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escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

And that's a couple levels above Dexter :eyepop:

Which is still somehow above Weeds

dreffen posted:

I haven’t been up on the walking dead for a good long while but Dexter had some duuuuumb poo poo so I find that hard to top.

Walking Dead has reached new levels of terrible. They lost Carl, Rick and Maggie, did a 6 year time skip, and now Judith is a main character and a little Annie Oakley type.

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escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

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I just loaded up Libby and grabbed Milch's memoir from the library. Just listening to the loving prologue... and I'm hooked. Definitely look into this, y'all. I'll have a lot to discuss with regard to this memoir, upon completion. Thanks for the recommendation, fawning deference

Honestly, those who are curious should check the prologue

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escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

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is there any chance I can get someone to read this book along with me? It is unbelievable. I anticipate not just a Deadwood rewatch but probably a whole Milch binge including Hill Street, NYPD, Luck, and other items.

escape artist fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jul 11, 2023

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

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I am halfway through and he's going in depth into Deadwood. Just got an amazing anecdote about how Molly Parker's decision to tell Milch that she felt Alma's acceptance of Ellsworth's proposal was not adequately built to, and as a result, the scene where she has a monologue to her dead husband arose from it. There's some amazing stuff in there too, discussion of his addiction, mental illness, writing process. All of you all are going to have to read this. It's incredible.



edit: Wow, didn't know he made a movie in 2014 called The Money, which was essentially King Lear with the Murdoch family. The seeds of Succession being planted??

escape artist fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jul 12, 2023

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

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fawning deference posted:

Maybe this person doesn't know that the new movie got released already? Milch is not in a condition to continue working and there has been absolutely zero rumors or buzz around MORE Deadwood. It's over.

It's interesting to read about how when shooting the film, he was not able to work in the same way at all, both for reasons of budget constraints and health constraints. For those that don't know, on the set, Milch would be there with the actors and constantly talk to them and make discoveries about scenes and character motivation and he was kind of famous for re-writing entire scenes on the spot or entire new sub-plots the day before the morning of a shoot, etc. With the movie it was a static process, and as much as I enjoyed the film, it didn't quite feel as natural and alive as the show.

He also mentions how with Luck, Michael Mann took control of the process entirely (his terms for being brought on to direct). Milch was not allowed on the set, and Milch really regretted that because to him, playing on scenes with actors on set and driving modifications to the script based on what feels natural is an integral part of his writing life-cycle.

Thanks for that book recommendation. It was loving incredible. I'm watching the Lost Israel two-part NYPD Blue episode that he mentions in Chapter four. What a loving chapter that was. The audiobook is narrated by Milch so hearing his raw emotion when talking about that was so powerful.

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escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

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fawning deference posted:

EB was truly a favorite of mine. As mentioned above, a perfect Shakespearean character. He's both pitiful/sympathetic and disdainful. Full of misery but powerless to change it, so he simply takes what he can get in a world which shits all over him. He's a conniving snake yet everyone sees right through him.

In the book Milch says that Sanderson had a habit of beating himself up before scenes (figuratively speaking) and worked that into EB's character :)

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