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This is probably #TooSoon but I wonder how much it will shake up WWE's plans. We know Roman is one of the few guys they actually do long-term planning around, and he was almost certainly taking the belt to Mania in either the main or co-main. I mean, it probably doesn't matter in the "brand is the draw" era so they could book Mania as 7 hours of people farting in the ring and still draw 70,000, but you gotta think there's a bit of scrambling with Roman out of the picture indefinitely. Cancer treatment is a long process and even if it goes well, Roman's body is gonna take a beating, and it could easily take just as long for him to get back to the physical shape he was before. I'll be shocked if he's back in the ring sometime before 2020, and that's a long time for the company to go without their presumed The Guy. Benne fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Oct 23, 2018 |
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Oct 23, 2018 05:21
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drat this is sad, shocking news. Just nothing more to say than that. Best of luck to him.
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Oct 23, 2018 05:24
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GoutPatrol posted:He will be booed the second time he comes out on the return show WWE crowd is very polarized on the subject of cancer and wheter it is good or bad. Seriously though, I feel bad for Roman Reigns and more importantly his family. I hope he makes it through this so I can boo him again, stop watching wrestling when he wins the big title, and he can go home rich as Vince let's him be
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Oct 23, 2018 05:25
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GB888 posted:I just beat Hodgkin's Lymphoma for the third time in four years after a stem-cell transplant back in April, so hearing about this earlier really hit home for me. It really sucks and I completely understood what he was talking about when it was the hardest time in his life the first time and then hearing it's come back when you thought it was gone for good. No matter how "treatable" it is, you still come out the other end a completely different person, physically. Wasn't really a Roman fan, but I hope it goes well for him. Congrats on your third victory, that is huge. Good luck to you.
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Oct 23, 2018 05:26
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Benne posted:This is probably #TooSoon but I wonder how much it will shake up WWE's plans. We know Roman is one of the few guys they actually do long-term planning around, and he was almost certainly taking the belt to Mania in either the main or co-main. I mean, it probably doesn't matter in the "brand is the draw" era so they could book Mania as 7 hours of people farting in the ring and still draw 70,000, but you gotta think there's a bit of scrambling with Roman out of the picture indefinitely. Reminder that "Dr. Death" Steve Williams won a heavyweight title 4 months before he died WHILE GOING THROUGH CHEMO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDj72xqRhcM
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Oct 23, 2018 05:28
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I'm mainly shocked that he kept the fact that he had this 11 years ago under wraps all this time. Had no idea this had been a problem for him at all.
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Oct 23, 2018 05:36
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Also I hope they learned their lesson from the last time Roman was on the shelf (when he had hernia surgery but was still on TV every week cutting those awful satellite promos) and just keep him off camera. Maybe the occasional Twitter update or Cole dropping a generic "his treatment is going well and we wish him the best," but they should save as much as possible for the return pop. New Japan is smartly keeping Hiromu radio-silent because they know he'll get the biggest Jesus pop when he comes back, and you don't want to dilute that moment.
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Oct 23, 2018 05:38
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So when Roman beats this, and continue his undefeated streak against cancer, having all the momentum of a Jesus type Ultra Face, Vince will finally turn him heel.
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Oct 23, 2018 05:42
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Benne posted:This is probably #TooSoon but I wonder how much it will shake up WWE's plans. We know Roman is one of the few guys they actually do long-term planning around, and he was almost certainly taking the belt to Mania in either the main or co-main. I mean, it probably doesn't matter in the "brand is the draw" era so they could book Mania as 7 hours of people farting in the ring and still draw 70,000, but you gotta think there's a bit of scrambling with Roman out of the picture indefinitely. Either they'll throw more money at Brock or maybe they'll actually throw big money at The Elite and Cody
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Oct 23, 2018 06:05
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That sure is some news to wake up to.  Nothing but the best to Joe and his family and loved ones!
