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Way to poo poo up a new thread guys.NPR Journalizard posted:Can someone explain to me why there is still the perception that the ALP is playing small target politics? Because the media think that's "balance"? The "small target" has been a media narrative way after it was abandoned as a tactic. Whether it's real or not doesn't matter, its an excuse to dismiss the opposition when the media can't be bothered doing their jobs. ALP internal politics bore them shitless, I have to read bloggers to figure out if anything important is going on. Similarly, if/when the coalition become the opposition, they'll be dismissed with a narrative of 'chaos'.
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Oct 1, 2018 20:08
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hambeet posted:*Crawls back into a bottle* Sucks to be you, guy.
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Oct 2, 2018 04:33
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Never underestimate the desperation of maniacs. On the face of it, I should expect a return of the incumbents in Victoria, but the strategy for the coalition this time is "save the furniture" and I expect attention-grabbing chaos because they won't have a lot of money to throw at any thing properly planned. That's dangerous. It could also end up being backstab-city as civil war breaks out between the coalition partners and/or presumed preference deals are thrown out at the last minute. We just don't know. NSW doesn't matter, whoever wins will always be a bastard.
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Oct 2, 2018 07:41
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Let's confuse the Victorian election issue with facts: Based on Wikipedia, we have: * 6 of 12 marginal seats are country/outer libs, of which 1 is a nat, 3 are under 3%, 2 vs green * 8 of 20 marginal seats are country/outer labor, 8 are under 3% * 3 of 4 greens/independent seats are under 3%, 1 is country ind, the others all 3 melbourne. Back in June 2017, Fairfax was convinced ALP can lose because crime. The Guardian concedes it's an election-winning issue despite the large bullshit factor. And what a surprise, former police officers are Liberal candidates. Laura Norder always appears when they run out of ideas.
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Oct 2, 2018 21:24
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bell jar posted:TIME THEFT Zero sum games, the perfect absolution for control freaks.
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Oct 3, 2018 23:13
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JBP posted:I wonder about this. They might bring in more volume, but where the ALP needs to win is in electorates full of jerks and that is probably what stays their hand every time (if we want to believe that they actually care about offshore detention being reformed). They don't care, and if they're at all competent they'll quietly bury the issue, because they don't come out of this much better than the Coalition. We already know Shorten won't dismantle Dutton's empire, why would he risk uncovering his party's complicity?
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Oct 4, 2018 03:08
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JBP posted:Didn't the libs move all that poo poo into defence documentation meaning that you can't? It hardly matters politically whether they did or didn't, both sides would regard squealing on this issue to be a preemptive attack and declare war. They're already keeping dossiers on each other as it is (and how that open secret is brushed over by the MSM is another cause for concern itself). This stuff is going to be buried for decades unless something miraculous happens.
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Oct 4, 2018 07:40
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I believe they are exempt from FOI but that probably does not protect them from a government who wants them released. I'm just reminding you that no government is likely to want to in the next 50 years or more. edit, to be exact, here is a list of exemptions: quote:The right to access documents held by government is subject to certain limitations that ensure that sensitive information, including personal, secret or national security information, is properly protected. If you request a document from an Australian Government agency or minister under the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (the FOI Act), you may not be given access to the document if it falls within one of the categories of exemptions under the FOI Act. There are two types of exemptions: documents that are exempt, and documents that are conditionally exempt and will not be released if their disclosure would be contrary to the public interest. If an agency or minister decides not to provide a document to you because the document falls within one of the exempt or conditionally exempt categories, they must explain their reasons in the notice of decision they give you. If exempt information can be deleted from part of a document, an edited copy of the document can be provided. If you do not agree with the agency's or minister's decision, you can ask for the decision to be reviewed by the agency or the Australian Information Commissioner. That's such a wide-ranging list, they could fit it in many places. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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Oct 4, 2018 07:49
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"Umm-maaa I'm telling the Premier on youuuu" he's loving regressing in public now.
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Oct 5, 2018 05:07
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Anidav posted:Please stop insulting China China is being attacked!
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Oct 5, 2018 10:32
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monkeu posted:Early education is a lefty conspiracy to teach them things like science and facts This sounds like another American import bizarrely close to their argument against tertiary education or 'brainwashing factory' as the right-wing think tanks put it. Because of course, socialisation and education are threats to a right-wing worldview, that's why home schooling is so popular with them. Clearly Devine has given up on the TE front and is attempting to win the kindy wars.
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Oct 7, 2018 06:26
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I just want to see the look on Turnbull's face when they ring him up begging for advertising donations. I bet it's the one thing he's looking forward to in the coming year.
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Oct 8, 2018 02:42
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You know someone is full of poo poo with a phrase like "traditional Labor Right values", in whose loving universe does that apply.
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Oct 8, 2018 16:21
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Count Chocula posted:The damage caused by Fukushima has been completely exaggerated. Nice meltdown. https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/1049828550910476288 What a druggo.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:29
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What about Ziplinegate?quote:The release of the Development Application (DA) is where it all gets interesting.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:54
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Mia Freeman is just an online version of Cleo ripping off women by telling them they have a problem and she has just the solution at the low low price of $600. Ignore her.
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Oct 12, 2018 05:16
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iajanus posted:Canavan condemns business emissions self-regulation to meet Paris target When the loving BCA goes, "ok, we'll do it ourselves", you aren't even a competent shill, let alone a policy maker. He's squealing because they just shut the revolving door on him. We used to derisively call this "policy on the run", now its their idea of normality.
