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Having ample opportunity to watch the middle-classes, your opponents, I soon came to the conclusion that you are right, perfectly right in expecting no support whatever from them. Their interest is diametrically opposed to yours, though they always will try to maintain the contrary and to make you believe in their most hearty sympathy with your fates. Their doings give them the lie. I hope to have collected more than sufficient evidence of the fact, that—be their words what they please—the middle-classes intend in reality nothing else but to enrich themselves by your labor while they can sell its produce, and to abandon you to starvation as soon as they cannot make a profit by this indirect trade in human flesh. What have they done to prove their professed good-will towards you? Have they ever paid any serious attention to your grievances? Have they done more than paying the expenses of half-a-dozen commissions of inquiry, whose voluminous reports are damned to everlasting slumber among heaps of waste paper on the shelves of the Home Office? Not they indeed, those are things they do not like to speak of—they have left it to a foreigner to inform the civilized world of the degrading situation you have to live in. AND THEN A NEW CENTRIST PARTY POPPED OUT!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpC6GlBFo0 180 days until Red White and Blue Brexit! Have you started shopping yet?  Other News  • Paul Dacre is becoming Chairman and Editor-in-Chief of Associated Newspapers today (boo) and will stand down as Editor of the Daily Mail this month (yay). • The ONS reports that life expectancy improvements in the UK have stalled for the first time since records began. Fash shits blame immigration, as always. • Labour MP Laura Smith calls for a general strike to bring down the Conservative government. Tom Watson rejects it. • Government officials warn that a no-deal Brexit could lead to electricity blackouts across Northern Ireland. • David Rutley MP is appointed as Minister of Food (a vacant office since 1958) to ensure the protection of food supplies through the Brexit process. This is fine. • Three men receive jail sentences for 'causing disruption' during an anti-fracking protest. • The Conservative Party conference is under way, and has already committed several gross GDPR violations and chucked chuck Chequers badges everywhere. https://twitter.com/MattTurner4L/status/1046397806196469760 Heart of Darkness:UKMT September 2018 - No, to the contrary. UKMT August 2018 - Win A #GoveIsland Water Bottle/The adult babies takeover is off UKMT July 2018 - It's Coming H...oh UKMT June 2018 - They frequent seldome any pastymes or sportes UKMT May 2018 - Slithers Off Rudd/Say no to hamophobia All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter) Under Western Eyes:Europol Thread Scotpol Thread Trainchat Thread Political Cartoons Thread BYOB: UKMT The Shadow Line:Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive. Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out. We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The UKMT-iest of Podcasts. Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts. Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out. Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good. 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The Secret Sharer:Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy At The Café – Malatesta The Method of Freedom – Malatesta In Praise of Idleness – Russell Political Ideals – Russell Declaration – Hardt and Negri Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo God and the State – Bakunin The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg Violence – Slavoj Zizek Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze Flat Earth News - Nick Davies Hack Attack - Nick Davies Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons UKMT CLP Commissars (thanks feedmegin)quote:I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land. 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Also for Leicester and East Midlands goons there's an event about community-led inclusive bashing of fascists at the Secular Hall this weekend.
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That's yer Nadine Dorries claiming the Tories don't exercise their free speech because they believe in free speech. https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1046332932183535616?s=19
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sebzilla posted:Pro tier thread title. It is known.
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Tory free speech is just a bunch of farty noises coming from their face holes, because they are all poo poo cunts
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Oct 1, 2018 08:36
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The podcast list reminds me, 5 Live's Brexitcast is generally a pretty good summary of what's going on in the Westminster / Brussels media bubble and has resumed recently post-recess. I realise this thread's not the biggest fan of Laura Kuenssberg but the real star is Adam Fleming and his binders.
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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1046655703547437056 The way that politics has shifted in this country in the last few years is genuinely wonderful.
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Captain Fargle posted:https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1046655703547437056 No but you see we must work with the Tories to minimise the damage they cause.
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Oct 1, 2018 08:43
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sebzilla posted:Pro tier thread title. Truly the most accurate one yet
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In a great example of false balance, the headline on BBC News right now is that the Tories want waiters to keep 100% of their tips. Presumably this is only a headline because Labour got one with their share ownership policy, which is about 5000% more of a big deal.
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I've just realised the post-brexit collapse of the pound means I'm not going to afford to keep up my New Japan World subscription so I'm going to go full #FBPE now.
