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General Dog posted:It matters to the fans, I think. But is anybody on either side really heartbroken if we lose: For reasons I gave earlier I do think there's some value in trying to build this into a rivalry. It ought to be one, it's so natural! But like I also said, I really don't give a poo poo about Arkansas one way or the other now that Bert's gone. I'm actually inclined to like their basketball team and root for them since I have fond memories of Mike Anderson and don't blame him for leaving.
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Neil Armbong posted:This is what I was thinking. Making it so cross division schools play on a regular cadence isn't rocket science. The SEC is p bitchmade across the board when it comes to scheduling, both in and out of conference. It all just feeds the narrative about how it's so hard when in reality they're p much the same as every other conference with some good teams, middling teams and garbage teams, not the murderers row they/ESPN would want you to believe it is. The SEC West is a pretty nasty division when the teams that are supposed to be good are good, the bad teams also aren't bad enough. Ole Miss's counterpart in the hard Big Ten division would be Indiana or Maryland, Ole Miss was ahead of Penn State in the 2017 talent composite. Mississippi State is supposed to be a bottom tier free win and they haven't quite been that lately. Arkansas is the Rutgers right now, and they have a higher ceiling than that. The SEC East is nothing special.
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Lasagna Pilot posted:The SEC West is a pretty nasty division when the teams that are supposed to be good are good, the bad teams also aren't bad enough. Ole Miss's counterpart in the hard Big Ten division would be Indiana or Maryland, Ole Miss was ahead of Penn State in the 2017 talent composite. Mississippi State is supposed to be a bottom tier free win and they haven't quite been that lately. Arkansas is the Rutgers right now, and they have a higher ceiling than that. The SEC’s best argument for its relative strength is that year to year, its worst teams are nowhere near as bad as Rutgers or Illinois or Kansas or maybe Oregon State. Arkansas this year is extremely bad, but that’s kind of an outlier.
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General Dog posted:That ignores the fact that no one except the Pac-10 was playing a 9 game conference schedule until 2011, the Big Ten didn't go to 9 until 2016, and and the ACC is still at 8. It definitely inflated the Big XII back in the day, and still does the ACC, though the ACC has enough terrible teams that the conference as a whole doesn't really benefit. LLCoolJD posted:I really have to disagree with your theory. Texas, FSU, Miami, and Clemson are in SEC states but recruit very well. Recruiting comes from being a P5 school with good funding and fan support in rich recruiting ground states, not from notching a win over Colorado State. SEC has its share of gimme wins too. Every year there are 2-3 teams that are realbad and another 3-4 that are OK. The schools you listed are blue bloods, they'll do well recruiting no matter what.
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kayakyakr posted:It definitely inflated the Big XII back in the day, and still does the ACC, though the ACC has enough terrible teams that the conference as a whole doesn't really benefit. Inflated the Big 12 in comparison to who? Just the PAC-10?
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Sep 20, 2018 18:16
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Scionix posted:bye felicia 
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General Dog posted:Right now, South Carolina has a pretty tough one You're right. Florida and South Carolina have arguably the most difficult annual OOC games and they're both SEC schools. I think the other big SEC schools have been okay about a decent early season OOC game, too.
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Lasagna Pilot posted:The SEC West is a pretty nasty division when the teams that are supposed to be good are good, the bad teams also aren't bad enough. Ole Miss's counterpart in the hard Big Ten division would be Indiana or Maryland, Ole Miss was ahead of Penn State in the 2017 talent composite. Mississippi State is supposed to be a bottom tier free win and they haven't quite been that lately. Arkansas is the Rutgers right now, and they have a higher ceiling than that. Look at all the qualifiers. My point is every conference is the same and has years where they're deep with quality and years where only 1, maybe 2 teams are worth a poo poo. It's more that the SEC is nothing special.
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UGA self reported 2 NCAA violations for football. The most grave is as follows:NCAA Compliance posted:In another case that seems ripe for critics of the NCAA's thick rulebook, the SEC informed Georgia that a paper name tag (1X8) placed on the shelf of a locker for a football recruit's visit picture was a no-no.
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General Dog posted:Inflated the Big 12 in comparison to who? Just the PAC-10? I suppose a better phrasing would be deflated the Pac-10 back in the day
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KKKLIP ART posted:UGA self reported 2 NCAA violations for football. The most grave is as follows: Death penalty imo
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ACC is not wholly garbage anymore guys. I know that's hard to grasp, but it just isn't. Out of 14 teams only 2 or 3 in most years is truly bottom barrel terrible (looks honestly like only UNC this year, and I guess FSU if they keep playing the way they have) and none of them are as awful as Rutgers or Kansas as consistently as they are. ACC scheduling is still trash because we want to be like the SEC, but the conference is just full of solid okay teams. We won't look as great because we eat each other up generally speaking. Gonna be 10-12 bowl teams coming out of the ACC this season imo.
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Neil Armbong posted:Look at all the qualifiers. My point is every conference is the same and has years where they're deep with quality and years where only 1, maybe 2 teams are worth a poo poo. It's more that the SEC is nothing special. I just honestly think that is false, the recruiting and money being spent isn't uniform and the null hypothesis isn't uniformity. The computer numbers don't suggest uniformity either but I dunno how convincing those really are. Lasagna Pilot fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Sep 20, 2018 18:38
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Not a conference, is THE conference.
