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do workers syndicates like Mondragon and the like exist in Brazil? obviously not on the same level since they're the largest there is, but can they exist on a legalistic level?
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 21:04 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 03:57 |
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Plutonis posted:Lula started his career with the CUT syndicate in the late 70s and 80s which while still is the largest one in the country it got extremely weakened during the last few years. I was referring specifically to business' owned by workers with 'syndicalism', or does the CUT do both trade union work and seek to accumulate capital? Also, any particular reason for the weakening you can think of beyond the usual corporate capitalist poo poo the temer government has been up to?
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 22:03 |
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a burning capstone to a presidency of magnificent misery and oppression. goondolences
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2018 12:55 |
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goddamn brazil elections are a rollercoaster
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2018 13:53 |
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also good luck insallah
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2018 13:53 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:
it's gonna be greatr
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2018 14:28 |
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Larry Parrish posted:Consensus is a liberal brian virus. There has never been and never will be complete consensus on anything. There is only the seizure, protection, and execution of power. you mean the demand for absolute consensus. consensus is the end product of democracy, demanding absolute consensus is the tactic to deny consensus. much like the principle that our leaders ought be the most righteous and compassionate of those they lead, yet libs constantly accuse socialist leaders of moral offenses on a regular basis as an excuse to deny giving power of the leaders of the working classes. consensus is the prequisite of socialist power, the better we can establish consensus, more power the socialist movement can hold. which is the main reason I believe neural interfaces will not only allow an entirely new kind of socialist movement to arise, but that without the technological telepathy enabled by them, communism cannot be established
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2018 16:25 |
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Badger of Basra posted:trump has not yet set up domestic death squads ins'allah
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2018 17:39 |
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nerdz posted:It's a mix of depressed turnout (the lowest in 20 years), a strong rejection of the party that was in power for the last 16 years and a full-on crisis in all sectors I keep wondering what happens when you combine bolsonaros plans for giving everyone a gun and then disappointing all the working class fools voting for him by loving up worker's rights and privatising everything ACCELERATIONISM!
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2018 07:27 |
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Jawohl
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2018 15:14 |
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nerdz posted:I had to explain to this Right wing dude I know that was flirting with alt right ideas and being a "western chauvinist" that most of the alt right do not consider Latin America as part of the West. It did gently caress all to change his views but his reaction was funny i would actually really like to hear more about right winger reactions when told that most europeans, or whatever they think of as being their urheimat or... what do call north america plus europe? anyway, if youd ask northern nazis the question theyd tell you they do not consider brazilians to be of the same race as them. i really wanna see the look on some brazilian nazi when they find out that they themselves are actually the ones who get the short end of the race hierarchy stick and not their slightly browner neighbour they hate and envy
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2018 20:03 |
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Bro Dad posted:Nazis in places there shouldnt be (like latin america or russia) are just extreme authoritarian nationalists whos thoughts on actual nazis is "the ss looks cool and i hate jews" and/or "hitler did right for the germans, so a similar guy will do the same for us" oh I agree, i know it’s an idpol thingy, i’m just fascinated by that moment when those peopel find out what thought was their identity (in case of nazis, being white) isnt shared by the people they thought they shared their identity with. i have this fantasy of some brazilian nazi walking up to some norse looking guy with a thors hammer around his neck and starting with that whole ”us white peopel, w need to stink together” spiel and being told in confusion ”but brazilians arent whote???”
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2018 22:22 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This happens all the loving time online. White Europeans especially love to tell rich Brazilians that they're not white. huh. i guess i just need to start reading nazi reddit funny thing, swedish eugenics people used to write a lot about how finns were actually asiatics cuz they got slanty eyes or something like that. trauma about losing finland to russia i guess
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2018 22:49 |
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joepinetree posted:and then sent me so many insults my cousins had to take away his phone from him. lmao. i guess im just lucky the russians killed everybody in my extended family
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2018 09:37 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why is everything either authoritarian right with Bolsonaro or authoritarian left with Venezuela with people? It's not like there aren't other alternatives. yeah, you can also go to jail and hang out with Lula before joining with Allende after bolsonaro takes over
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2018 21:26 |
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2018 14:32 |
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goondolences to everyone. might wanna consider starting a militia for the now inevitable hilarity
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2018 16:06 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/DG_Barcellos/status/1057015801306329089 Kurnugia posted:i really wanna see the look on some brazilian nazi when they find out that they themselves are actually the ones who get the short end of the race hierarchy stick and not their slightly browner neighbour they hate and envy lol
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 12:54 |
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seriously though brazilgoon comrades , ya'll need to go buy a gun now. the civil wario looks pretty inevitable to my ignorant rear end at this point
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 12:58 |
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if you have any ideas for overthrowing a literal fascist junta, id be glad to hear them. im fully aware how previous attempts at that have gone so...
