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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Plutonis posted:

Yeah lol you know when people were worried about the US fundies rising to power due to their support of Bush in the 00s? Here those fuckers have way more influence in politics than that.

That's really weird, up until the past couple years I thought of Brazil's relationship to religion as "Catholicism, but not too much and definitely not on Carnaval", with puritanical evangelism being a mostly US phenomenon.

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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Shark Sandwich posted:

just bring back the emperor

Somebody's keeping track of who the current pretender is, and it's even disputed lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_succession_to_the_former_Brazilian_throne

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

it's impressive how every latin american protestant i've met has been of the "prosperity gospel, murder all poors and ayrabs, israel uber alles" variety

without exception

Well, it's not your "mainline", New England Episcopalians going down there to seek souls for the Lord

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


lol

I wonder how political the Confederado descendents are, or if its just as meaningless to them as St. Patricks day is to all the Americans that identify as "Irish"

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:



i wonder what the campaign strategy is going to be :thunk:

"Haddad is Lula"?

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Badger of Basra posted:

It's a good strategy but also lol at the last 10 seconds of this video:

https://twitter.com/ptbrasil/status/1044645967583162368

é Lula, é Haddad, é Haddad é Lula, é Lula Haddad (é 13)

eesh

I feel like this is going to backfire

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Catboy Autonomist posted:

Are there any good English-language Brazillian news sites that I can use to follow what the hell is going on right now?

Probably not the Atlantic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/10/bolsonaro-brazil-election-trump/572365/

Wherein we pretend PT hasn't been out of power for two and a half years and replaced by right wing kleptocrats who are also indicted for corruption

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Ghost of Mussolini posted:

will Bolsonaro ban voting or make it that voting can only be done by pressing the buttons with a gun

yes

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

nerdz posted:

Let me share a funny (and tragic) anecdote:

My friend's mother voted for Bolsonaro. My friend's brother is currently on the run because he's a drug addict and trafficker that tried to steal from his boss, so he's marked for death.

Friend's mother: Now all of these criminals and bums will be killed by the police, we will be safe again

Friend: Mom, you know that they'll kill brother right?

Friend's Mother: Of course not, your brother is small fry, they'll go for the big ones now

And now there's one more face ready to be eaten by leopards.

Chaotic Spookiness, Politics, and Murder › Post Trump Bolsonaro voters realizing that they're going to die under Trump Bolsonaro here

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

the loving wall street journal endorsed this fascist monster

https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazilian-swamp-drainer-1539039700

English language media is at worst treating him neutrally, I'm not at all surprised

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Does Brazil have any irredentist claims to a neighboring country like Uruguay or something that Bolsonaro could decide to annex or is he not that flavor of fascist

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

ZearothK posted:

We lost Uruguay a long time ago, enough for it not to count. But Bolsonaro has talked about wanting to attack Venezuela to defeat communism.

lol nice

Aguirre, the Wrath of God 2 is really shaping up nicely

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

punk rebel ecks posted:

Jesus. This makes the concept of race seem so stupid and arbitrary.

:hmmyes:

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

joepinetree posted:

But that has always sort of been the case in Brazil. The "socially liberal fiscal conservative professionals" that in the US have become the core of the democratic party can just be reactionaries in Brazil because they know that there's always a way for rich Brazilians to avoid conservative laws. It's the same reason why there very little push towards legalizing abortion in Brazil. For upper class women, abortion has always been de facto legal. Just like same sex couples have always been able to find a way to legally fulfill all the things that marriage would. Just like Brazil is one of the most violent places on earth for poor trans women, while at the same time being very accepting of trans celebrities (Roberta Close was the cover of Playboy almost 30 years ago).

After all, they're voting for the candidate of the "Social Liberal Party" :downs:

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

More than likely the most Brazil will do against Venezuela is help out any future contras financially and materially, and let them hide out in the Amazon if need be.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


That would be cool but would 100% be followed by a coup

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

get that OUT of my face posted:

when it comes to america there are lots of brazilians in boston and newark, but those are filled with massholes and tony soprano wannabes, respectively

also Deerfield Beach, but you'll be in Florida

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Bro Dad posted:

Theres so many awful bougie brazilians at disney world they pay guys in team brazil jerseys to scream at them for cutting in line and harassing the park employees


lol this owns

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

joepinetree posted:

Not only is a huge chunk of Brazilians living abroad extremely reactionary, even the namely "liberal" ones are generally bad.

I've mentioned it this several times in the Latin American thread in D&D, but there's this subset of Brazilians who in the US root for democrats, get emotional talking about Obama, post quotes of MLK who, when it comes to Brazilian politics, are extremely reactionary. It's the "Manhattan Connection" crowd. The epitome of that are journalists like Lucia Guimaraes, who will tweet about how horrendous the police brutality in the US is, while at the same time frequently defending Alckmin and the Sao Paulo police.

this is my aunt, a Brazilian immigrant for 35ish years living in Houston, to a T. She's extremely "green", protested the pipeline when that was going on, voted for Marina Silva in the first round of this election, and then Bolsonaro in the second because she believed the Workers Party was trying to make children gay

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003


"This is a sign of meritocracy" says the large adult son

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

joepinetree posted:

Violence by itself as an explanation for Bolsonaro is pretty misleading.

And Brazil is generally far more violent in the places that Bolsonaro did worse:







What's going on in Acre? Loggers and Miners murdering their way thru the rainforest?

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

rename thread to: What’s not very well known about Brazil is that, despite its colorful Latin ways,

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Elias_Maluco posted:

https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1080468589298229253

"More than 15% of national land is demarcated as indigenous and quilombola land. Less than half a million people live on these isolated places, explored and manipulated by ONGs. We are going to integrate those citizens and value all brazilians"

ah cool, he's planning a genocide

also lol that our dude is still raw about runaway slaves from the 16th century

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

frankenfreak posted:

So what I'm getting is that Lula needs to find the tankiest tankie to make his VP so they won't dare to coup him?

Haddad's running mate was a Communist for this exact reason. By the same token, the current VP is basically the Curtis LeMay of Brazil

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Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Owning the libs by joining them

https://twitter.com/ElAmerican_/status/1467156997585969161

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