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forkboy84 posted:I've just realised the post-brexit collapse of the pound means I'm not going to afford to keep up my New Japan World subscription so I'm going to go full #FBPE now. There are alternatives for the internet savvy viewer, you know
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I know, but I do like supporting a company actually doing good wrestling. Anyway, have a paragraph from Stephen Bush's daily email. quote:You don't need to be Alan Turing to decode Philip Hammond's remarkable interview with the Mail this morning in which he declares Boris Johnson will never be Prime Minister, mocks Johnson's accent, says he doesn't have the grip to run a big department let alone the government, and says his only political achievement is London's cycle hire scheme. (Which is a little unfair: everyone who knows anything about transport policy knows that the cycle hire scheme was the last achievement of Ken Livingstone.) I just enjoyed the taking away of Boris's lone political achievement.
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Oct 1, 2018 09:30
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Guess that Zoe Williams op-ed about bikes turning you into a Hitler-freak was right.
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I just bought a bunch of historical man-barbies from the UK to paint and they were surprisingly cheap because the Pound is in the gutter, and falling. Hopefully, after Brexit, I'll be able to trade some second rate turnips for miniatures when the Great Starvation begins. Keep up the good work Tories, is what I'm saying.
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Misread that as a bunch of historical man-babies from the UK and was wondering why you were looting the family crypts at stately homes.
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lilljonas posted:I just bought a bunch of historical man-barbies from the UK to paint and they were surprisingly cheap because the Pound is in the gutter, and falling. Hopefully, after Brexit, I'll be able to trade some second rate turnips for miniatures when the Great Starvation begins. Finally my 40k addiction pays off. Only the finest turnips for my family next year, none of those 'possibly radioactive' ones!
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xtothez posted:Finally my 40k addiction pays off. Only the finest turnips for my family next year, none of those 'possibly radioactive' ones! We regret to inform you the turnips are horse meat from Chernobyl. Count me among the emergency stockpilers. And to think I have always mocked doomsday preppers.
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lilljonas posted:I just bought a bunch of historical man-barbies from the UK to paint and they were surprisingly cheap because the Pound is in the gutter, and falling. Hopefully, after Brexit, I'll be able to trade some second rate turnips for miniatures when the Great Starvation begins. the sticker price will be cheap but you'll be expected to cover the costs of the armed escort
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Guavanaut posted:Misread that as a bunch of historical man-babies from the UK and was wondering why you were looting the family crypts at stately homes. As an aside, I'm very happy that Napoleon's failed Continental System will finally be in place properly, putting the plots and schemes of King George to shame. Because this time you can't just smuggle stuff to Russia and Spain.
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Comrades, idk if we've got any ROI goons in here but you're generally a good bunch for city recommendations: I'm in Dublin for a couple of days this week, is there anything particularly cool I should see or do? I enjoy pretty much everything, drink Cheers all.
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Vlex posted:We regret to inform you the turnips are horse meat from Chernobyl. prepping for a hypothetical doomsday is stupid as gently caress. this isn't hypothetical its very possible
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I do not wish to sound too cynical or conspiratorial, but this morning ITV was quite happily talking about a program they will be broadcasting tonight about the Birmingham bombers from the 70s and how they are going to name and shame some new suspects for the first time since the Birmingham 6 were released. My first thoughts were 'are they doing this because of how unworkable the NI border is in regards to Brexit and is this an attempt to start dividing people again?' Like I said, it is a massively conspiratorial thought but with how poorly May answered Marr's question and the fact that it is still causing headaches for them so close to November I wondered if they were going about it another way.
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Jose posted:prepping for a hypothetical doomsday is stupid as gently caress. this isn't hypothetical its very possible Anyone paying attention is already prepping; not hording ammo and tins because that’s pointless theatrical poo poo with no actual functional purpose. Show of hands how many people would buy a plane ticket that departs or arrives on B Day right now? How many people are delaying mortgages, weddings, visas, higher education courses or any other major expenditure? How many people are staying in a job where otherwise they wouldn’t? People are prepping like mad right now in all the ways that actually matter.
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No joke, I'm organising a workshop at my university that takes place over Brexit weekend and whether some of our European speakers will actually want to come has come up more than once. American participants I don't think will be a problem to get over, once they realise the implications of the pound tanking. Ironically and unrelatedly, the workshop is in part about demographic collapses.
