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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:I think that I'm missing something here. I played several Sierra adventure games when I was younger but nothing springs to mind. The backstory on the librarian is that he used to be human and was accidentally turned into an orangutan by basically a student prank, which got Rincewind thrown out of the university. Since then he has discovered he rather likes being an orangutan, and the rest of the faculty have become so used to it than if anyone reported an orangutan in the library they would probably ask the librarian if he had seen it. The librarian is extremely protective of his original name because he's afraid that someone will try to turn him back (knowing the true name of something is one of the most powerful rules in magic, after all), and all the yearbooks from the year he graduated have a page mysteriously missing, with only banana-scented fingerprints left behind. Rincewind is probably the only person aside from the librarian himself who actually remembers what his original name is, and the last time he mused about telling anyone he ended up dangling by his ankles at the top of a tower. As to why Rincewind knew the librarian before, I think he used to work in the library, which is why he was the one in place for the student prank.
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Mr. Vile posted:The backstory on the librarian is that he used to be human and was accidentally turned into an orangutan by basically a student prank, which got Rincewind thrown out of the university. Since then he has discovered he rather likes being an orangutan, and the rest of the faculty have become so used to it than if anyone reported an orangutan in the library they would probably ask the librarian if he had seen it. The librarian is extremely protective of his original name because he's afraid that someone will try to turn him back (knowing the true name of something is one of the most powerful rules in magic, after all), and all the yearbooks from the year he graduated have a page mysteriously missing, with only banana-scented fingerprints left behind. Rincewind is probably the only person aside from the librarian himself who actually remembers what his original name is, and the last time he mused about telling anyone he ended up dangling by his ankles at the top of a tower. I was under the impression that the Librarian got turned into an orang-utan from a burst of magic from the Octavo in the first book (or it might have been the second, I don't remember). Rincewind ends up becoming the assistant librarian for Reasons, possibly the university faculty wanting to get him out of the way, and I guess they bond over being misfits or something. And then Rincewind becomes the Professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography.
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Epicmissingno posted:I was under the impression that the Librarian got turned into an orang-utan from a burst of magic from the Octavo in the first book (or it might have been the second, I don't remember). Rincewind ends up becoming the assistant librarian for Reasons, possibly the university faculty wanting to get him out of the way, and I guess they bond over being misfits or something. Yep. Second book at the start, when the Octavo casts a spell to save Rincewind. Robindaybird posted:one of the reasons is The Librarian realized that a lot of dangerous books he had to be careful about no longer consider him a threat or a target as they're designed only to deter humans, thus being an Ape makes his job A LOT easier. quote:Legend said that any mortal man who read more than a few lines of the original copy would die insane. I love that bit.
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Epicmissingno posted:I was under the impression that the Librarian got turned into an orang-utan from a burst of magic from the Octavo in the first book (or it might have been the second, I don't remember). Rincewind ends up becoming the assistant librarian for Reasons, possibly the university faculty wanting to get him out of the way, and I guess they bond over being misfits or something. Turns out I actually misremembered that detail. I thought it was from Rincewind opening the Octavo on what amounts to a student dare, but it was actually a side effect of the Octavo stopping him from falling over the edge of the Disc while one of the eight spells was still living in his brain.
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Bruceski posted:Yep. Second book at the start, when the Octavo casts a spell to save Rincewind. I don't know what the term is for this kind of comedy but it's probably my favorite kind of comedy writing. The only other author that I've seen use this is douglas adams .
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They really messed up Ponder Stibbons. His main characteristic is that he's the sane and level-headed one at UU, not a mad scientist.
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Well he's an actual researcher when the rest of the staff would much rather avoid work as much as possible, your undergraduate to the Wizards' Tenure.
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double nine posted:I don't know what the term is for this kind of comedy but it's probably my favorite kind of comedy writing. The only other author that I've seen use this is douglas adams . It's the comedic version of the carefully-worded prophecy subversion. "No man of woman born shall kill me / Macduff was from his mother's womb untimely ripp'd" and so forth. Although that's a serious outlier, most of the others are just "No man can kill me / I'm a woman." My favorite example of that kind of subversion is a dude who could not be slain on foot or while mounted, on land or in the water, clothed or naked. The hero got the dude's girlfriend to tease him about it and tempt fate, resulting in the dude stepping out of the bath by putting one foot on a goat while the girl handed him his robe.
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 Rincewind explores several locations within Ankh-Morpork in this video as well as speaking to a variety of people. There's still more locations to explore and people to talk too which I'll try to cover this weekend. It's the third episode and I've managed to solve my first puzzle, I'm doing well so far!
