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Ccs posted:The state of anime reviews is just generally terrible. At least the ANN writers can string a sentence together. How so? Mind you I don't pay attention to any of this poo poo beyond seeing what some may say about shows that I like or follow and get most of my recs from my own group elsewhere.
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Endorph posted:digibro is the most popular anime youtuber and unironically thinks that the path forward for the anime industry is for them to be supported entirely by patreons and the profits from previous anime series, with zero producers involved, and he pointed to trigger's patreon as an example of this
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Elephant Parade posted:so I googled Theron Martin and Why is it even in parentheses? As an aside, I don't pay much attention to studios and whatnot and I dunno about A-1, but their Wotakoi adaption was really good. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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StandardVC10 posted:I used to watch a whole bunch of stuff (all of Hidamari Sketch, K-on, Mushishi...) on Hulu, then they got rid of most of it. Now I guess they're getting a bunch of other stuff? Streaming is way too confusing for a lazy rear end in a top hat like me. I remember when K-on was still new and people used to bash it for being moe blob or some poo poo? Never watched it, but want to and I always had a soft spot for it and shows like it for their nice SoL atmospheres along with the impact it had on a lot of kids in Japan to want to take up guitar and music in general.
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StandardVC10 posted:I have some theories as to why K-on gets a different reaction now vs. 2009-2010 but they're probably stupid and wrong. Legit curious so post or PM if you don't want to derail.
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Silver2195 posted:Part of it was probably the Zorak-era ADTRW culture of trying really hard not to appear creepy, but to be fair to the detractors, the original manga was published in a seinen magazine, so the idea that it's aimed at lonely 40-year-old men doesn't come from nowhere. I've been told that there's a subtle difference in tone between the anime and the manga that leads to the anime having more female fans. Not a hundred percent sure if that shouldn't be a too much of a factor since doesn't Yotsuba also run on a Seinen magazine? I've always taken that to mean that it wouldn't appeal to the Shounen demographic in that it lacks the usual action beats and other stuff associated with the demographic genre. Point still makes sense though. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Endorph posted:'seinen' is a really vague demographic even by demographic standards. houseki no kuni runs in a seinen magazine too and near as I can tell the japanese fanbase is almost entirely women in their 30s. What do Berserk, Space Brothers, and Yotsuba have in common? They're all Seinen. Yeah that's so loving weird to think about.
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Endorph posted:the thing about seinen is that Josei is a really, really narrow 'demographic,' unlike a lot of other stuff. Vinland Saga has a lot of female fans too but I've never seen anything like it run in a josei magazine, while you can find plenty of josei-esque down to earth romantic dramas/romcoms that ran in seinen magazines. So anything that's for adults and isn't obviously josei tends to wind up running in a seinen magazine. Yeah I've noticed that. It's just sort of bizarre. Granted Shounen is similar with stuff like One Piece and Taisho Otome Otogibanashi both being Shounen in spite of the latter being REALLY shoujo with how romcoms framed it is.
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Ok after reading a poo poo load of posts about various shows one here, I feel compelled to share some info I got from a source in China that posts on reddit for an anime we both enjoy about some of the anume this season. Gridman and Zombie Land are selling STUPID well in pre-orders and clearing the 10k mark...each. There will likely be more stuff on them like tie in games. Everyone's favorite rape anime is selling well on that front at am average of 3 to 5k and seemed on top over at Amazon in terms of the sales for the manga and LN. It gets complicated though since according to him, they used an all-star VA cast which was expensive and while the series got a HUGE boost due to the controversy, it largely seemed to peter off or at least not sustain from how he described it. Now on to Slime. It's BD's are roughly the same as Rape Show...While priced 2 to 3 times as much. The manga received some MONSTER bumps putting it on 9th place for highest selling series for Calendar year 2017 to 2018 and in the preview for the anime that was posted 8 months to a year it listed a current lifetime sales of 4.5 million. That is now 7 million total copies sold. Then there's the mobile gacha style game which is pretty much printing money and numerous deals with hundreds of companies about merchandise and licensing similar to how One Piece has been used to advertise products like Shick Razors or Gucci. So yeah I'd say it's doing pretty well for itself. I'll post more details as I sift through them including how the series came to be and his more in-depth numbers.