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VideoGames posted:I do not wish to sound too cynical or conspiratorial, but this morning ITV was quite happily talking about a program they will be broadcasting tonight about the Birmingham bombers from the 70s and how they are going to name and shame some new suspects for the first time since the Birmingham 6 were released. Publicly "naming and shaming" a bunch of people who might possibly have done a terror (but might not (but they might (I mean, look at them, the shifty papists, they talk funny & all))), however, is the opposite of good and responsible. Bad and irresponsible, even. Also sounds like a good opportunity for shamelessly sensationalist trash infotainment with a potential "no really we're trying to be socially responsible" cover story though, so I don't think you need to get  about it.
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forkboy84 posted:I know, but I do like supporting a company actually doing good wrestling. I haven't actually considered the cost of subscriptions that are in dollars going up. loving brilliant.
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So let's see what Esther McVey promised.quote:In terms of news she announced a deal with Citizens Advice to provide support and advice on UC, and a partnership with children’s charity Barnardo’s to give care leavers work experience in their shops. Wow, slow down, I can't take all this excitement. Incidentally, didn't Barnardo's get loving raked over the coals because they were doing workfare, I forget.
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Borrovan posted:Comrades, idk if we've got any ROI goons in here but you're generally a good bunch for city recommendations: I'm in Dublin for a couple of days this week, is there anything particularly cool I should see or do? I enjoy pretty much everything, drink There used to be a bath with an almost nude woman in that you could go and look at. People called her a hoor but I thought that was unfair on account of she didn't get any choice in the matter of being there and also it doesn't do to go around calling women hoors in this day and age anyway but they moved her to the middle of some old pond somewhere so they could put up a big spike and she doesn't have her bath so she just looks like she has wild back problems 
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Also this Raab speech is uhhhh, it's something. "People say bad things will happen in No Deal, but they won't happen because they'd be bad and no one would let them happen."
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Vlex posted:No joke, I'm organising a workshop at my university that takes place over Brexit weekend and whether some of our European speakers will actually want to come has come up more than once. American participants I don't think will be a problem to get over, once they realise the implications of the pound tanking.  my lab is hosting a workshop the week before Brexit
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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chird posted:This new thread seems like an ideal time to attempt to become re-acquainted with what's going on in the motherland. When I left the UK, Gordon Brown was still prime minister. We're keeping the last bit alive for you. Hey Guavanaut, thanks for doing the OPs. They're always good and (usually) on time!
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chird posted:This new thread seems like an ideal time to attempt to become re-acquainted with what's going on in the motherland. When I left the UK, Gordon Brown was still prime minister. Presumably you left after being exonerated of being The Meatsafe Murderer?
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Borrovan posted:Comrades, idk if we've got any ROI goons in here but you're generally a good bunch for city recommendations: I'm in Dublin for a couple of days this week, is there anything particularly cool I should see or do? I enjoy pretty much everything, drink Yeah, there's an Ireland thread in the LAN forums as well but it's a little quiet. I'd recommend Kilmainham Gaol for the revolutionary history poo poo, which connects into the Irish Museum of Modern Art (IMMA). From there you could pop over to the Guinness Storehouse nearby (well worth it in recent years by all accounts), and then across the river to Collins Barracks (free National History Museum, p cool). Slightly separate is Dublin Castle and the Chester Beatty Library within, and nearby things like Trinity College, the National Gallery and the other museums. For drinks, L Mulligan's , The Cobblestone, Grogans, the Workman's Club, there's millions really. Temple Bar worth passing through but full of knobhead stag lads, George's Street up to Camden Street has a good stretch of bars. For trad music, The Cobblestone or O Donoghues probably have sessions most evenings, but I think there's a site which tells you where every session is on. If you fancy some nature, get the DART either north to Howth for a cliff walk, or south to Bray or Greystones. For food, all Irish food is shite so don't bother, but we have a shitload of great restaurants of every type. Just check out some reviews, or the terrible site lovindublin.com which is run by a hipster dickhead, for some current recommendations and avoid tourist trap places in Temple Bar. I might re-buy PMs in the next day or so, but otherwise ask for more info here or in the Ireland thread.
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If you must go to Temple Bar I'd recommend Palace Bar for drinks which is a proper boozer and has reasonable prices.
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Dominic Raab making the sensible case for restoring confidence by bombing responsibly:Graun posted:I think our confidence was knocked by the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan... actually we became too timid in terms of saying, ‘Do we get involved?’
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