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Ah, now that's the Dibbler voice I know and love! The part where Rincewind walked away, that you speculated might be a glitch, I think was just a gag of Rincewind choosing to walk away from the conversation before he gets caught up talking to Dibbler. He did it to the beekeeper too.
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Tenebrais posted:The part where Rincewind walked away, that you speculated might be a glitch, I think was just a gag of Rincewind choosing to walk away from the conversation before he gets caught up talking to Dibbler. He did it to the beekeeper too. Yes, but was he supposed to get stuck walking into the actress on his way out?
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Ah, lots of these conversations make much more sense/are far wittier now than they were when I was a teenager.
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nielsm posted:Ah, lots of these conversations make much more sense/are far wittier now than they were when I was a teenager. Yeah, I finally got the "anthill inside" joke.
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The milkmaid is played by the same person in both games, along with every other female character. The second game kept her (Kate Robbins), Rob Brydon and, of course, Eric Idle, but replaced Tony Robinson and Jon Pertwee with Nigel Planer. So instead of four people playing about 75 characters you've got three people playing about 58¹. It works out to be about the same number of characters per actor, but I've no idea how the actual amount of dialogue compares. ¹ I say "about" because I'm not sure I counted accurately.
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 I'm almost done with the initial exploration, in this videorecording Rincewind explores the Fool's Guild and part of the Shades. There's not much that I can really add to what I've already been saying, there's plenty of dialogue in this episode and a few attempts at solving some puzzles on the fly. Tiggum posted:The milkmaid is played by the same person in both games, along with every other female character. The second game kept her (Kate Robbins), Rob Brydon and, of course, Eric Idle, but replaced Tony Robinson and Jon Pertwee with Nigel Planer. So instead of four people playing about 75 characters you've got three people playing about 58¹. It works out to be about the same number of characters per actor, but I've no idea how the actual amount of dialogue compares. I should have checked this thread again before posting, in the next video I will relay this information and give you credit for it. I was already aware of the slight change in actor's which I tried touching a little upon in this recording. I don't think that I explained myself properly previously, I was meaning that the actress had seemed to give the character a new voice and a slight change in personality in this game. Maybe fame has changed her?
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Man, Henry Coffin is really uncomfortable to listen to. The coughing and hacking sounds so authentic. And hey, we got the glitter. And the mouse blood! Unfortunately, the mouse still seems to be using it.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:The volatile relationship in the first game was pretty much heightened for comedic effect. The Librarian and Rincewind are pretty good friends in the books and it's portrayed more accurately in the introduction of the second game. I know that Rincewind knew the Librarian before he became an Orang-Utan and I think that he's one of the few people left alive who knows his actual name. I may be remembering this incorrectly as it's been a long time since I've read many of the earlier books, does one of them imply that they both were students at the University together too? I don't recall them being students together. However you maybe referring to after the events of Colour of Magic/The Light Fantastic and Sorcery, the university gives him a job as assistant librarian in order to keep him out of the way. Later after the events of Interesting Times and one of the big art books I now forget he ends up being made Professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography with the reasoning they don't have one at the moment and he's run away over so much of it he must know about it. I also believe in Unseen Academicals the Archchancellor has a thinking moment to himself where he states that they keep Rincewind around because his bad-luck problems are like a lightning rod that keeps the rest of the university safe.
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I have a copy of Nanny Ogg's Cookbook (A useful and improving Almanack of Information including Astonishing Recipes), which includes some dwarven recipes, slightly altered to make them edible by humans. This includes the classic Sticky Toffee Rat Onna Stick (shaped from marzipan) and Quattro Rodenti, a pizza with rat-shaped sliced roast beef shaped over tomato-and-mushroom innards. As well as Rat Vindaloo, which simply has the note "You don't want to know about it. Besides, how would you tell?" The editors attempted to get a recipe from Rincewind, but what they got shouted over his shoulder was potatoes, in their jackets, in great big baths of butter. This seemed too close to the Librarian's recipe ("Ook," or loosely translated, "take one banana."), so instead they have provided us with a rather lovely recipe for potato-and-onion cakes that can be eaten on the run. The book covers most of the familiar characters and locales of the Disc, and as we encounter them I'd be pleased to provide the recipes.
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I must say, the new voice for the fool is much less irritating.Rocket Baby Dolls posted:I was meaning that the actress had seemed to give the character a new voice and a slight change in personality in this game. Maybe fame has changed her? Dareon posted:I have a copy of Nanny Ogg's Cookbook
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 This covers the final part of exploring Ankh-Morpork and talking to people. I had a little time to start puzzle solving towards the end but my brain kind of shut down a little. Act I should definitely be resolved in the next episode. Dareon posted:The book covers most of the familiar characters and locales of the Disc, and as we encounter them I'd be pleased to provide the recipes. I'd very much appreciate anything you have to share, thank you for the offer!