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Benne posted:This is probably #TooSoon but I wonder how much it will shake up WWE's plans. We know Roman is one of the few guys they actually do long-term planning around, and he was almost certainly taking the belt to Mania in either the main or co-main. I mean, it probably doesn't matter in the "brand is the draw" era so they could book Mania as 7 hours of people farting in the ring and still draw 70,000, but you gotta think there's a bit of scrambling with Roman out of the picture indefinitely. They book the entire brand around him. It's gonna change EVERYTHING in terms of how Raw is booked. I think the booking surrounding him and keeping him over and no one else has done more than anything else to ruin the product. But he seems like a good guy. I wish him the best. Hoping they caught it early and I'm sure he'll get the best care possible.
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Benne posted:This is probably #TooSoon but I wonder how much it will shake up WWE's plans. We know Roman is one of the few guys they actually do long-term planning around, and he was almost certainly taking the belt to Mania in either the main or co-main. I mean, it probably doesn't matter in the "brand is the draw" era so they could book Mania as 7 hours of people farting in the ring and still draw 70,000, but you gotta think there's a bit of scrambling with Roman out of the picture indefinitely. Obviously it sucks when this happens, but WWE is at it's best when unexpected poo poo like this happens.
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Oct 23, 2018 06:31
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DLC Inc posted:I'm mainly shocked that he kept the fact that he had this 11 years ago under wraps all this time. Had no idea this had been a problem for him at all. Some ESPN or other sports reporter said he heard about it the first time when he was interviewing Calvin Johnson, his former teammate at Georgia Tech and that it kinda slipped out. The reporter got on Twitter tonight after the announcement and said he "couldn't confirm it" at the time, which I'm guessing is code for "he was very politely but firmly asked not to dig around on this point" so he never ran with it.
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Oct 23, 2018 06:43
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skaboomizzy posted:Some ESPN or other sports reporter said he heard about it the first time when he was interviewing Calvin Johnson, his former teammate at Georgia Tech and that it kinda slipped out. The reporter got on Twitter tonight after the announcement and said he "couldn't confirm it" at the time, which I'm guessing is code for "he was very politely but firmly asked not to dig around on this point" so he never ran with it. SCRUPULOUS JOURNALISM~!
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Oct 23, 2018 06:46
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College football programs are notoriously secretive with injury/illness news, constantly close off access from reporters, and threaten to blackball them for ... reporting anything (doing their jobs, in other words). Can't blame that guy for sitting on the leukemia story if he didn't have enough confidence/job security to run with it.
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Oct 23, 2018 06:50
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Jiro posted:So when Roman beats this, and continue his undefeated streak against cancer, having all the momentum of a Jesus type Ultra Face, Vince will finally turn him heel. "And I beat it all... ha, ha... thanks to going to Canada for some socialised medicine - believe that!" *crowd cheers* Vince: "Why aren't they booing this commie pinko crap?!?"
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Oct 23, 2018 06:52
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Godammit WWE, we told you we were sick of you bringing your old stars back out of retirement 
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Oct 23, 2018 07:00
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Let’s Go Roman
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Oct 23, 2018 07:01
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jesus WEP posted:Let’s Go Roman Roman rocks. 
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Oct 23, 2018 07:06
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Roman rocks.  , would also have accepted Cancer Sucks
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Oct 23, 2018 07:10
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I weighed both but decided to go the more positive option.
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Oct 23, 2018 07:12
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There's nothing more positive on this earth than "cancer sucks", excluding maybe "gently caress cancer".
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Oct 23, 2018 07:14
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gently caress cancer, by the way.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:There's nothing more positive on this earth than "cancer sucks", excluding maybe "gently caress cancer". Also true.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:gently caress cancer, by the way. gently caress cancer
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Oct 23, 2018 07:19
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So here's the question. Can WWE's booking get bad enough to turn the crowd against a guy that beat cancer twice.