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 13:39 |
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spivak posted:Sorry man, didn't mean to be rude. I just feel that the whole situation is so godamn hopeless, and people that I love will suffer a lot even in the best case scenario. I didn't think you were being rude comrade and I truly sympathise. me I just wish i had something worth saying about all this poo poo. and maybe a body that wouldn't immediately auto-immunize itself into pieces without insanely expensive protein meds so I could actually do something except arrogantly preach to comrades who actually have to live under fascism Never Surrender
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 15:38 |
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fspades posted:pardon me for asking but are you american? HardDiskD posted:i mean i could buy a gun and commit suicide via military police, but i dont think that will help anyone i meant in the sense that if that starts to occur, irrespective of your personal preferences, your ability to acquire firearms will get limited. ergo, you might not be able to buy guns later if we assume that violence is a possibility in brazil. and im finnish, and i wasn't joking when i said im ignorant
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 20:14 |
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Kurtofan posted:The israel worship is really weird to me the fascist link with israel is perplexing, but there it is?
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2018 21:44 |
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this is fuckinng amazeballs level of political discourse
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2019 13:47 |
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translations posted are helpful since then everyone who needs one doesn't have to do it individually
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2019 23:00 |
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Negrostrike posted:There's a translation literally just under the tweet though? i was pointing it out in general, not abouty plutonis brazil milindustr updates specific. but also it's not imminently clear whether it's a translation or a funny post in comment. since reality is nowadays indistinguishable from funny internet posting and all that
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2019 07:20 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:While I would love to see that, I dont think is gonna be that easy. They are not going down without a fight well, ask yourself who exactly could have the power to remove him and you got your list of potential successors. the same guys responsible for imprisoning Lula, incidentally. so yes, probably nothing good butt, it does mean that they're gonna have to employ power directly and openly. and if the Party can actually beat the cops on the streets, there's going to be an opportunity to seize power Lula libre
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# ¿ May 24, 2019 13:34 |
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so whats the clock looking like for bolsonaro regime devolving into internal institutional power struggles
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2019 08:19 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:by "internal power struggles" you mean "the very serious military men in bolso's administration starting to plot a coup" yes. but those are usually preceded with different factions slapfighting it out in the bureaucracies for control over state institutions
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2019 15:29 |
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mila kunis posted:holy poo poo. is there an actual reaction against this or are the institutions so thoroughly corrupted and anti left that nothing will happen well I was betting on moro getting to be the face of the regime after the golden shower coup on bolsonaro necessitated him resigning, but i guess it's the moron&co whos going be the one getting peed on instead
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2019 21:31 |
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regime factions are probably going to use this as an excuse for settling internal power struggles and that'll be it. I don't think public corruption (even blatant like brazil) nowadays rarely leads to anything without a regime faction backing a purge
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2019 21:36 |
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mila kunis posted:i assume unless its left wingers doing the corruption, in which case they get coup'd Yeah!
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2019 21:47 |
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good luck and have fun with the leaky butt
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2019 08:59 |
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managing to let things get that bad is p impressive tho
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2019 19:04 |
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all socdems are bastards
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2019 19:51 |
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Victory Position posted:you know, I never considered the fact that trees don't pay taxes its brazils turn to burn the world and let me tell you, theyre right and i cant wait for the results
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2019 20:23 |
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bagual posted:and now over 20 policemen invaded the hospital where the girl died looking for the bullet. the fact that they see the need to do something like that does show that they're actually getting a bit worried about things like the media writing that the hospital found a police bullet in the girls brain. so... maybe thewe will be a really bloody revolution really soon and uhh
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2019 11:46 |
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nerdz posted:here you go dnd....
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 21:29 |
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oh don't be like that, there'as plenty of on the go fasc around to do a bit of couping up
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2019 20:23 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 03:57 |
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wait... who were these two again? e: i mean i know who glenn is, but whos that other guiy
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2019 19:00 |