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The Mrs Cake bit is a nice little puzzle - got to figure out what to say so that it properly relates to her response. It just so happens that going through the options in near-order will do it. Speaking of dialogue options, it was a good move to replace the "insult" option with a "thoughts" one. Better for giving hints and makes Rincewind seem like less of an arsehole.
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Nanny Ogg's Cookbook I - Casanunda, Rincewind, Ponder Stibbons Unfortunately we haven't actually met anyone in this video who's explicitly included in the cookbook. There are notes on etiquette for dealing with trolls, vampires, and Granny Weatherwax (If you punch a troll as hard as you can when first meeting them, you will likely have a friend for life, as well as someone to carry you to the nearest bonesetter), and Casanunda features in a few illustrations thanks to his whirlwind romance with Nanny Ogg. We can use him as a jumping-off point for one of the recipes we might otherwise not get to feature, and continue with our dear Rincewind and an Unseen Academical. As a note for our American audience, these recipes use metric measurements, unit converters are available on most smart devices these days. Nanny Ogg's Maids of Honour  Take your eyes off them and they end up as tarts. Makes about 6, depending on the size of the moulds.
Spoon the mascarpone mixture into the tins, not quite to the top, and bake for around 25 minutes or until golden brown. Remove from the oven and let rest for ten minutes for the filling to set before removing from the tins to cool on a wire rack. Before serving, sprinkle cocoa powder around the edges and place a quarter glacé cherry on each. Rincewind's Potato Cakes Makes 6-8.
Can be eaten on the run. Dried Frog Pills Ponder Stibbons, faced with the Bursar's insanity, came across some old research that certain types of frog caused hallucinations and reasoned that if the active ingredient (Bufotenin or the nearest magical equivalent) could be isolated and adjusted, it may be possible to make the Bursar hallucinate that he was completely sane. Provided he remembers his pills, the Bursar at least passes for sane by the standard of universities. The editors have removed the frog-based ingredient from the recipe because its inclusion would result in cruelty to frogs and outbreaks of homicidal sanity.
Take one whenever the world gets too much, or when the voices tell you to.
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Double posting to prevent general game chatter from coming through in any potential archiving of this LP. It took me ages to get the ectoplasm, because my young, innocent brain couldn't make the leap from "looks like a giant drink mixer" to "mix spirits." I got the joke immediately, though. And one gameplay tip you may or may not be aware of: You can Use any item on the Luggage to put it inside without opening the inventory window. Or at least you could in the PS1 version.
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I've got very mixed opinions of Paul Kidby's illustrations. Some of them seem spot on, others not so much. His versions of Vimes, Vetinari and Death are fantastic, but these are three of the worst. Granny Weatherwax and Casanunda are both supposed to be very good-looking people, and they just aren't here. And Nanny Ogg looks like a cartoon character who got hit in the face with a frying pan and now her face is all flat.
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Dareon posted:And one gameplay tip you may or may not be aware of: You can Use any item on the Luggage to put it inside without opening the inventory window. Or at least you could in the PS1 version. You can also double-click on a room transition to warp straight to the next room without having to wait for Rincewind to walk there (or ambulate in such other fashion as may be appropriate to that transition).
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Tiggum posted:I've got very mixed opinions of Paul Kidby's illustrations. Some of them seem spot on, others not so much. His versions of Vimes, Vetinari and Death are fantastic, but these are three of the worst. Granny Weatherwax and Casanunda are both supposed to be very good-looking people, and they just aren't here. And Nanny Ogg looks like a cartoon character who got hit in the face with a frying pan and now her face is all flat. Yeah, Granny Weatherwax is supposed to have that evil allure thing going on and Nanny is 100% everyone's Grandma with a very 'good' sense of humor.
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Dareon posted:Rincewind's Potato Cakes I know it's a recipe from a book, but I think it's better to use Panko breadcrumbs instead.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I know it's a recipe from a book, but I think it's better to use Panko breadcrumbs instead. Yeah, some of the recipes are very specific where they don't need to be, like asking for a specific brand of triple sec (  Which wouldn't even exist as that branding on the Disc).