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Bunny Senpai got brought up and he listed his thoughts on that as well.quote:First of all, people need to understand BGS is not a “new” or “astounding” or “mind-blowing” take of rom-com to Japan as there is a sea of rom-com novels, light novels, visual novels, manga, tv dramas, and movies exist that have mixed elements, “Sakuta”-like MC, along with romance and comedy. It is “done to death” in the past 20 or so years. Basically it's seen as unremarkable due to it being a formula that's been done to death over there in Asia in general which I can sort of attest to in that Rom com stuff like this I remember seeing lots of as far back as...Jesus '10 maybe earlier? The weird supernatural stuff is different, but the formula is pretty much the same.
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Okay here are the numbers for Slime.quote:Below are copied from my comment in another post but might as well do a post on this for people who are interested. chiasaur11 posted:There's been a few more deaths Yeah he mentioned that Sakuta would NOT be popular AT ALL with women in the slightest since the things he says would be HUGELY rude and would land him in the hospital so that's a demo that's no interested. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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chumbler posted:Being woken up by an oni secretary who could destroy you... From the same guy as the info. quote:I think part of it is due to Rimuru is not a self insert character. For me, after following the WN (I ignore bad writings) my impression is I would gladly have Rimuru be my boss or work in his country. Simply put, Rimuru is a nice relatable guy. He's not an HS neet or adult failure, he's not angsty/angry or nihilistic minded about how life is meaningless, he's just a normal adult man living a normal adult life that he's happy and satisfied with before dying and post death he simply wants to kick back and relax and take things easy while making a world like that for his people. Think of the series as more of an SoL Isekai that has moments of action and adventure in a great big JRPG world. Edit: This not to say there won't be grand plots and epic battles and poo poo. Just that those aren't the constant like in most other shows of the genre. Things are actually gonna pick up now with a sort of snowball effect. Think like the Ennies Lobby arc from One Piece where their actions there had repercussions on stuff later on for better or worse. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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Space Flower posted:the LN and manga were already really popular and the anime just boosted them even further. volume 1 of the LNs came back onto the charts last month and has over 100k in sales (other volumes are close to that). meanwhile, each manga volume has approaching half a million units in sales. It's very important to note that Slime is the only manga on that list that isn't a monthly and and thus released only 4 volumes for that Calendar year.
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Space Flower posted:that might be important to note, if it were true. the manga runs in a monthly shounen magazine and 6 of its volumes have been released in the survey period for the above data. poo poo. Typing on phone. Meant to say what you said. loving auto-correct. But yes, Slime is the only monthly on there. I had checked on it's release and I think it only released 4 volumes for that year period according to the info on Wikipedia for its releases. Edit: Yeah the calendar year starts in Late November according to ANN so that would only be starting with volume 6 that released in December of last year to volume 9 that released on September. Volume 10 I think got released, but I don't know if it did so for the time table to be included in this year. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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Space Flower posted:I thought you might've meant that, but Attack on Titan is monthly so I wasn't gonna assume it. I get what you want to say though, it's hitting way above its weight class. AoT is a monthly? I checked it's link on ANN and I could have sworn it was weekly. Checked, nvm. It's monthly. It's spin-off is weekly and he HAD offered it for the weekly. Jump had turned it down which I find kind of funny. Whoops.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Stand Alone Complex avoiding the pitfalls of making a sequel to popular movie sure is getting made up by every GITS project since than being awful I think it helped by it being more a series of police procedural stories with an overarching plot similar to how the OG manga was structured rather than one big movie event of sorts. With GITS, EVERYONE seems to be trying to recapture the effects of the movie when poo poo like that is drat near impossible to do.
