happened in the last 16 years, part of it because they were framed and smeared, part of it because everyone else managed to hide their asses and last because they actually did their fair share of corruption schemes.

They're left wing and the right wing kept on getting pissed off, bolder and more fascist and that's where we are now, much like the US.

PT was in power for 12 and a half years, not 16. The coup pretty much locked them out, remember that.

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