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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

In South Africa during the Aparthaid Era megathread!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-45195756

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South Africa has been gripped by the mysterious death of former police officer Mark Minnie, just a week after he revealed horrific details about an alleged paedophile ring in the once-feared white-minority government that portrayed itself as being made up of devout Christian men.

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Minnie, 58, was found with a bullet to his head, but many people are refusing to believe the police version - that he took his own life at the farm of a friend near the coastal city of Port Elizabeth.

"The fact that the suicide note was found doesn't necessarily mean he wrote it willingly. I mean he could've written it under duress. The fact that he shot himself with someone else's pistol already raises questions," investigative journalist and author Jacques Pauw told South Africa's radio 702.

Minnie and journalist Chris Steyn co-authored The Lost Boys of Bird Island, which details shocking allegations against Magnus Malan, the once-powerful defence minister who was accused of setting up death squads and sanctioning military raids on neighbouring states as he fought to maintain white-supremacist rule in South Africa in the 1980s and 1990s.

In later years, Steyn confronted Malan about the allegations, and he replied: "What is a paedophile?", South Africa's privately owned News24 reported on its website.

Aged 81, Malan died of a heart attack in 2011 - about 17 years after anti-apartheid icon Nelson Mandela swept to power as South Africa's first black president, heralding the end of the racist system of apartheid.

Malan was part of a regime which believed that the Bible justified racism - and they saw themselves as defending their faith, families, and race from being over-run by "godless communists" and "uncivilised blacks".

But secretly, Minnie alleged, Malan was part of a paedophile ring which raped boys - mostly of mixed race - during "fishing excursions" on Bird Island, a declared nature reserve near Port Elizabeth. The boys were flown to the island in military helicopters, made drunk during barbecues - and then sexually abused, he alleged.

Malan's family and former colleagues strongly rejected the allegations against him, local media reported.

Other shocking allegations contained in The Lost Boys of Bird Island include:

*Some of the boys regarded Malan as an especially "cruel uncle", and nicknamed him "Ears" because of his big ears

*On one occasion, a gun was inserted into the anus of a boy. A shot was fired by Malan, and the critically injured boy was flown to a hospital in Port Elizabeth for treatment

*Men, dressed in suits, stood guard while the mixed-race boy was treated in the whites-only section of the hospital, even though this was illegal under South Africa's then-racial segregation laws

*The boy's family and the hospital matron were paid to remain silent.

*Minnie said he had been building a case against Malan, but was forced to abandon his investigation after senior police officers in the regime, then led by Pieter Willem Botha, intervened and a prosecutor wrote in "fat red letters" on the docket: "Any investigation into this matter should be discontinued immediately."

The book alleged that the paedophile ring, which operated in the 1980s, included then-Environmental Affairs Minister John Wiley and wealthy businessman and diver Dave Allen. Minnie said he had, in fact, arrested Allen for allegedly having sex with children and for possessing child pornography.

Allen, Minnie added, had sung "like a canary", and dropped "a bombshell: he mentions a name. And not just any name, but the name of a very powerful cabinet minister.

"I'm taken aback, then he names two more cabinet ministers. He threatens to open the whole can of worms."

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ferroque
Oct 27, 2007

how does this relate to the dutroux affair, op

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The leaders of the apartheid regime in South Africa were already so openly morally bankrupt, I'm not sure if them raping kids would actually change most people's opinion of them.

I also just realized this applies to US political leadership.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Atrocious Joe posted:

The leaders of the apartheid regime in South Africa were already so openly morally bankrupt, I'm not sure if them raping kids would actually change most people's opinion of them.

I also just realized this applies to US political leadership.

pedophiles tend to run in packs though and a lot of powerful people really don't want anyone investigating stuff like this

see the dozens of uk pedo investigations that were quietly axed behind closed doors

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

oh no way, the South African government not only copied the trappings of the Thatcher government, but also amped it up? no way whoaaaaa

Salacious Spy
May 29, 2010

Well the word got around they said this kid is insane, man
Banged in the mouth and now he's got AIDS, man
I guess when you get the kind of power that makes you unaccountable to anyone the primo thing to do is gently caress kids???

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i'm amazed at how every powerful group of people throughout history manage to end up loving kids. what is the appeal?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
White South Africans are just cartoonishly evil, aren't they?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


get that OUT of my face posted:

i'm amazed at how every powerful group of people throughout history manage to end up loving kids. what is the appeal?

turns out the entire drive to achieve power and wealth is to cover loving kids

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


gonna be funny when pizzagate is entirely right accidentally

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

gonna be funny when pizzagate is entirely right accidentally

I defended that pizzagate and qanon are a smokescreen to an even more hosed up pedo ring conspiracy from the start

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

i'm amazed at how every powerful group of people throughout history manage to end up loving kids. what is the appeal?

It's the forbidden fruit aspect. Also the dominance aspect. Also the being a sick gently caress aspect.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

White South Africans are just cartoonishly evil, aren't they?

https://youtu.be/fxEweP2TiMk

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Plutonis posted:

I defended that pizzagate and qanon are a smokescreen to an even more hosed up pedo ring conspiracy from the start
my problem with pizzagate was that it besmirched the good name of pizza by tying it into pedophilia

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

White South Africans are just cartoonishly evil, aren't they?

well, I've never met a nice south african, and that's not bloody surprising, man

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Plutonis posted:

I defended that pizzagate and qanon are a smokescreen to an even more hosed up pedo ring conspiracy from the start

it's called us olympics

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

the entire purpose of the olympics is to facilitate pedophila op

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi
when was pedophilia and child pornography made illegal and what happened before that time?

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Ocean Book posted:

when was pedophilia and child pornography made illegal and what happened before that time?

The victims were beaten for crying.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

World War Mammories posted:

well, I've never met a nice south african, and that's not bloody surprising, man

my head instantly went to this

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Ocean Book posted:

when was pedophilia and child pornography made illegal and what happened before that time?

I vaguely remember hearing the story of how the hunt for a serial killer led to the discovery of a Pedophile ring in the 70s. Like it was a camp used by rich people to rape kids and one of the members was also a serial killer.

IIRC of course.

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

get that OUT of my face posted:

i'm amazed at how every powerful group of people throughout history manage to end up loving kids. what is the appeal?

one pedophile convinces his colleagues that loving an adult woman is something a common peasant would do

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

More evidence has emerged of a white South African in an inappropriate relationship with a child

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001
Can't wait to see this scandal be taken to task by the full faith and credit of the US Media Industrial Complex.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Atrocious Joe posted:

More evidence has emerged of a white South African in an inappropriate relationship with a child


this is what peak performance looks like

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

World War Mammories posted:

well, I've never met a nice south african, and that's not bloody surprising, man

Except for Breyten Breytenback, and he's emigrated to Paris!

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

White South Africans are just cartoonishly evil, aren't they?

Spitting Image South African song link

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

gonna be funny when pizzagate is entirely right accidentally

isn't that basically the epstein kid loving island which doesn't get much play because both american political parties have big names attached to it

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Fiend posted:

Can't wait to see this scandal be taken to task by the full faith and credit of the US Media Industrial Complex.

:(

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

White South Africans are just cartoonishly evil, aren't they?

unironically yes

nowadays you can say White UAE residents because they booked when apartheid ended

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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Ocean Book posted:

when was pedophilia and child pornography made illegal and what happened before that time?

Child porn wasn't illegal until like the 60s or something ridiculous

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