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Fangz posted:No Shield Hero Discourse Allowed Not even to mock it and take rhino sized dumps on it? Also glad to see It's My Life on there.
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dogsicle posted:staff i guess Julias posted:If people liked and talked up Goblin Slayer, you bet people will like and talk up Shield Hero. The more I've thought about it, the more I'm 100% convinced that Crunchyroll intentionally misled people about Goblin Slayer since like Shield Hero now, don't they have some kind of stock in it? And yes, CR is one of the people footing part of the bill on Shield Hero hence their endless pimping of it.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:she totally deserved that, because she did the greatest crime imaginable in the minds of broke-brained internet misogynists: a false rape accusation I can't/couldn't let that one go. The whole slave thing was...not cool, but stuff like that gets done so often that I can sometimes stomach it, but the loli stuff made it a huge red flag. But that one...that one was just impossibly, and indefensibly hosed up. Like, why is there even a loving king like that? Like WTF?!! Or how can you even maintain ANY kind of moral high ground after sending her to him. Like yeah she was a terrible person even without the false rape thing, but loving REALLY?!
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ViggyNash posted:Oh boy has it been a minute since I've been here to talk poo poo about anime and have meaningless internet arguments about dumb anime poo poo. I definetly rec Slime, Wotakoi, Asobi Asobase, Chio's School Road, Zombie Land Saga, Hinamatsuri and everything else Ibblebibble rec'd.
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ViggyNash posted:Holy poo poo Asobi Asobase is 100% Daily Lives of High School Girls. And that ed... I love the massive contrast between the opening and the ending.
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/1075273027271585792 Semi related, but I can see the same happening to Slime if they decide to roll out the next season soon after this one ends to maintain momentum. I could definetly see it getting pushed into Spring or even Summer of 2020 to let the manga breath since Kodansha doesn't went it to nip at its heels. Edit: Top Selling Media Franchises for 2018 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-12-19/top-selling-media-franchises-in-japan-2018/.141064 SLIIIIME! doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Waffleman_ posted:Crunchyroll will be hosting dubbed episodes of Shield Hero the same day they air in Japan. That's better than what it deserves. I do have to admit, Crunchyroll knows it's market PERFECTLY well hence a previous post about the GS fiasco being a completely intentional and calculated move.
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Darth Walrus posted:How did Shield Hero get so big, anyway? I feel like the 'isekai with terrible gender politics' market should be kind of oversaturated by now. Not sure how big it actually is though. Like dogsicle said, yeah it's been going on for a while and has a bunch of spinoffs, but I don't recall it being this massive thing in any of its mediums. Got a lot of good rep some years ago, but that was some years ago. It's been getting some buzz, but along with it some revival of its more controversial aspects so who knows. Either way, the nerd incel market is eternal.
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm pretty sure the reason it seems so big right now is Crunchy's heavy marketing for it, and I think they're on the production committee, so yeah. Yeah I know about that and it loving pisses me off. Like, why not back stuff like Gridman, Zombie Land Saga, Slime, Promised Neverland, or any of the other great shows running and upcoming? Why go for the worst crap? Rhetorical question since I'm already fairly sure why, but it still infuriates me and depresses me about the fandom.
