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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal


Happy November. As the nights draw in, the weather gets colder, fireworks crackle in the sky, and austerity hellworld continues to kill, here's a piece of prose by a nice lady named Lucy Parsons.

Lucy Parsons - To Tramps
Next winter when the cold blasts are creeping through the rents in your seedy garments, when the frost is biting your feet through the holes in your worn-out shoes, and when all wretchedness seems to have centered in and upon you, when misery has marked you for her own and life has become a burden and existence a mockery, when you have walked the streets by day and slept upon hard boards by night, and at last determine by your own hand to take your life — for you would rather go out into utter nothingness than to longer endure an existence which has become such a burden — so, perchance, you determine to dash yourself into the cold embrace of the lake rather than longer suffer thus.
But halt, before you commit this last tragic act in the drama of your simple existence. Stop! Is there nothing you can do to insure those whom you are about to orphan, against a like fate? The waves will only dash over you in mockery of your rash act; but stroll you down the avenues of the rich and look through the magnificent plate windows into their voluptuous homes, and here you will discover the very identical robbers who have despoiled you and yours.
Then let your tragedy be enacted here! Awaken them from their wanton sport at your expense! Send forth your petition and let them read it by the red glare of destruction. Thus when you cast “one long lingering look behind” you can be assured that you have spoken to these robbers in the only language which they have ever been able to understand, for they have never yet deigned to notice any petition from their slaves that they were not compelled to read by the red glare bursting from the cannons’ mouths, or that was not handed to them upon the point of the sword.
You need no organization when you make up your mind to present this kind of petition. In fact, an organization would be a detriment to you; but each of you hungry tramps who read these lines, avail yourselves of those little methods of warfare which Science has placed in the hands of the poor man, and you will become a power in this or any other land.
Learn the use of explosives!

This is inspiring prose and not incitement, and it is good and lovely, now everyone carry on with socially acceptable events like All Saints Day and Celebrate Burning A Catholic Man Day.





In The News :sax:
• From today, doctors will be able to prescribe cannabis products to patients in Britain (but not NI). It's being moved to Schedule 2 alongside diamorphine and Moffett's solution, so don't expect to get it for your headache.
• MI5 is found to have illegally spied on several human rights charities and groups.
• Security services have also have been revealed to have been allowed to use rape and torture as weapons until 2012, even domestically.
• 700,000 people march through London demanding an end to Brexit, as talks remain in deadlock over the Irish border.
• 8,000 women in Glasgow staged a walkout over council pay, leading to solidarity strikes.
• Draft legislation to extend civil partnerships to mixed-sex couples has cleared the House of Commons, but the Government says it is "not all straightforward" to remove four words from an Act.
• Theresa May failed to show any backbone by refusing to say she will stop arms sales to Saudi Arabia after their blatant murder, but apparently Britain begged them not to, which clearly worked.
• The EU's Copyright in the Digital Single Market Directive has kept all the garbage ammendments, including copyright filters and link taxes, that will be a loving disaster especially for independent non-trash journalism and open access academic journals.
• An OECD report has found that the 2010 school reforms have significantly widened inequality and entrenched disadvantage throughout a child's schooling and into adulthood, although any comment on whether Michael Gove is "a big oval office" who "loving did this on purpose" would be beyond the remit of the report.
Less than 150 days until Brexit, have you started your shopping?



The Firing Squad:
UKMT October exotic bird munch 2018: They're all hungover and want to nationalise things/Everything May does right now is going to induce Labour
UKMT September 2018 - Playing Chess While May's Still Playing Chequers/No, to the contrary.
UKMT August 2018 - Win A #GoveIsland Water Bottle/The adult babies takeover is off
UKMT July 2018 - It's Coming H...oh
UKMT June 2018 - They frequent seldome any pastymes or sportes
UKMT May 2018 - Slithers Off Rudd/Say no to hamophobia

All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter)

The Brazen Bulls:
Europol Thread
Scotpol Thread
Trainchat Thread
Political Cartoons Thread
BYOB: UKMT

The Electric Chair:
Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive.
Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out.
We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news.
Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests.
[Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative.
Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen.