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The ACC required a laugh track from about 2002 to 2012, which is hard to forget, but it's pretty great now. Though maybe a little meh this season.
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General Dog posted:It matters to the fans, I think. But is anybody on either side really heartbroken if we lose: I really like having Florida LSU—it’s become a really fun cross-divisional rivalry over the past 20yrs or so. Having said that, I’d gladly sacrifice it for a more robust schedule in the SEC. But if we could keep a constant I’d want to keep it.
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Ole Miss and Miss. St. would probably be heartbroken to not get to play Vandy and Kentucky every year. Really got lucky on those mostly-abitrary assignments.
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Was it LSU-Florida or Ole LSU-Florida that caused Tebow to cry so much he leveled up and won the championship?
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Hustlin Floh posted:Was it LSU-Florida or Ole LSU-Florida that caused Tebow to cry so much he leveled up and won the championship? Ole Miss. The tears had no effect on Alabama, unfortunately, but Tebow is such an awesome person he can cry as much as he wants to.
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MourningView posted:
Edit: after sabans first year ,yeah. He lost to georgia that year as well as miss St in the west (and Louisiana Monroey, lol) mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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mastershakeman posted:Isn't South Carolina one of the only sec east teams to beat saban? Them and urban Meyers Florida, anyoen else ? To be fair, he ducked the SEC East champ a couple of years where he won the national championship.
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The Notorious ZSB posted:ACC is not wholly garbage anymore guys. I know that's hard to grasp, but it just isn't. Out of 14 teams only 2 or 3 in most years is truly bottom barrel terrible (looks honestly like only UNC this year, and I guess FSU if they keep playing the way they have) and none of them are as awful as Rutgers or Kansas as consistently as they are. I don't think any of the p5 conferences are garbage. There are schools that are garbage, but just about all of the p5 have legit top 10 teams, some solid ranked teams, some bowl-quality teams, and a or two team that is going to top out at 2-3 wins total. Remember that Kansas was a top 10 team a little over a decade ago. Baylor at one point had only 3 wins in 8 seasons. FSU and Virginia Tech were doormats for a good part of their history. Hell, Alabama went through the Shula era. This stuff changes year-to-year.
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Here y'all go, Saban losses at Alabama: 2007 Georgia 2007 Florida State (in Jacksonville) 2007 LSU 2007 @ Mississippi State 2007 Louisiana-Monroe 2007 @ Auburn 2008 Florida (SEC Championship Game) 2010 @ South Carolina 2010 @ LSU 2010 Auburn 2011 LSU 2012 Texas A&M 2013 @ Auburn 2014 @ Ole Miss 2014 Ohio State (CFP National Semifinal) 2015 Ole Miss 2016 Clemson (CFP National Championship Game) 2017 @ Auburn Almost from memory. I always forget that '07 FSU loss.
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kayakyakr posted:I don't think any of the p5 conferences are garbage. There are schools that are garbage, but just about all of the p5 have legit top 10 teams, some solid ranked teams, some bowl-quality teams, and a or two team that is going to top out at 2-3 wins total. I wonder, if you threw out the top two teams of each conference and the bottom two of each conference, if P5 inter-conference matchups would be somewhere around .500. That is sort of my guess but who knows.
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Ever since I bought  and  my Hogs have been cursedPetrino had us in the Sugar Bowl... 
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D.N. Nation posted:Here y'all go, Saban losses at Alabama: The crazy thing about that LA Monroe win is it wasn't vs a good coach.
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Rick posted:I wonder, if you threw out the top two teams of each conference and the bottom two of each conference, if P5 inter-conference matchups would be somewhere around .500. That is sort of my guess but who knows. I'd guess that would be true.
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KKKLIP ART posted:UGA self reported 2 NCAA violations for football. The most grave is as follows: THERE IS ALWAYS MORE AND IT IS ALWAYS WORSE. JFC. BURN THIS poo poo TO THE GROUND
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https://twitter.com/Huskers/status/1042881357121118208 OK, cool, bring the band up too
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Lol apparently Florida has only sold 2600 of their 7500 ticket allotment for this weekends game
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Everyone else wants to preserve their ACLS
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vyst posted:Everyone else wants to preserve their ACLS 
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Jazzimus Prime posted:Ever since I bought is god's work for the actual text string joke alone
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LSU - Florida has produced quite a few high quality games. Why would you want to get rid of that series?
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Joey Freshwater posted:Lol apparently Florida has only sold 2600 of their 7500 ticket allotment for this weekends game We can suffer through it at home with a handle of Dickel, thanks.
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Some juicy Auburn rumors: TE Jalen Harris left the program and maybe Nate-Craig Myers and his brother are going to leave too.
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Spacebump posted:The crazy thing about that LA Monroe win is it wasn't vs a good coach. I can’t describe how buck wild shulas players were that Saban inherited. They thought they were the hottest of poo poo and were into all kinds of nonsense. That first year was a crazy transistion
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I might be late to the party here but I swear I just heard an AAC commercial refer to itself as "a power six conference", is this a new thing?
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Seaniqua posted:I might be late to the party here but I swear I just heard an AAC commercial refer to itself as "a power six conference", is this a new thing? They did. It's been part of their branding for the past 18 months or so. They've been using P6 since at least last season.
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Seaniqua posted:I might be late to the party here but I swear I just heard an AAC commercial refer to itself as "a power six conference", is this a new thing? Power conference at basketball, sure. But football?
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