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Oct 23, 2018 07:20
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Jerusalem posted:gently caress cancer Guys, I've run the numbers and they've conclusively proved that cancer is the absolute worst
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Oct 23, 2018 07:24
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VJeff posted:So here's the question. remember when they had Seth come back as heel the day after showing a mega babyface documentary on his recovery
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Oct 23, 2018 07:26
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Rarity posted:Guys, I've run the numbers and they've conclusively proved that cancer is the absolute worst If you punched cancer in the balls and it called the cops and said,"Help I'm cancer, I got punched in the balls!" then the police would respond,"Good, we'll come around and punch you in the balls some more. gently caress you, cancer."
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Oct 23, 2018 07:28
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Jerusalem posted:If you punched cancer in the balls and it called the cops and said,"Help I'm cancer, I got punched in the balls!" then the police would respond,"Good, we'll come around and punch you in the balls some more. gently caress you, cancer." This post made me giggle but also nod sagely. Thank you for that J-Ru.
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Oct 23, 2018 07:31
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Never seen the Big Dog wrestle so I guess I'm not feeling the same feels here, but I'm fairly certain WWE will be able to find a Samoan named Joe who can replace him
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Oct 23, 2018 07:40
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Not even cancer can beat the One Spear Is All It Takes
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Oct 23, 2018 07:51
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Rarity posted:Not even cancer can beat the One Spear Is All It Takes *Raw 6 weeks from now begins with a "Roman Reigns 1985-2018" graphic* oh man I just depressed myself
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Oct 23, 2018 07:59
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Benne posted:This is probably #TooSoon but I wonder how much it will shake up WWE's plans. We know Roman is one of the few guys they actually do long-term planning around, and he was almost certainly taking the belt to Mania in either the main or co-main. I mean, it probably doesn't matter in the "brand is the draw" era so they could book Mania as 7 hours of people farting in the ring and still draw 70,000, but you gotta think there's a bit of scrambling with Roman out of the picture indefinitely. Just to make sure any goodwill of this is squandered, they will have a match in Saudi Arabia for the vacated title
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Oct 23, 2018 08:06
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Cancer is the biggest monster heel. I wish nothing but the best for Joe
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Oct 23, 2018 08:18
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Having a ticking clock over his head that he's already delayed really explains a lot of his previous interview comments or tweets about his faith and not caring about what people thought about him as long as he was making money for his family. Read like arrogance and not understanding the audience at the time, but now it's like yeah dude, get it.
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Oct 23, 2018 08:55
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The good news is he'll have access to the best treatment available and he's in prime physical condition. In a somewhat similar situation back in 2012 Stiliyan Petrov who was captain of the football team I support, Aston Villa, was diagnosed with acute leukaemia. He had access to the best possible treatment and was in peak condition, and went into remission within the year. Not saying it's the same for everyone of course but it is beatable.
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Oct 23, 2018 09:33
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This owns.
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If he actually had leukemia before I'm surprised he looks as good as he does. Treatment can retard development and do a bunch of other bad, semi-permanent things. It's very difficult to predict his survival rate or exact treatment plan, because every case is different, but at his age range the survival rate is very high (north of 95%)--but best case I would say it's going to be minimum a year and a half until he is in ring shape again. Being diagnosed twice will probably affect the survival rate negatively. His treatment this time may be more intense than last time, and may involve a stem cell transplant. I have had one of these for Hodgkin's (another blood cancer). I would hope in that case that he can do an autologous transplant (his own cells), because using a donor can lead to serious problems for years and years that would preclude ever wrestling again. But this is all speculation and they may not do that at all. It's unclear, I am not Roman's doctor or a doctor at all. As far as far less important things like booking plans, they are obviously all-in on Dean vs. Seth. rovert posted:A very advanced question but I wonder even if he is technically in the clear at some point I wonder if the medication he takes subsequently is banned by WWE Wellness. Lengthening his return further than a regular person in a regular workplace. Post-chemo drugs are mostly going to be antibiotics and other things designed to bring the immune system back online. He may be given steroids on as needed, limited basis so that he has enough energy to walk around the clinic immediately after chemo ends. They don't give you Captain America Serum.
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