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Oct 12, 2018 13:56
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Amoeba102 posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-13/alt-right-plans-shake-up-of-mainstream-politics-in-australia/10368972 Wait so they take Fight Club literally?! 
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Oct 13, 2018 07:11
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https://twitter.com/viveka/status/1050962596134711296 Worth watching. You'll realise so little has changed in NSW and the nation. https://twitter.com/DukeLathem/status/1049558118063984641 We don't know who did this, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Judith or she'd be droning on about how clever it is on catallaxy.
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Oct 13, 2018 07:55
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goth was old in the 80's, 90's gothdads got a bit sad.
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Oct 14, 2018 07:00
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Senior Libs are trying to own Alex Turnbull on twitter and they're doing as well as you might expect: https://twitter.com/alexbhturnbull/status/1050993394955087874
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Oct 15, 2018 08:31
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Matthew Guy must think the Federal party are doing all this on purpose.
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Oct 16, 2018 08:06
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Solemn Sloth posted:To be fair if he makes it in they can kiss goodbye any chance of making ground federally in Victoria Yeah, the Libs are basically tag-team losers in Victoria. They're already in 'save the furniture' mode as it is.
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Oct 16, 2018 08:24
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Hey millenials, check out this cool Steam game! It drops on the 20th.
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Oct 16, 2018 15:18
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BBJoey posted:ScoMo is very interesting to me. This is all armchair analysis, but originally I thought he was a conservative; now I think that just like Turnbull he’s an opportunist with no fixed ideals. However, he lacks Turnbull’s self-assuredness so you see him running off down random policy tangents to try to appeal to as many people as possible - see for example his idea for a second Australia Day for Aboriginal people, or the Israeli embassy, or now this Nuclear thing. Yeah he's always given off fake bravado but now that he's in the hot seat it looks very forced as he tries to pivot to a different image. I think you're right, he is an opportunist and has that dangerous (to himself) kind of ego that says he is his own best manager/minder/publicist. That little boat trophy might sink him, it speaks volumes about his worldview.
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Oct 17, 2018 04:31
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 Certainty, the LNP byword. ewe2 fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 07:05
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What gets me is that they never learn from previous experience, tricks like this blow back hard in favour of the victim.
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Oct 17, 2018 10:39
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Monthly electricity bill is $70ish, I spend about 18 bucks a week. Two monthly gas bill for winter has been around $200 the last couple of years, but thats heating, water and stove. It's still ridiculous for one person.
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Oct 18, 2018 18:54
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Of all the seats in the country, Wentworth seems to be the one where voters actually have to learn about preferential voting.
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Oct 20, 2018 05:28
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Anidav posted:What's with the crazy poo poo vote for Labor though? Like they just said, Shorten doesn't lose from this, the Libs do. Why were you expecting a good vote for ALP in a blue-ribbon Libs seat?
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Oct 20, 2018 09:28
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Trent Zimmerman posted:It is obviously a devastating night for the Liberal Party, and our job is to learn a message that voters in Wentworth have sent us because this is not a uniquely Wentworth message, particularly in relation to the stability and leadership that all Australians want us to provide. I think Scott Morrison has made a good start in that respect, but we really do have to show that we are learning the lesson and also the lesson that we need to be governing from the sensible centre and I know that’s very much on Scott’s mind as well. How refreshingly beige. I'm sure wearing a "centrist" costume will fool everyone.
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Oct 20, 2018 10:10
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Scomo trying to rouse the troops in the only way the Sydneys know how.
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Oct 20, 2018 10:28
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Cpt Soban posted:Where's the liberal candidate? He got a few words in before the crowd demanded SCOMO.
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Oct 20, 2018 10:32
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It’s what we believe. We believe in a fair go for those who have a go. We believe that the best form of welfare is a job* * as a company director for the industry you regulated as a politician.
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Oct 20, 2018 10:41
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https://twitter.com/kellulz/status/1053584750420492288
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Oct 20, 2018 10:53
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Anne Henderson on ABC Breakfast throwing all sorts of shade on the Libs this morning. I guess Gerard isn't allowed back.
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Oct 20, 2018 22:49
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LOL Andrew Probyn acting like a minority government is a new thing and "ooh it could be dangerous" BS. Dude. They only have to learn from Gillard's exampleahahahahaha,
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Oct 21, 2018 09:10
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Reclines Obesily posted:what a disgrace. this never would have happened if the AEC were privatised quote:The AEC never makes an error on behalf of the right side of politics. It’s in their mission statement. I think you can guess where that comes from. Also Alex Turnbull is a tool of the Chinese. No really, they believe that.
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clusterfuck posted:Maybe I haven't found the smoking gun yet but seems to me Rudd is making the big claim without the evidence to back it up. It could well be that Swan was playing both sides but it still looks like Rudd is chucking a tantrum. What does he base this claim (that Swan was AWOL during the mining tax confrontation between May and June 2010) on? It's a bit simpler than you think: Rudd is a paranoid and dictatorial non-delegator who thinks he was hard done by after everyone had had enough of his poo poo, even for a popular PM. Imagine how loving annoying you have to be to be kicked out like that. And Rudd 2.0 learnt nothing from the mistakes of Rudd 1.0, and he was dumped again. During that time no-one could get him to consult, let alone stop him from undermining everyone from Ministers down with surprise policy zig-zags. None of this was even reported until well after the fact and this damaged Gillard's leadership from the start. Although this kind of griping isn't unknown from former PM's, when Rudd rewrites history like this to big up himself and put others down, it's especially pathetic.
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