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RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


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I'm going to be supporting Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders in his electoral bid for President of the United States of America



I think a crowded primary helps Bernie. It will be challenging for centrist Dems to distinguish themselves from each other while Bernie is already a known brand. The "cool" Dems will just be more like Bernie, so why not support the real deal?

The age thing is mildly disconcerting. Not because I think it has any legitimacy, but because other people seem to.

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RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


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Raskolnikov38 posted:

what is biden doing with these dogs #askquestions

considering his relationship with obama, i find the issue very pressing

RaySmuckles
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

Where did you put the dogs, Joe

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RaySmuckles
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

All dogs are good dogs, but I never really understood how "working dogs" like the Australian Shepherd, German Shepherd, Bernese Mountain Dog, Dobermans, and Boxers all became very popular indoor and pet breeds in the US.

Politicians usually all go with labs as their generic dog to show that they are an average joe.

boxers may have been bred as hunting dogs, but everything i've seen about them nowadays says that they make great family dogs. having had 2 of the lil buggers i agree. they can be a bit rambunctious, but they settle down nicely in mid-old age and are certainly no where near as troublesome as herding dogs or high energy dogs like dalmatians. plus they're super loyal, loving, and just love being around the family

so in other words, its pretty easy to understand why they are popular house pets

(i think the us kennel club has them ranked like 3 or 4 for best breeds for families)

RaySmuckles
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Boxers and Border Collies are examples of a working breed that was eventually bred to be somewhat more suitable for indoor life over time. I just wonder how people decided to start a multi-decade journey to make a working dog semi-suitable for indoor living. There are some working dog breeds that they don't even bother with and some that they have been trying for decades to breed into domestication for indoor life, but can't do it. So, why those breeds?

They've been trying for nearly 60 years with Bernese Mountain Dogs and some types of Shepherds, but even the best behaved and trained ones will eventually go stir crazy and destroy a house or bond with a person and attack anyone who tries to go near them. I don't get why someone decided to try and reverse hundreds of years of evolution in the Bernese Mountain Dog to get to get to a point where they only destroy the house and bite once a month.

And despite the constant warnings about that happening, they have been shooting up in popularity (and sadly shooting up in the number of dogs in shelters) in America for the last 10 years.

my experience with border collies is that they're loving nightmares. herding dogs need to work.

i can't speak to boxers being bred as more docile. from what i've read its a relatively new breed (like late 1800s, early 1900s) so i find it doubtful that such a transformation occurred, but i haven't seen anything to point it being true or not so i don't know. both my sisters, one for a long time, worked as vet techs and i've never heard them say anything about that

also, there is a big difference in the type of work certain dogs do. its the required intelligence of things like herding or the boundless energy of fire engine chasing that dalmatians were bred for that makes them so troublesome. perhaps hunting lends itself to a more social and agreeable nature? i dunno, i just have had boxers and read about boxers and i don't remember seeing anything about a domestication breeding regimen. from what i've read they were bred as large game hunters who's job it was to grab and hold until the hunter could catch up. that's why they have the iconic flat muzzle; it lets them breath while clamping down on something

not trying to argue too hard here, all in good fun talking about a really cool breed of dog.

edit: just watched a thing that says modern boxers are very different from the breed in its infancy, so surely there is some truth to what you were saying. i guess its weird to think that for a minority of its existence it was very different. i'm happy to say it looks like you were right. for me, they've been different for so long its almost like a different breed. since the 1890s they've been companion dogs, in the 1830s they were working dogs. there does seem to be a marked distinction between early and modern

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Border collies are great on farms and everyone I've ever met agrees it's terrible to keep one in the suburbs.

Greyhounds (ex-racers are routinely adopted out in a lot of places iirc) actually do pretty well as domestic dogs, iirc, they actually tend to be couch potatoes, aside from the tendency to occasionally see something twitch in a bush half a mile away and zoom off at a zillion miles an hour without warning.

my best friend had a rescued retired greyhound and yup, that's exactly how she was

cool as hell to see her take off after a squirrel though. they're soooooooo fast

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Oct 14, 2009


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punk rebel ecks posted:

I like this post.

me too actually

the way i explained it recently was that the dems used to have those demographics because they offered economic benefits, but steadily stopped offering that

the republicans came in and said, "well, we're not going to give you economic benefits, but neither will they. at least we'll satisfy your prejudices, which is more than the dems can even say"

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


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from what i can tell, the general consensus for the next crash is 2019/2020

its expected to be even worse than 2008 due to massive corporate debt

my presumption is that if/when the dems win in 2020 then it will definitely crash because it makes sense for it to crash then. part of the dem platform will have to include economic reforms which will spook the casino capitalists we've got now. that is, of course, if it doesn't collapse before the election

the economy is already artificially overinflated, it has to recede in order to grow back more healthy anyway. there's no way to get the kind of economic reforms this country needs while simultaneously maintaining the status quo

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Lightning Knight posted:

I really hope it waits until the end of 2019 to crash because I'm hella broke and my housing situation is not secure. If it crashes before May I'm probably boned lmao.

my wife and i are kinda hoping for a housing crash cuz we want to buy a place to live and denver is too expensive. we're even considering renting for another year or two to see if it happens since the denver market has pretty much plateaued anyway

sure, that's a lovely loving position to hold, but don't hate the player, hate the game (capitalism)

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