The Device For Making Sure The Edges of Pages Are All Neat:
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Café – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

UKMT CLP Commissars (thanks feedmegin)

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - mfcrocker, Barry Foster, Pistol_Pete, Rarity
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cunninghame North/South - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Loughborough - feedmegin
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Rochford and Southend East - DesperateDan
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
SE Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Sheffield south east - Cast_no_shadow
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport Central - Taear
Swansea West - Borrovan
Watford - SpaceCommie

The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto and UKMT goons)

Join us on synIRC for Question Time Awfulness and Stuff
#ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix).

Now on with your regularly scheduled Hell (thanks Tijuana Bibliophile)


Lightning Knight posted:

:siren: Also after discussing it with CB and amongst ourselves, we’ve decided we won’t punish people just for mentioning pissflaps anymore as long as it doesn’t cause an extended derail. What constitutes “an extended derail” is up to interpretation. :siren:

Pissflaps is still banned from the thread tho because lol he bad.


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Brexit Meltdown starts 2 years ago here!

https://twitter.com/Pottell/status/1063057301635059717

Somebody fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Nov 15, 2018

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Tag yourself I'm #1

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Rarity posted:

Tag yourself I'm #1

I'm #3!

Welcome to November Comrades, the true month of the October Revolution.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
I'm 4 or 2.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
In truth I am #5

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


Definitely a #4. Cool places might be stretching it though

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

I missed the vegetarian chat at the end of the last thread mostly and I'm a lifelong veggie.

In Canada I went to A&W (a fast food place - they also make root beer which is sold in lots of places, you may have had it) and they have a new veggie burger called the "beyond meat" burger. My wife and I had it, and after a bite she said "I think we've been given meat by mistake". We checked with the kitchen and they were sure it was the veggie burger. We finished eating and my wife was still not sure (I have never actually had a beef burger so dunno what they're like). To make sure, we went back to another one and yep... it was the veggie burger. So yeah, they've really nailed it. My wife was totally convinced and I can't compare but thought it was a really tasty burger.

Apparently they're coming to the UK soon to be sold in supermarkets. Looking forward to it.

Also I'm #3.

superLINUS
Sep 28, 2005

"The real tragedy happened long before I came along"
The lump of gammon we call the Security Minister just said “accured” when he meant “accrued” on BBC Breakfast and I know it’s a small thing but I long for the arrival of the Wall.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
It's political correctness gone mad, Stu

quote:

Police should focus on catching thieves and violent criminals and not incidents where no offence has been committed, a senior officer has said.

Chief Constable Sara Thornton said forces are too stretched to deal with "deserving" issues, such as logging gender-based hate incidents.

Note that she's not saying logging gender-based hate crimes is "deserving" here - she's saying that giving Glinner the Old Bill equivalent of a sixer for his transphobia is the reason why your granny got mugged.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Rarity posted:

Tag yourself I'm #1

A bit of #4 and a bit of #6.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

superLINUS posted:

The lump of gammon we call the Security Minister just said “accured” when he meant “accrued” on BBC Breakfast and I know it’s a small thing but I long for the arrival of the Wall.
"Minister of State for Security and Economic Crime" sounds like a person who is in favour of both Security and Economic Crime, and because it's the Tories I'm going to assume this is the actual case.

This is how the UK is going to end the drug war, right? (For certain people.)
Not with the bang of actual quality controls and legislation, but with the whimper of we don't have the spare manpower to deal with the cannabis farm next door that's running 16 400W HPS lamps off of a single 15A lighting ring with a nail through the breaker, but please let us know if the roof catches fire again. Press 1 to leave detailed feedback of your call experience.

Rarity posted:

Tag yourself I'm #1
I'm #1 and #4 and glad this thread seems to have proved my theorem about the overlap between spicy memes and venting on Facebook that you feel like a fuckup today.

RubberJohnny
Apr 22, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

It's political correctness gone mad, Stu


Note that she's not saying logging gender-based hate crimes is "deserving" here - she's saying that giving Glinner the Old Bill equivalent of a sixer for his transphobia is the reason why your granny got mugged.

This seems to be the governments new line to distract from austerity cuts to the police.

There was a story about how crime was up massively a few weeks ago on the radio and the only spokesman on the BBC didn't even mention the cuts or the budgets but made out as if "it's those drat SJWs stopping us from investigating the murders", which was so bizarre it doesn't pass the sniff test.

Now it feels like them trialling that line out.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
britain

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Rarity posted:

Tag yourself I'm #1

number 3, though the popularity peaked in 2008

i used to get weird PMs about my posts

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Nooooooooooooooooo

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1057882444551127040?s=19

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Manic_Misanthrope posted:

Definitely a #4. Cool places might be stretching it though

:same:

WhatEvil posted:

I missed the vegetarian chat at the end of the last thread mostly and I'm a lifelong veggie.