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Julias posted:It has a lot of marketing going into it, but from what I've heard over the past year, shield hero was a pretty popular light novel series and helped bolster the boom of them over the past half-decade, though idk how true those claims are. Very true. I do remember it being repped a lot some years ago, but the same could apply to several others like Moshuko Tensei, Arifureta, and others. I do remember Shield Hero moving out of the pack more, but can't recall the specifics or why. chumbler posted:Rimuru is living his best life, and helping those around him do the same. I'm so sad that we won't get to the LN4 and most definetly the LN5 stuff. And yes I 100% agree. According to my source guy, that was a MAJOR catalyst to its popularity. The LN details it better, but Rimuru is very much not a self insert. Like yes you would like to BE him, but not in any different way you'd want to be protagonist of any other show or game, but would greatly settle for just working with him in some capacity. He has likes, dislikes, doubts, virtues, and failings one of which that the manga and anime gloss over is that for a big chunk of LN's 1 and 2, he's still mentally rather condescending to his monster people. Not in a racist "these people are beneath me" but more, "they're pretty good/smart for monsters" and stays a somewhat distrustful of them for a bit. This is largely gone by LN3 and even more so in LN4 with it being COMPLETELY gone in 5. The fact that the series also has a nice easy going pace with some instances of action and adventure have also made it very appealing to people.
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Endorph posted:I mean, it's not about 'the fandom,' all the things you just listed are insanely popular, way moreso than shield hero. crunchyroll is promoting shield hero heavily because it has a stake in it. the fandom has no impact on that. Yeah I know. It just pisses me off that out of all the great shows to buy into they picked THAT one. an actual dog posted:Slime show rules actually, it's so loving nerdy and detailed and it feels luxurious Read the LN's they're all of that, but more of it including Gobta's Big Adventure.
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Endorph posted:its a lot more reliable than 'goblin slayer must be insanely popular because Anime Fans Are Bad', and 'zombieland saga is unpopular (even though it isn't) because Goblin Slayer exists' I don't think anyone is saying that, but more that it's more popular than it has any business being so likely due to the controversy that was likely cause intentionally by CR for that specific purpose. The discussion though was more about how Crunchy seems to buy into and sponsor stuff like Shield Hero when there are so many better options. In any case, With no context, here's a picture of Rimuru in a Bunny Outfit.  Behold. The REAL Bunny Senpai!
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For the popularity thing, you also need to consider places like Reddit and bootleg rip sites like Kissanime.
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Endorph posted:I mean, that's hardly the only kind of anime they've been involved in. Some random examples of other anime they've been a producer on: Fair point. It's just frustrating I guess since this coming season has some promising looking stuff. Now back to Rimuru in a Bunny Outfit. Behold. The REAL Bunny Senpai!
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Davincie posted:crunchyroll helped fund kemono friends and now season 2 will be a corporate hellhole, no coincidence there if you ask me. if you have any moral backbone at all you'd have cancelled your subscription already What's the story there?
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AnoHito posted:Kemono Friends season 1 basically ended up being insanely popular despite just about every possible disadvantage being thrown at them. They of course looked at the people who pulled off that minor miracle, and decided it was fine to fire them. And then pull a bunch of total dick moves when people asked "what the hell" like forcing the VAs to apologize for them. What the gently caress man? Was that Crunchyroll? Dude what the gently caress man? I'd be ALL OVER that poo poo to keep those guys onboard anyway I can.
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Waffleman_ posted:Crunchyroll wasn't the ones who fired them. They were just a producing party. Kadokawa is the owner of the IP, main producer, and Japanese distributor, and were the ones who fired Tatsuki and the rest of Yaoyorozu after they did a short film on their own with some of the characters. My heart briefly stopped when I read that as Kodansha(Slime's secondary producer) and got worried. But all is good now. That loving sucks though. I can kind of see their reasons(IP protection and all of that jazz), but still man. For the miracle they pulled I'd have given them a slap on the wrist just for appearance sake and called it a day.
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gently caress, double post.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:It's unlikely that the adventures of slime boy and friends would be hosed with even if that were to happen since its an adaptation. Kemeno Friends probably got screwed over because the mobile game developers wanted more control over the story. Ah ok. I hate to bring back around to this, but GS has had just about every major Anituber do a video on it and several other none anime tubers talk about it hence the whole popularity issue thing. I know WHY they discuss it, it's YouTube and it'a controversial topic so it's easy as loving hell views. But in a season with so many great shows that THAT is the one that gets latched on to offends me.