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 This is the end of Act I which was actually quite nicely timed. I should have the start of Act II up on Friday. For now, enjoy the five-minute cutscene at the end of this video with a very questionable song... It's hard to plan with adventure games sometimes, usually, when I have notes that I think will last me for thirty minutes I'm done in ten and vice versa. I was having some microphone issues today so I'm sounding pretty low for this recording. Thank you for taking out to post these recipes. I wonder which kind of frogs we aren't supposed to use. Dareon posted:And one gameplay tip you may or may not be aware of: You can Use any item on the Luggage to put it inside without opening the inventory window. Or at least you could in the PS1 version. Nidoking posted:You can also double-click on a room transition to warp straight to the next room without having to wait for Rincewind to walk there (or ambulate in such other fashion as may be appropriate to that transition). I was aware of these beforehand, I tried to explain a little in the recording but I'll elaborate here. Anything that's collectable in the game world usually has a different description while in the luggage. Personally, I just found it quicker to open up the luggage window so I could place the object and examine it straight away. The location transition is just another personal choice. It's certainly quicker and I don't think that I was clear during the recording with my thoughts on this. Personally, I just prefer the transitions to show Rincewind exiting through a passage and entering through another. It's nothing on OCD levels or anything, if people prefer I just warp out to cut down on time then I'd happily switch.
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Nanny Ogg's Cookbook II - Archchancellor Ridcully, Foul Ole Ron, Death A few more lightly associated recipes, but we do actually have one from Unseen University. Wow Wow Sauce This recipe is one handed down through the Ridcully family. Like most wizards, Archchancellor Ridcully is a man who goes for sauces. This is of course not genuine Wow Wow Sauce, which can be made only under carefully controlled conditions and is at its best when on the verge of explosively disintegrating. Shaking the bottle is inviting catastrophe, and only a fool would light an after-dinner cigar with Wow Wow Sauce on the table. When a bottle of five-year-old sauce was found in the UU pantry, the entire wing was evacuated for two days until it could be disposed of in a controlled dinner.
Melt the butter in a saucepan. Stir in the flour and beef stock. Stir continuously on a moderate heat until you have a smooth, thick sauce. Add the mustard, white wine vinegar, port and mushroom concentrate, season with salt and pepper, and continue to cook for about 10 minutes. Stir in the parsley and walnuts, warm through, and serve. Brodequin Rôti Façon Ombres Foreign for "Man's boots in mud." The story goes that a posh restaurant found itself one day with nothing in the larder but mud and old boots and a restaurant full of people. This might normally have been a problem, but since the art of cuisine is making something from nothing and charging a lot of money for doing it, the chefs managed to produce such a range of delicacies that now old boots fetch a high price in the city and rare, sun-dried muds are imported from foreign parts. This recipe captures the look but hopefully not the taste.
Now, Death, being the anthropomorphic representation of a universal constant, does not eat. The etiquette portion of this book suggests leaving him a little something when you know it's your time (You cannot go wrong with a ham roll), but if you ask me he's just partaking to be nice. But the upshot is that he has not provided a recipe for our edification. So instead, here are two recipes that might have you meeting him if prepared incorrectly.  Deep-Sea Blowfish (The Easy Version)
Check the fish for any scales or bones and remove any you find. Place in a colander and quickly pour boiling water over it, then immediately plunge the fish into a bowl of cold water; the object is not to cook it but to make sure it is clean. Finely slice the radishes and spring onions and arrange these with the watercress into pretty patterns on the plates. Using a very sharp knife, slice the fish as thinly as possible. Serve immediately, with the soy dip. Lord Downey's Mint Humbugs
Ah, there's the problem. Arsenic has been used in times past as a food colouring (It makes a lovely green), but as Lord Downey is the president of the Ankh-Morpork Guild of Assassins, this is unlikely to be the reason for its inclusion. We should bear this in mind, and forget the arsenic. Oil two large plates, and set them aside for later. Mix the sugar and glucose together in a saucepan. Add the water and stir together over a gentle heat until the sugar has dissolved, not adding arsenic at any point. Add the cream of tartar, bring to a boil and continue to boil until the sugar reaches 140°C (Use a candy/sugar thermometer). You can test it by dropping a few drops into a bowl of icewater; the mixture should become brittle. Remove the pan from the heat and add the peppermint oil. Divide the mixture between the two oiled plates (it will be very hot). Using an oiled palette knife, add the green food colouring to one half (this is a good time not to add any arsenic), turning it well to distribute the color evenly. The mixture can now be left until it is cool enough to handle. Oil your hands, then mold each cooled half separately into a sausage shape and lengthen this out to a thickish strand. You'll need to work quickly before any arsenic is added. Twine the two strands together like a rope and then snip into small pieces with a pair of oiled scissors, turning the 'rope' at each cut. When the humbugs are hardened, wrap them individually in waxed or other non-stick food wrap and store in an airtight tin, away from any arsenic. These are to die for, or perhaps of.
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Dareon posted:Wow Wow Sauce I had assumed that this would be some kind of chilli sauce. 
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Tiggum posted:I had assumed that this would be some kind of chilli sauce.
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Robindaybird posted:I just assume it's for the typical British palette which isn't too fond of the hot. An entire teaspoon of mustard
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Tiggum posted:I had assumed that this would be some kind of chilli sauce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow-Wow_sauce
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