In Canada I went to A&W (a fast food place - they also make root beer which is sold in lots of places, you may have had it) and they have a new veggie burger called the "beyond meat" burger. My wife and I had it, and after a bite she said "I think we've been given meat by mistake". We checked with the kitchen and they were sure it was the veggie burger. We finished eating and my wife was still not sure (I have never actually had a beef burger so dunno what they're like). To make sure, we went back to another one and yep... it was the veggie burger. So yeah, they've really nailed it. My wife was totally convinced and I can't compare but thought it was a really tasty burger.

Apparently they're coming to the UK soon to be sold in supermarkets. Looking forward to it.

Also I'm #3.

I've been more and more interested in going full vegetarian as I've grown older. Do you have any cook books you particularly like?

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



bessantj posted:

:same:


I've been more and more interested in going full vegetarian as I've grown older. Do you have any cook books you particularly like?

The Complete Vegetarian Cookbook has been good for me as I'm trying new things.

Though usually you can cook any meal simply by taking away the meat or replacing it with quorn/tofu/seitan/etc

Just make loads of indian and med food like ur mate ratty

Remember though, full veggie means you can't drink a lot of alcoholic drinks, including most wines :O

Luxury Tent Carpet
Feb 13, 2005

I hunted the Orphan of Kos and all I got was this stupid t-shirt

:rip: to getting shitfaced before the flight with the lads

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:




just have to do it on the train enroute to the airport

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



Great, the only tolerable part of airports

Hey fellow UKMTers, I had a horrible loving moment this morning. I did myself an injury in the dumbest way possible: I have strained a muscle in my arm while getting out of bed.

I don't even know how but it's real uncomfortable.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Nov 1, 2018

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Rarity posted:

Tag yourself I'm #1

Im definitely 5

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

https://twitter.com/AngryBadger22/status/1057891143457951744?s=20

This, but unironically.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

This is probably a good thing

Galaspar
Aug 20, 2006
Will reign this way again
November has got off to a flying start. A colleague messaged me to ask if I've heard of a 'Gordan Petersen' who, like, totally owned some TV interviewer lady. He's off to see him speak tonight, and has promised full details tomorrow. Lucky me!

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Just lol if you can afford air travel in 2018 you boojie fucks.

Galaspar posted:

November has got off to a flying start. A colleague messaged me to ask if I've heard of a 'Gordan Petersen' who, like, totally owned some TV interviewer lady. He's off to see him speak tonight, and has promised full details tomorrow. Lucky me!

He's already a big fan, he's just playing it cool cause he's trying to reel you in.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



Great, what are people going to blame when they do a racism on a plane now?

Ratjaculation posted:

The Complete Vegetarian Cookbook has been good for me as I'm trying new things.

Though usually you can cook any meal simply by taking away the meat or replacing it with quorn/tofu/seitan/etc

Just make loads of indian and med food like ur mate ratty

Remember though, full veggie means you can't drink a lot of alcoholic drinks, including most wines :O

Thanks I'll check that out.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Galaspar posted:

November has got off to a flying start. A colleague messaged me to ask if I've heard of a 'Gordan Petersen' who, like, totally owned some TV interviewer lady. He's off to see him speak tonight, and has promised full details tomorrow. Lucky me!

I always remember these two stories

https://twitter.com/sdbcraig/status/1015580916519821312

https://twitter.com/Sturgeons_Law/status/1053063942510010368

then lmao

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

forkboy84 posted:

Great, the only tolerable part of airports

Hey fellow UKMTers, I had a horrible loving moment this morning. I did myself an injury in the dumbest way possible: I have strained a muscle in my arm while getting out of bed.

I don't even know how but it's real uncomfortable.

Every now and then i pull a muscle in my leg while I'm lying in bed doing absolutely nothing

It's absolute agony and i have to bite my pillow for 10 mins just to avoid waking my partner up (but then my cat hears my muffled cries and comes in meowing his face off, so everyone's awake anyway)

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

god bless pets for their ability to see you having a problem and always opting to make the situation worse

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Galaspar posted:

November has got off to a flying start. A colleague messaged me to ask if I've heard of a 'Gordan Petersen' who, like, totally owned some TV interviewer lady. He's off to see him speak tonight, and has promised full details tomorrow. Lucky me!