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Agronox posted:More recently it fell off the top ten entirely, which is interesting because it was #1 for a few weeks when the season began. Preistess being ranked so high offends me since she's not just bland, but such a blatant waifu wish fulfillment fantasy. Spiritus Nox posted:I mean, a show doing something GROSS AND SHOCKING to get some cheap discourse and eyeballs around it is neither a new phenomenon nor one contained to anime. It's annoying that the poo poo exists and that it gets attention that way, but there's not all that much to say about it. Not worth dwelling on, IMO, just watch and boost the stuff that's genuinely good and has real staying power. My main issue is that you have "Intellectual" channels like Wisecrack and this one other channel that seems to focus on fantasy both give it attention in...positive ways? Not watched the video's but the it has more likes than dislikes and ANY video even SLIGHTLY critical on the GS gets slammed HARD with dislikes like you wouldn't believe. It's stuff like that that bothers me. It's giving intellectual cred to garbage. Endorph posted:dont watch anitubers except for the one lady that puts out a video about an 80s magical girl show once every six months I don't watch any of them either outside of the occasional video on an anime that I do actually like. I mostly just skim to see what they offer.
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ViggyNash posted:I meant season 2 of SAO yeah. I tried to give it an honest shot and it was just blandly inoffensive at first so I didn't immediately drop it. It continued to be somewhere between dumb and bland until I gave up on it. Ok, so my source guy has posted some new information about the current tend on BD sales I'll share with you guys. These are completely final, but are the current trending numbers so if anything, they might increase. 1. Zombieland Saga - ¥96 million 2. SAO - ¥72 million 3. Tensei Slime - ¥63 million 4. Gridman - ¥62 million 5. Bunny Senpai - ¥46 million So yeah, we can likely expect another season of zombie idols and hopefully giant robot fights.
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Endorph posted:Honestly if you think the arc's way too fault in our stars I'd totally get that criticism but every time it gets brought up it's like 'lol she has AIDS' like aids is a meme that doesn't exist anymore. Like, get off FYAD for five second, what the hell. I blame Habbo Hotel and internet meme culture in general.
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Ibblebibble posted:I watched all 12 episodes of Uzamaid because I'm a weirdo and so that you don't have to. Here are my thoughts. Different Goon. Mine was about how as problematic as it is, it's not as bad for the reasons you just typed way better than I did. Like yeah unless you have tolerance for it or it's your brand of black humor(neither of which are bad things), it's a really hard sell, but ultimately it's more benign I feel since we're not meant to find her actions ok compared to other shows that sell some REALLY ugly and hosed up ideas and concepts like world building that facilitates rape and violence mostly towards women and endorses racial cleansing and MRA/Incel power fantasy trip that normalizes slavery with some creepy pedophile tones and misogyny.
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Captain Cappy posted:Your defense of Uzumaid feels very similar to how people defended Goblin Slayer by saying "the rape is very serious and isn't for shock value/fetishism". It would take some top tier writers to pull off making a "cute girls" show about a lolicon while simultaneously not pandering to lolicons themselves, and I'm not sure the fine people at Doga Kobo are quite up to that. I'm not sure anyones up to that. I think it's best to just acknowledge that we sometimes put on blinders to problematic things and it lets us enjoy the better parts of something. It's not necessary to defend the parts we ignored. Oh no I 100% agree. It's more that in Uzumaid we're very clearly NOT supposed to find Tsubame ok in any capacity while Goblin Slayer very much wants us on board the full genocide train on top of all the rape stuff which yes is very blatantly there for shock and titillation(how else due you loving explain POV rape scenes). I'm not gonna say Uzumaid is a good show, but of the two I'll definetly say it's better than Goblin Slayer. I've not read Shield Hero, but nothing of what I've heard of it fills me with anything but gross and disgusted contempt so you add that to the list. doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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