Find that video where Peterson freely admits that drinking a glass of cider (Canadian cider, so Apple juice) gave him existential terror for a month and then just laugh whenever your friend suggests that this is a person who has their poo poo together enough to opine about the totality of human existence.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Rarity posted:

Just lol if you can afford air travel in 2018 you boojie fucks.

Air travel is ludicrously cheap though? Far too cheap from an environmental perspective imo. Idea it's cheaper to fly to London than train to London is real dumb, especially when the plane is 2 and a half hours including getting to the airport and going through security and the train is not much shy of 12 hours.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
All of you veggie-eaters need to try some proper Chinese-Asian veggie food. It fascinating what you can make out of tofu, tofu skins and yam.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

bessantj posted:

:same:


I've been more and more interested in going full vegetarian as I've grown older. Do you have any cook books you particularly like?

Back when I was veggie my mum got me a cookbook called Take One Veg and it had a few good ones in there but especially I’d recommend the beetroot and Camembert strata, it’s fantasric and easy. Not for vegans though, obviously.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


namesake posted:

Find that video where Peterson freely admits that drinking a glass of cider (Canadian cider, so Apple juice) gave him existential terror for a month and then just laugh whenever your friend suggests that this is a person who has their poo poo together enough to opine about the totality of human existence.

Also this (second one):

https://twitter.com/BritishGQ/status/1057234945427628032

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

bessantj posted:

I've been more and more interested in going full vegetarian as I've grown older. Do you have any cook books you particularly like?

I like the Hamlyn "All Colour" 200 [x] meals cookbooks. There's one which is "easy vegetarian" and another one "veggie feasts", I think there may be other veggie ones too? The recipes are mostly quite simple and not too faffy (but not like on the level of telling you how to make cheese on toast). Also "Vegetarian" magazine can be good but look through the contents before buying and make sure there are recipes you'll like.

I've got loads of other recommendations of course but I think those are the ones I've actually made the highest proportion of dishes / total recipes from. One good general recommendation is to get the Vegetarian Flavour Bible. Tells you what ingredients go with what (including unusual combos like mushroom and rhubarb) and it's useful for doing stuff like buying a mixed veg box (I get them delivered from Abel and Cole) and coming up with recipe ideas to use various veg up.

So for example I'll get a box with fennel in, so I look in the flavour book and see what it goes well with, find a few things I have (whether other veg, herbs/spices etc.) then google recipes. So if I have say, fennel, peppers, carrots I'll google "recipe fennel peppers carrots" and see what comes up and make something I find or make a variation based on those ideas.

The BBC recipes site (is it Good Food?) comes up really often and so does AllRecipes I think.

e:

Here we go:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hamlyn-All...mlyn+all+colour - Easy vegetarian
https://www.amazon.co.uk/200-Veggie...mlyn+all+colour - Veggie feasts

The "feasts" ones are a bit more effort but still fairly easy generally.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Nov 1, 2018

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

namesake posted:

Find that video where Peterson freely admits that drinking a glass of cider (Canadian cider, so Apple juice) gave him existential terror for a month and then just laugh whenever your friend suggests that this is a person who has their poo poo together enough to opine about the totality of human existence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc7DN-noAc&t=10728s

timestamped here but the 1-2 min segment starts at 2:58:48 (how do people watch these fuckin things in full jesus christ)

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
I don't know what to think about Labour's budget amendment.

People in the income brackets they're proposing can definitely afford to pay more, but it's depressing if a left Labour government's big idea for addressing taxation is ultimately just hammering income tax rather than any of the actual sources of serious wealth and inequality in this country.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
good start to reducing air travel as is completely necessary for the future.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

peanut- posted:

I don't know what to think about Labour's budget amendment.

People in the income brackets they're proposing can definitely afford to pay more, but it's depressing if a left Labour government's big idea for addressing taxation is ultimately just hammering income tax rather than any of the actual sources of serious wealth and inequality in this country.

And corporation tax.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The best part about Gordon Peterson (other than calling him that from now on) is how wrong he is about Marx to the degree that anyone who has casually read Marx or anyone commenting on Marx within the past 150 years can own him without effort.

The second best part was when he got schooled by David ben Atar.

Did he ever do the debate with Zizek? I can't find it anywhere.

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